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Shameful Musical Confessions

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06:20 / 06.06.03

Not the first CD you ever bought

but I still like Mel & Kim!!! I danced wholeheartedly to 'respectable' the other day, despite knowing how truly tacky it was. I have evil friends who are encouraging my supressed tacky musical leanings...

Strange Machine Vs The Virus with Shoes

06:49 / 06.06.03

The Mel and Kim dance in the video of respectable is the second worse dance I have seen in the world of pop (the first being Robson and Jerome: -Up on the roof). They look like a pair of demented chickens.

Danzig: He Pitys the Fool!

09:49 / 06.06.03

I have distinct pleasure of owning 'Velveteen' by Transvision Vamp, and Salt n Pepa's first album. And to make it worse, Jennifer Ellison has just covered Transvision Vamp, and I LIKE IT! I sing it all day at work. Oh the shame!

Regrettable Juvenilia

15:54 / 06.06.03

Why shame. Explain shame why. Explain why the shame. Shame not self-evident is. Shame explain. Explain. As asked by person starting thread, twice now, explain. Explain the shame.

20:37 / 06.06.03

I like Morrissey, and I feel I should not because the scorn of Flyboy makes it hard for me to sleep at night.

20:55 / 06.06.03

wait, i'm supposed to feel ashamed for liking the lost boys soundtrack??

i don't really count nostalgic things as guilty pleasures, altho' by most accounts i should (phil collins, another bad creation, *milli vanilli*!!!).
if i liked it before i lost my virginity, well then whatever. (says me.)

ONLY NICE THINGS

22:01 / 06.06.03

Well, we don't know whether you are supposed to feel ashamed about owning the Lost Boys soundtrack. We don't know because you haven't told us. You haven't suggested that there could be anything shameful about it, only told us why you are not ashamed. Which is a step closer to the mark than some of the more half-witteed responses so far, but only inasmuch as a firm stride up Charing Cross Road towards Centre Point is a step closer to fucking Newfoundland. Because once again the magic decerebration lasers that patrol the Spectacle have descended to make the fire bad and the tree pretty.

All hail the sacred laser!

Let's try another example.

T.A.T.U, conveniently enough. There are literally millions of reasons why one should be deeply suspicious of T.A.T.U. They are so manufactured as to make Avril Lavigne look like Leonard Cohen (it's a personal fantasy). They lez up at the drop of a lenscap. They did fucking Eurovision. They are, as is observed elsewhere, peddling a highly streamlined version of lesbianism aimed at filthboys. And they manifestly cannot sing for toffee.

And yet. And yet there is something so sugar-fuelled and glorious about the whole ludicrous thing. Partly because it may encourage young people to become lesbians, which is always good, natch, but more generally because they are *so damn pop*. They're like essence of pop. I saw them on Top of the Pops, and in the face of everyone else's carefully-choreographed routines they just ran about the stage holding hands. Same thing at Eurovision. And even though they were off-key and aspirated, they were doing the whole thing with huge, on-the-verge-of-corpsing grins, because they realised that this was *all* they needed to do. Because they are pop.

Also, "All the Things she Said" fucking rocks. And the tiny black-haired one has the most insane hair ever. It's the size of her entire body.

Regrettable Juvenilia

22:46 / 08.06.03

I certainly don't think anyone should be ashamed of liking Morrisey. Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood...

23:33 / 08.06.03

All I said was 'bring me the head of Flyboy'...

Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!

00:24 / 09.06.03

Yes, but why - in the face of all this moz-shaped debate - is Flyboy still incapable of spelling the man's name?

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

23:38 / 28.12.04

I've been getting quite into Nightwish recently.

I should just end it all now, really, shouldn't I?

12:32 / 30.12.04

I should just end it all now, really, shouldn't I?

There is no shame in listening to Nightwish.

Unless it's the execrable male singer's voice that's what does it for you? He should definitely be ashamed.

~L

I'm Rick Jones, bitch

16:52 / 30.12.04

I used to sort of like Biffy Clyro. Actually it might have been to impress a girl? Dear world, I am sorry. And shamed.

I was going to put here that I'm ashamed of liking "Love is a Battlefield" more than 99.9% of music ever, but I'm really not ashamed at all.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

21:30 / 30.12.04

Unless it's the execrable male singer's voice that's what does it for you?

Rest assured, it isn't.

Regrettable Juvenilia

22:07 / 30.12.04

Sincerely, liking 'Love Is A Battlefield' is something to be proud of, something to consider putting on your CV and using as your opening line of conversation at parties. I'm serious about this.

20:12 / 01.01.05

I haven't listened to it in a few years or anything, but I dare say I'm still a fan of Killdozer's Little Baby Buntin'.

In many ways Killdozer were a despicable band, clever US college kids who made four or five albums broadly dealing with Marxism, love's darker side and a view of blue collar American life that was halfway between H Bosch and a hypothetical Matt Groening with terrible DT's, set to music that made The Swans seem disco, The Birthday Party look dashing, and Big Black sound like the yearbook's Most Likely To Succeed.

For example, they used to sing that,

" Now they say,
Here in the hospital,
That I've been drinking my own faeces,
And dancing in my own piss.
Not true, not true, people,
( Though I do take a nip from the toilet, )
It's just that, you see,
Mother never gave me a kiss. "

But to be totally honest it's all like that. There's a song about the lyricist's father, who's been badly wounded in an industrial accident, and " is left with a face that looks like chewed bubblegum. " But " his looks don't bother him, now in the least, " because " with a sack on his head, he's still a sexual beast. "

They made I think about two or three more of these, and then they all went off to be accountants or some such.

So I can't really picture a lot of public demand if they were to reform, they were a certain strand of American music in the late Eighties taken about as far as it would go, very much past the point of shifting units or anything, or being the kind of thing, at all, that you'd set the CD for on a romantic evening, but, I don't know, I suppose I still miss them, those crazy guys.

XXII:X:II = XXX

04:16 / 03.01.05

Admittedly I have some bizarre, eclectic and unpopular preferences in music, but I'm mostly OK with the sorts of music I keep readily available to me. Certainly my CD collection contains little I'd loathe to admit owning; a quick scan of it really only brought a few names to my attention: Jimmie's Chicken Shack (one-hit wonder: "High," big around summer of '96), The Shamen (very likely who Morrison had in mind when he wrote in "The Filth" about early '90's techno appealing to the clinically braindead) and Will Smith (who I listen to more out of nostalgia for who he used to be rather than what he does now).

And I still have a soft spot in my heart for Weird Al Yankovic. It should come as little surprise that I am often a not terribly closeted goofball on the comedic wavelength of people like late '70's Steve Martin and Triumph the Insult Comic Dog. The really embarassing part of that area of my sense of humor is when it chuckles at The Capitol Steps. Eek.

/+,

11:18 / 03.01.05

I’m not quite following you, Haus. In your TATU example, you give moral/spiritual reasons why you shouldn’t like them, then you give aesthetic/whatever reasons why you should. The way I read it, you seem to feel that the latter outweighs the former. And if so, you don’t really feel that you shouldn’t like them. So, just to clarify, do you think the reasons not to like TATU outweigh the reasons to like them? And you still like them in spite of this?

Personally, there’s nothing I like that I feel I shouldn’t like. I respond to music the way I respond. However, I am all too affected by other people’s perceptions, sadly. Hence I may feel that I shouldn’t like something, but only because someone else has put the thought in my head.

I like Pink Floyd. Some people here would think there’s something wrong with that. I don’t. I like Oasis. And yes, I like Marillion (and what the fuck is wrong with that, anyway). There are always naysayers, of course. I’m sure everyone here likes Outkast, but there are some sick individuals out there who don’t. There are even some people out there who don’t like the Wildhearts. It’s a funny old world.

But onto proper confessions, the following are things I like but which a large number of people might think I shouldn’t (Sorry Haus, but that’s the closest I’ve got, call me retarded if you must):

Vanessa Carlton – “just a day, just an ordinary day, just trying to get by; just a boy, just an ordinary boy, but he was looking to the sky”. Pure romantic idealism, unabashedly cliched and earnest. I like it. Because I’m a romantic idealist myself.

“Nu Flow” by Big Brovaz – great song, deep groove, great harmonies, great attitude, now you tell me why I shouldn’t like this, fuckers!

“Thank U” by Alanis Morrisette – “Thank u India, thank u terror, than u disillusionment, thank u frailty, thank u consequence, thank u thank u silence” It’s as human and confused as I am. And it’s a song about leaving a lot of bullshit behind and realising what’s important. Cracking stuff.

I could go on. At the end of the day, if I like something, it’s because I think I should like it. I don’t possess this particular schizm you’re referring to, I’m afraid.

I'm Rick Jones, bitch

15:12 / 03.01.05

“Nu Flow” by Big Brovaz – great song, deep groove, great harmonies, great attitude, now you tell me why I shouldn’t like this, fuckers!

The groove's as deep as a fucking rockpool, is why. And because the "attitude" is "PLEASE BUY OUR RECORD OR WE GO BACK TO WORKING AT POUND STRETCHER (ALSO WE REALLY WANT TO BE OUTKAST)". It's catchy like syphilis for the mind.

Sorry dude but you asked.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

16:06 / 03.01.05

The Shamen (very likely who Morrison had in mind when he wrote in "The Filth" about early '90's techno appealing to the clinically braindead)

You must be talking about the later Shamen stuff. "They May Be Right..." and "In Gorbachev We Trust" are both fucking stonking albums. (Particularly the latter's version of Mar Twain's "War Prayer", which I still lidten to now and which still gives me goosebumps. And the same album's "Jesus Loves Amerika", which was fantastic). Admittedly, from about "En:Tact" on, it was all a bit poo. Then Will died and the rest was shitstory.

I'm Rick Jones, bitch

18:32 / 03.01.05

But but but The Shamen are fucking class. And so are the Utah Saints.

I am Invisible now

07:55 / 06.01.05

Abba. I adore "waterloo". Laugh if you like

And T.a.t.u, they did a semi-decent cover of "how soon is now"...but...."not gonna get us" is waht hooked me.

Sean the frumious Bandersnatch

21:39 / 06.01.05

When I was in high school, I was deeply ashamed of the fact that I listened to classical music. I'm over that now (the shame, I mean), but I do have another deep secret.

Rammstein.

Not as bad as Christina Agulerra (sp?), sure, but I do feel embarrased when people find out that I own every Rammstein cd ever put out. Oh, well.

01:54 / 07.01.05

I like Pink Floyd, Tubular Bells and some of the early Genesis stuff (Mama a particular favourite).

But my favourite - Shampoo, I love Shampoo.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

06:40 / 07.01.05

Who are these people who make you feel ashamed to kneel beneath the mighty force that is Rammstein?
Tell me.
I'll burn them for you.

Goodness Gracious Meme

19:01 / 09.01.05

Reading over the thread, Stoats, Strawberry Switchblade certainly don't qualify.

I'll play though: I think I have one: Placebo.

Have been listening to the two Placebo albums I own, and feeling I'm enjoying them more than they warrant. And, as somone who can't remember lyrics that have genuinely changed my life, 80% of Placebo songs are engraved on my memory.

Do I really have to explain why this is embarassing? Really:

If you insist:

*very average music. A bit of bouncy guitar, but there are many better examples, but mainly its the:

*the tiredest cliches of drugs 'n 'weird' sex='ing genius *ever* as performed by an odd-looking dwarf.

(though when I saw them in about 94, i had one of those 'boy or girl? aaahhh moments. but that doesn't really excuse my love of the songs ten years later)

*appalling lyrics. Cliche upon teenaged angsty cliche. Awful rhymes:
"eyeholes in a paper bag/
greatest lay I ever had"

or

"woman, man or modern monkey
Just another happy junkie"
???

"I'm unclean, a libertine
And every time you vent your spleen,
I seem to lose the power of speech,
Your slipping slowly from my reach.
You grow me like an evergreen,
You never see the lonely me at all"

But, still. I love.

*wanders off, whistling '36 Degrees, into the Witness Protection Programme*

Goodness Gracious Meme

19:20 / 09.01.05

In addition, I *know* that having posted this will have several rl responses involving much pointing and laughing/jeering.

07:27 / 10.01.05

I really like Limp Bizkit's "Significant Other."

The first time I heard "Nookie" I thought some weird industrial band had broken Top 40. The band is talented. That sad sack they have fronting the band is not. (that's my complaint about most bands actually)

This shames me because a portion of the money I paid for the album went to Fred Durst.

I also like Linkin Park. This shames me beacuse at my age I should be beyond cheap teen-angst histrionics. But I'm not, and I don't care what you think! You're just trying to keep me down! You don't know what it's like being Me! Nobody Loves me!

21:32 / 16.01.05

This isn't threadrotty enough to warrant a separate thread (i think), but I have to confess;

I've always hated Jane's Addiction, Sonic Youth and the Pixies. I only ever listened to them and pretended to like them when I was a teenager to, ahem, "score with chicks."

Whew! Load off my chest. Thanks, Barbechums.

Brigade du jour

00:46 / 17.01.05

Good for you, Panic! Have my big waves of empathy. But yeah, I for one think it belongs in a new thread. If you start it, I'll post in it.

01:39 / 17.01.05

That's pathetic.

A

01:57 / 17.01.05

Now you'll never score again!

19:32 / 17.01.05

I'm with you, Panic. Three cheers for not liking Jane's Addiction, Sonic Youth and the Pixies!

*In the distance, a wolf howls. Crickets are heard, chirping their lovesongs. Silence prevails*

Oh well.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

14:49 / 07.02.05

I...

I...

(sob)

I bought a Cradle of Filth album this week.

And...

I really liked it.

(bawls uncontrollably)

...it wouldn't help if I said I only originally bought it cos it had a Sisters of Mercy cover on it, would it?

...thought not.

(Within twleve hours of buying the thing, God had struck me deaf in one ear. I've already been punished, okay?)

19:14 / 07.02.05

I'll play though: I think I have one: Placebo.

i love Placebo, too. i also love Kid Rock and Bon Jovi. of course, i'm from New Jersey, so maybe the last one is more understandable.

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