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Some questions and statements of a somewhat selfish and foolish (but hopeful) nature.

 
  

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Seth
17:16 / 02.07.03
Or you could summon the spirit of America as it is: a come as you are party. Saves from imposing our own subjective judgements as to what constitutes *good* and *evil.*
 
 
Unicornius
02:38 / 03.07.03
Use Bruce Springsteen's "Born in the USA" as background music.
 
 
Salamander
03:11 / 03.07.03
Be sure whoever gets ridden by this demon has an american flag for a cloak and an uncle sam top hat for a hat!
 
 
Deadwings
05:27 / 03.07.03
I was thinking stars and stripes painted across the body if it looks like someone's going to get pulled in. This is all coming together very last minute... which is as I intended it, and as I work best.
 
 
Quantum
07:58 / 03.07.03
you could summon the spirit of America as it is set
Yeah, I reckon calling the Zeitgeist is the best way to go about it. Less soul flaying.
Of course, that's what is likely to come anyway IMO, just dressed as a demon if that's what you're expecting.

([the ghost of] Tim Leary slipping acid into GWB's coffee- ROFL! That would be wicked, but on the other hand how could you tell if he was tripping? I have my suspicions that he's ripped to the tits most of the time anyway- that or he's an android)
 
 
Seth
16:22 / 03.07.03
It seems much more interesting to be less prescriptive, more inquisitive. Much of this thread seems taken with the idea that the Spirit of America will conform to our expectations, and it's likely that that will be the case: you'll probably get an entity that feels comfortable manifesting in the form that you're allowing.

Why not set aside preconceptions and allow for a ritual wide enough to allow the spirit to make itself known, rather than calling down what you feel you already know. Who's to say that the Spirit of America isn't some kind of Native American deity? Take precautions of course, either way...
 
 
Kiss My Apocalips
17:25 / 03.07.03
Jeez. Spare me the demonology. Why donĀ“t you just conjure up the spirit of Homer Simpson and call it a day?
 
 
Seth
17:55 / 03.07.03
There's a great ritual for that involving hallucinogenic chili, cooked with peppers grown by monks from an insane asylum...
 
 
Deadwings
18:09 / 03.07.03
D'oh.
 
 
Spyder Todd 2008
23:31 / 03.07.03
Now that you mention it, an asylum does rather resemble a monastary.
 
 
Seth
16:52 / 04.07.03
Or a school. Or prison.

Threadrotpolicego!
 
 
Deadwings
17:34 / 04.07.03
*Kicks the dead topic* Newp. Not movin'.
 
 
cusm
17:49 / 04.07.03
What about the obvious? America has some iconography built in that is perfectly suitable. Uncle Sam is a perfect avatar of America. And I'm sure if you wanted a darker aspect you could get the Uncle Sam that buggers hs nephew when mom's away too, if you really wanted. Then there's the Bald Eagle, patron animal spirit of the USA. There's all the totem work you need right there. You could also call Lady Liberty (even though she's French) if you wanted a god/goddess duality with Uncle Sam. Add in some guns, money, porn and hanburgers and you're on your way.

But really, what I think you want is less the spirit of America itsels so much as particular aspects of it. In which case, just do that specificly. If you want the demon of corrupt politics, dress in a business suit and tie, cover yourself in oil and blood, and kick some darkies around and I think you'll find what you're looking for.

At the very least, that'll make for some far mroe intersting filmmaking
 
 
Spyder Todd 2008
22:56 / 04.07.03
Now, there's a thought. What would happen if you spilled the blood of a bald eagle inside an american flag on an altar made from a drawing of that pyamid and eye thing from the dollar bill on the head of George Washington in Mount Rushmore on the 4th of July?
 
 
Deadwings
01:12 / 05.07.03
You'd get arrested.
 
 
Deadwings
12:36 / 05.07.03
Results:

...It wouldn't let me do it. I mean it really, really wouldn't. I attempted to bleed as a catalyst, and wound up tearing a fairly respectable hole in my right hand. But it wouldn't give me any blood. And I got minorly spanked for trying; shock of the attempt rendered me spiritually numb for about an hour. Still, there was some minor persistent effect... the focus of the ritual, a small and ancient bird's skull (Not a bald eagle, but you get the idea) is now all but indestructible. Ah well.

Better luck meddling in that which man was not meant to know next time, I guess.
 
 
Spyder Todd 2008
16:44 / 05.07.03
How about the rest of your victims? Any of them have any interesting occurances?
 
 
Deadwings
22:48 / 05.07.03
They couldn't bleed either. I tried.
 
  

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