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You Think Too Much and other catchphrases that set my teeth on edge

 
  

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HCE
20:23 / 03.07.03
You Think Too Much: as opposed to what? I don't drool enough?
Get Over It: there is no statute of limitations on some things
You're Hot Like Whoah: shut up
 
 
pomegranate
20:39 / 03.07.03
in a similar vein: "can't you just relax and enjoy the _____? not everything has to be read into." this has been said to me when i point out misogyny (or even just androcentrism) in movies, songs, books, etc.
boooooooo.
 
 
Char Aina
20:43 / 03.07.03
wow.

but can you after spotting the inherent mysoginy then just relax and enjoy the gunporn/lasershow? or do you find it spoiled?

i know what you mean, though. it is irritating being told you are a killjoy for mentioning that others have killed your joy.

i also get told i think too much.
fuck that.

i mean, i do, but still.
fuck that.
 
 
pomegranate
20:47 / 03.07.03
well the thing is, people are like, "it's just fun," or "just enjoy it," whatever. but it's not fun to me if it offends me; i can't enjoy it if it's pissing me off. it's not like i'm enjoying it, then suddenly get attacked by feminist thought, which i then allow to spoil my fun. i don't like it in the first place.
 
 
pomegranate
20:50 / 03.07.03
also, i'd like to say that "you think too much" usually just means "you think too much for me to feel comfortable not thinking much at all and yr making me feel insecure, could you please stop it now."
 
 
that
20:54 / 03.07.03
Sometimes 'you think too much' just means 'give yourself a break, because you're going round in circles and hurting yourself, and you bloody know that already, if you're honest'. Not often, but sometimes.
 
 
Char Aina
20:57 / 03.07.03
i've only ever heard it to mean the 'stop thinking its only hurting your head' one.
 
 
Mazarine
21:23 / 03.07.03
"my bad." grrr.
 
 
lolita nation
21:51 / 03.07.03
damn, y'all. get better friends. I had no idea people actuallly said stuff like that outside of Dawson's Creek or some shit.
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
22:05 / 03.07.03
You should be a lawyer.



AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
 
 
gingerbop
22:11 / 03.07.03
You should be a lawyer
Mu: Are you my mother?
 
 
HCE
23:04 / 03.07.03
ACK! I'd forgotten all about 'You should be a lawyer.'

Another one: "you _______ really well, for somebody of your ________(age/gender/education)"

Are insulting me or complimenting me? Pick one.
 
 
Char Aina
23:04 / 03.07.03
everyone gets that, then?
 
 
gingerbop
23:32 / 03.07.03
Probably.

"Innit"
It's been said before, but until recently had never heard its use when not after a question. And that *really* doesnt work over msn, causing much confusion.

Alongside the lawyer one-
"You could go to oxford or cambridge.... but you're going to Napier/the Circus/insert-something-that-may-actually-make-me-happy-here."

"If you put all the time you spend on that ruddy computer into work/homework, you could really get somewhere in life."
 
 
Saint Keggers
23:47 / 03.07.03
y'all.

That word just sets my nerves on edge and my teeth a grinding.
 
 
Jub
06:31 / 04.07.03
Okay bit thread rotty but still:
Kegboy you just reminded me about having "Ye" before old pub names, which means the same as modern Y'all, but people put it on pubs instead of "the" and I really have no idea why, other than that it rhymes. But so do a lot of things so, hmm.

Erm, the phrase I most hate at the moment is "do you know what I mean?" All of the time.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
06:44 / 04.07.03
I think "ye" does also mean "the", but anyway ...

Thanks to Tania of BB4 fame, any varation on

"I'm being truthful here/telling you the truth/being totally honest/that's me being honest with you."

NO.
YOU.
AREN'T.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
07:40 / 04.07.03
When on reception at eight in the bastard morning after three hours of sleep, and being used to working in the afternoons I answer the phone "good afternoon" before correcting myself, the thing I least like to hear is a patronising chuckle and the words "wishful thinking!"

JUST FUCK OFF

It's not original, it's not funny, and yes, funnily enough I do wish it was 7pm and I no longer had to answer the phone to giggling cretins like you. I have made a mistake due to tiredness. Instead of fucking laughing at it, why don't you just ignore it and we'll both get off the phone quicker?

God I'm bad in the mornings ...
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
09:07 / 04.07.03
Jub: 'Ye' for 'the' occurs because of a confusion of 'y' with the old English letter thorn (pr. 'th') - they are very similar, especially in a black letter script. People have been making this subsitution for centuries - I see a lot of 'ye' for 'the' in my early and mid seventeenth-century pamphlets. So there is a reason; but that's no excuse for using it in 'Ye Cotswolde Tea Shoppe' (ugh) or 'Ye Olde Craft Fayre' (double ugh).
 
 
Spaniel
09:24 / 04.07.03
Now, here's a really bad one.

"I'm not being x, but y"

Where

x=racist/homophobic etc...
y=a racist/homophobic etc... statement.
 
 
Cosmicjamas
09:26 / 04.07.03
"Wake up and smell the coffee" Aaargh! I.Don't.Like.Coffee. So someone telling me/others to inhale the vile aroma is just...offensive.
 
 
Jub
09:33 / 04.07.03
'Ye Cotswolde Tea Shoppe' (ugh) or 'Ye Olde Craft Fayre' (double ugh). - true; is horrid.

Ta muchly for the clarification!
 
 
Cat Chant
09:54 / 04.07.03
"You're taking this too seriously"/"You do take things awfully seriously, don't you?"

I don't mind too much from people who don't know me, but from people who do, well, surely they must have noticed that taking-things-seriously is pretty much coterminous with my personality, so it's like saying "There is no point to you." (It also boggles my mind when people who I know damn well devote more time to slash than I do tell me I take slash too seriously: why do they bother to do this stuff practically full-time if they don't think it matters? I don't understaaaaaand.)
 
 
Whisky Priestess
10:00 / 04.07.03
KCC - I thought it was thorn-related but couldn't remember how. I think I left all my clever at home.

But re Jub's objection, doesn't that mean that the spelling of Ye Olde Tourist Trappe is correct, it's just the pronunciation (as ye not the) that's wrong?

Gets on my nerves when restaurants/pubs offer "traditional country fayre" when there isn't a pig-in-a-poke, Aunt Sally stall or home-made jam competition in sight - just nasty pseudo-rustic pubfood.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
10:31 / 04.07.03
'Have you ever been to a Harvester before?'

I feel a thread coming on, devoted to slagging off awful British culinary institutions.

On 'ye' - the OED has it as a 'graphic variant' of 'the', so I imagine that in modern English both the spelling and the pronunciation are incorrect. In any case 'y' is not the same letter as 'thorn' and it is a mistake, just such a common one that it probably counts as received usage (in much the same way that 'disinterested' is gradually coming to mean 'uninterested', and good God that makes me cross). Lord knows how Old Noll et al pronounced it... I expect that as the spelling fell out of usage, so did the associated pronunciation; and subsequently when the spelling began to be revived by pseudo-antiquarians they used the pronunciation which seemed logical to them, busy old fools.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
11:50 / 04.07.03
"Huggles!"

When used without a trace of irony or humour, especially when used by people to attempt to comfort or reassure someone they barely know who has suffered a serious misfortune. Increasingly common on Barbelith, and I don't know how we reached this terrible state of affairs.

"I've just been diagnosed with terminal brain-fuck: can I have some huggles?"


"The love of my life just left me for one of my parents, my other parent just died, I've been fired for crying all day and my dog's showing symptoms of terminal brain-fuck."
"That's terrible - have some huggles!"

Huggles will not make it all okay.
 
 
Lurid Archive
12:01 / 04.07.03
Sounds like some grumpypot needs schnoogles.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
12:21 / 04.07.03
KCC - In any case 'y' is not the same letter as thorn

OK, that much I do remember from my year of studying Anglo-Saxon. (Not much else, but hey ...) But I don't think thorn is on the average keyboard any more so Y is the nearest approximation, isn't it? I'm not saying it's morally or linguistically right (the same thing is happening to "enervated" btw - it is being used to mean energised these days) - just that it's part of the inevitable corruption, or evolution, of the language.

I agree, however, that Ye is a nasty precious little pseudoarchaism and it can come to no good. And can I add my vote for tokenistic hugglings/happy birthdays/commiseration threads? I can understand the motives of the person who asks for them but not why people post on the thread with nothing at all interesting or constructive to say. If you just want to say "Happy Birthday" or I'm sorry about that", why not PM them? It's more private, less boring for others and less eaty of precioussss bandwidth.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
12:40 / 04.07.03
Sorry, I didn't mean to come across as being quite as snarky as I sounded there. Yeah, 'y' would be the closest visual equivalent; but in a situation in which you needed to transcribe thorn, wouldn't you use either a special symbol (I don't know whether Word has one or not, but there must be some program out there with one) or '[th]e' (much as you would when expanding a manuscript contraction) - ? I don't know, but it seems more likely somehow. I mean, if the original document said 'ye', then you'd write that, obviously, but...

I can't think of a situation in which you'd need to write 'ye' in that sense in modern English - unless, of course, you were mocking pretentious Cotswold tea shoppes &c., in which case it would be perfectly right and proper. Or I suppose indulging in C17 historical fiction.

Enervated - reminds me of Geo. Bush senior commenting on the 'enormity' of his taking office as President - accurate, but not quite what he actually meant to convey...

I was the recipient of a good luck thread recently (which I really appreciated), so I should declare an interest, but I don't think they're all that bad. They make people feel better, they don't do any harm, most of them don't take up that much bandwidth, and you can ignore them if you object to them. (All this is up to a point, of course, but then aren't most things?)
 
 
that
13:01 / 04.07.03
I'm guilty of the huggles one, I'm sure...but then, I'm just downright guilty. I used to say 'chill out', quite seriously, until someone threatened to do me serious physical damage if I didn't stop. Strangely, however, the phrase 'take a chill pill' makes me want to bite people.
 
 
unheimlich manoeuvre
13:17 / 04.07.03
people who talk in cliches induce irrational anger in me.
"look before you leap." "ze who hesitates is lost." "a stitch in time saves nine." "a rolling stone gathers no moss." etc...

also i have a spot of bother with people who rephrase there arguments, but generally say the same thing, when i disagree with them.
 
 
The Falcon
13:31 / 04.07.03
I think runce (sorry, Psi-Alan Treharne-Bruce) had this in the Hate! thread, but using weird or bizarre as a culture-applied pejorative fucks me right off.

'Did you like it?'
'Mmmmmmm, it was a bit weird, y'know.'
'No. No, I don't actually. Why don't you die?'
 
 
Saveloy
15:26 / 04.07.03
"Actually, you might be able to help..."

You're getting a billion calls every second, and have 90 zillion problems to sort out. The phone rings:

Them: "Hello, is Barry there?"

You: [thinks: 'Yes! Thank f*ck it's for someone else!']

"Sorry, Barry's at lunch, I'll get him to call you back."

[thinks: 'Phew, I might actually be able to finish this job that I started 6 hours ago']

Them: "Okay. Actually, you might be able to help..."

You: "AAARGH! I KILL YOU! Ooh, sorry, did I just say that out loud?"

Grrrr....
 
 
Smoothly
15:35 / 04.07.03
You are missing a great opportunity to lose Barry his job, Sav.

For me, people who use the progressive present tense, when the simple presnt will do, is enough to make my fillings pop out.
I'm really hating that.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
16:28 / 04.07.03
Beck when I was a barmaid, especially at the end of a shift: (I have a naturally pensive, NOT miserable face when it's at rest, btw)

"Cheer up luv!"

"It may never happen!"

"Give us a smile!"

I could. Or I could fucking glass you, you grinning pissed-up moron.
 
  

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