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Colonial and post-colonial theory

 
 
Kit-Cat Club
20:22 / 13.08.03
I have been spending a lot of time lately reading pamphlets covering the early activities of the Dutch and English East and West India Companies, and I feel as if I ought to be boning up on the theory. I want to, at any rate - my brain seems to be waking after its customary summer stupor. Obviously I'm aware of Orientalism, but can anyone recommend other key texts and writers, or point me towards a good introduction? I am more up for colonial theory than post-colonial theory, but my mill is large enough for a good deal of grist.

Anything on early modern empires would also be very welcome.

Thank you!
 
 
unheimlich manoeuvre
11:53 / 14.08.03
Hello KKC.
i only studied anthropology for a year but as it is the "bastard child of colonialism" i can probably get away with recommending a couple of books.
Invention of Primitive Society by Adam Kuper. A good look at European thought and the constructing of the "other".
Invention of Tradition by Eric Hobsbawn, specifically the chapter on the Invention of tradition in colonial africa by T. Ranger.
and Anthropology and the Colonial Encounter by Talal Asad, a decent seventies Marxist critique.
PM me if you want more, as I have my reading list before me...
 
 
grant
17:01 / 14.08.03
My favorite (and the only title I remember) is Gloria Anzaldua's Borderlands. It's sort of about establishing the mestizo as a figure of potency, but it's got lots of thoughts about colonization and cross-cultural fertilizations in it.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
19:16 / 14.08.03
Thank you both. I actually have that Hobsbawm collection somewhere at home - must see if I can dig it out next time I'm down there.

Any more for any more?
 
 
nedrichards is confused
22:29 / 14.08.03
I really like 'Ornamentalism' by David Cannadine published a couple of years back. Very well written for history and with a pretty interesting theme.
 
 
illmatic
07:30 / 15.08.03
I did post-colonial film and literature at Uni - and while I can't remember the names of any of the theory books, some of the literature has been the best stuff I've ever read. I know you've already read Derek Harriot's The Schooner Flight (but any excuse to re-read this a good thing, right?), other standouts were Jean Rhys's Wide Sargasso Sea, and JM Cotezee's Foe.

You might want to cast post-colonial eye over some of these, and more stuff when I remember it - there was a big extract from the new intro to Orientialsim in The Guardian about two weeks ago.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
10:48 / 15.08.03
Do you reckon it's worth upgrading to the new copy then?

nedrichards - I am glad to hear that the Cannadine book is good, have been picking it up and looking at in bookshops for several years but ahve never actually read it. I think it might be a bit late for my purposes, but it does look like an interesting read.
 
 
illmatic
11:50 / 15.08.03
No - i don't think the book has been fully revised, it was just a new intro, you'll be able to get it (the paper) out the library. It was intersting though - very damning critque of the current US administration. Also made the point that a common criticism of Western media, is that "they"(ie. the mulitidue of different arab peoples, "just don't want democracy", when it's our goverments that keep these regimes in power (ie. Saudi, Kuwait).
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
23:56 / 16.08.03
more when i'm less deadbrained, but a few names, people i like...(these are post-con theory, check out Third Text as well, i can chuck you some for general reading...)

Homi K. Bhabha, Gayatri Chakravorty Spivak, Sarat Marahaj, Fritz Fanon, esp. Black Skin, White Masks and Studies in a Dying Colonialism.(there's an Isaac Julien film of F's life by the same name, featuring Stuart Hall, that's well worth watching.), Trin T Minh-Ha. Wole Soyinka rocks.

Check INIVA out next time yr in london/give 'em a ring as, altho' they *do* focus on vis.art, they have an excellent library/archive/resource centre for theory stuff and very helpful/knowledgeable staff who'd def. be able to point you in the right direction....

This college site has a good bunch of names...

looks useful...
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
15:43 / 17.08.03
oh, and second the recc for Borderlands, it's great...

haven't read him for ages but Sugata Bose might well be useful/interesteing. He's an economic historian (modern colonial), maybe a bit late, but looks at economic rels *between* south Asian nations during occupation as well as their rel to the empire powers

Good bengali boy too.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
15:08 / 18.08.03
Oh, sounds interesting - thanks, old thing, will keep my eyes peeled. Economic relations between the various Asian kingdoms/islands is something which is touched on in the material I look at (and was hugely affected by European intervention - at least, that's the impression I get, but perhaps the Chinese would also have had an effect? Seems likely, but the Chinese influence on such matters is almost completely ignored by British and, I suspect, Dutch historians as it belongs to 'the rest of the world' - very stupid and very annoying).

I will investigate the links and come back with yet more half-baked question, I imagine... cheers chaps!
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
18:47 / 18.08.03
that's pretty much SB's project, a) to see how writing a history of empire/pan-indian ocean nation relations works from the other side and b) particularly in rel to siting these within the historical/continuing trades between local/pre-existing powers...

certainly my v.ill-informed POV its more there's a definite gap in euro-empire history/ political&cultural expidiency rather than it being a case of there being 'nothing to report'...
 
 
grant
14:29 / 20.08.03
Seems likely, but the Chinese influence on such matters is almost completely ignored by British and, I suspect, Dutch historians as it belongs to 'the rest of the world' - very stupid and very annoying

Well, actually I've been writing a bit about this over here. Non-academic, nutshell/humorous stuff, mainly. But Chinese history is kind of interesting.
My understanding: around the mid-1400s, lightning struck Beijing. The emperor at the time was very expansionist, so when he got deposed (since the lightning was a sign that t'ien ming, the mandate of heaven, had been withdrawn), his policies were reversed, and China became very isolationist. It was a trend that only deepened for the next 450 years, until the British brought the action to China during the buildup to the first Opium War.
Even earlier, in the 1200s, you'll notice that relatively cosmopolitan Kublai Khan didn't send emissaries to the Turks or the Indians or the Italians... he had *them* send legates to *him*. "Chung-Hua" means "China" but it also means "Middle Kingdom," as in "the center of the world." That's the general attitude.

From the Ming Dynasty (1300s) to the Qing Dynasty (ends 1911), all the "invaders" or "colonized" who affect Chinese culture are different ethnic groups within China's borders (primarily the Han and the Manchus).

China's influence, as I understand, was really only experienced in border regions, like Korea or Tibet, and occasional wars with Japan over who owned what island. The minority cultures *within* China are a different matter, though -- that's where you'll find the closest thing to Western colonial discourse.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
15:02 / 20.08.03
I have come across several references to Chinese people in the Spice Islands at the time of the East India Company's rivalry with the VOC though, so they were around (in fact several Chinese servants were killed in the Amboyna incident - interesting that they were servants of the English rather than factors in their own right, though). I'd be interested in seeing what their relationship with the islanders in Java, the Moluccas etc. was like. Probably quite hard to find out, though.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
19:50 / 20.08.03
at the risk of stating the obvious, SOAS?
 
 
grant
19:51 / 20.08.03
Hmm.

This is just theorizing on my part, so definitely check around on this, but...

...well, the Opium Wars started because of some rather strict limits on foreign trade within China. Like, at the start of the first one, traders were only allowed to set up shop in Guangzhou, from what I understand. (I don't know exactly what this means, but I get a general impression of "not here, buddy," if you know what I mean.)

...and in contemporary Southeast Asia, the Chinese are known as "the Jews of Asia," because they tend to be widespread and because they tend to hit the same trades and professions as Jews in America -- merchants, doctors, that sort of thing.

So my theory, which I've never read anywhere else, is that maybe Chinese import/exporters set up shop elsewhere (like Singapore?) to get foreign goods into the homeland. But they probably weren't interested in expanding influence or annexing foreign ports the way that, say, Belgium was in the Congo. More of a loose mercantile diaspora.

I dunno, the idea seems a little weird to me, now that I look it over.

Oh, and it occurs to me that European historians might make the classic mistake of calling any East Asian (I really want to use the politically incorrect "Oriental" here, but that's a rant for another time)... any Asian with epicanthic folds "Chinese." Whether or not they're actually from China, or have a culture that resembles Chinese. Like, Javanese or Philippinos look vaguely Chinese, but Bahasa and Tagalog have squat in common with Mandarin. That's a big "if," but seems within the realm of possibility. Having a servant who took the job because he was interested in getting the hell out of a rather claustrophobic and xenophobic country, that seems more likely.
 
 
John Brown
04:52 / 08.09.03
Frantz Fanon, The Wretched of the Earth and Black Skin, White Masks

George Frederickson, White Supremacy

Winthrop Jordan, White over Black

CLR James, The Black Jacobins

Robin Blackburn, The Overthrow of Colonial Slavery

LS Stavrianos, Global Rift

Lenin's Imperialism is probably worth a read.

And I encourage everyone to read Barrington Moore's Social Origins of Dictatorship and Democracy as background for understanding the conditions in the metropole at the time that European colonialism was starting and ending.

Some of those may only be tangetnial to what you're looking for, but they will be informative and helpful.
 
  
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