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First look at the new Punisher...

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02:11 / 22.06.03

*cough* Michael Keaton *cough* cough*

17:41 / 23.06.03

Simple Teaser Trailer before THE HULK.

Voice over explaining why it's not revenge but Punishment then pan up from Weapons to that photo of him in the T-shirt...

ONLY NICE THINGS

20:05 / 23.06.03

They don't deserve punishment....they deserve GUNISHMENT.

20:33 / 23.06.03

Why aren't the teeth of the skull part of the bandolier? is that too hard to film? I think not, I think not.

Is it more like the T-shirt with the built-in teeth is more marketable than one that needs a special gunbelt to go with it? Seems likely. Seems likely.

02:41 / 24.06.03

I caught the teaser trailer ahead of The Hulk yesterday. It's approximately as Mr. Tricks described, with the additional observation that Thomas Jane's voice is awfully soft and sensitive sounding for a grizzled "former marine and Vietnam war veteran" on an anger-fueled, ultraviolent vengeance bender.

We're The Great Old Ones Now

08:53 / 24.06.03

[snt]

This is going to be one of the great cinematic experiences of all time.

In the Mongolian translation.

It's the Cantonese subtitles that'll do it.

10:01 / 24.06.03

I can see I'm going to be the lone voice in the wilderness here...

I think he looks quite good in the part. He reminds me of Bradstreet's Punisher (

), which is my favourite visual version. In that I don't think the Punisher should like some Schwarznegger clone. I want him to look human.

Also, I like the slight alteration made to the costume. For much the same reason. I don't like the idea of the Punisher making this superhero outfit for himself. In the website you see the paint still dripping off the T-Shirt. I think this suits the character a lot more, the notion of him just heading out onto the streets having scrawled a death's head accross this old shirt. He becomes something more like Itto Ogami (Lone Wolf and Cub) and less like Spiderman.

Hopefully it'll be a bit like Point Blank, movie with Lee Marvin (remade with Mel Gibson as Payback), only with a comic-book tone to it. I think it has a lot of potential.

18:37 / 24.06.03

They should've cast Edward Norton...

17:31 / 09.10.03

*bump*

New Pic of Punisher as Hawkeye...

05:10 / 15.10.03

this is more like it:

http://images.comicbookresources.com/c2f/punisher_jane2.jpg

05:24 / 15.10.03

Oh hell yeah.

06:58 / 15.10.03

Kevin Nash has a part in this movie which isn't probably a great thing, I think I might have read that Hogan has a small part in it too.

17:04 / 06.11.03

The new trailer has been released.

I dunno. Something about it looks no less corny and poorly handled than the Dolph Lundgren picture. Here's to hoping I'm wrong.

20:50 / 21.02.04

17:35 / 26.02.04

Actually this looks worser than the Dolph Lungren picture. Hell, the guy who plays Frank looks my age! And I'm in my early twenties!

03:43 / 27.02.04

still looks like a TV movie, but can be good; I don't know. it's Travolta that kills it for me. but I've read a rumour about the origin that gives a nice and darker spin to the character. if only Jane would look grimmer...

and no, the 80's version with Lundgreen is not that bad.

Jack The Bodiless

11:33 / 27.02.04

Dude, it's nearly as bad as Stallone's Cobra, and it's actually worse than Arnie's Commando.

12:43 / 27.02.04

I actually thought Dolph Lundgren was ok in the last film, he at least looked appropriately homicidal. Whereas this guy... seems a little bit better with his hair dyed black, but does anyone really see him as unstoppable killing machine ? Hmm ?

Still, at least they've had the sense to get G Ennnis in on the script... I guess all watch it on vid.

Incidentally, ( and I should probably start a new thread for this, I know ) but Keanu ?Reeves as J Constantine... Nurse, nurse, where's my bloody medication

14:19 / 27.02.04

I'm sitting on the fence for this one. I've heard things from Heinsleigh and Arad and Jane that give it potential. I'd liked Travolta as the bad guy in Face Off and the pictures I've seen (with the exception the pre-production stills) look cool. On the other hand the trailer that they released made it seem like just another guy-wants-revenge-for-killing-his-family movie. We will see. I just hope it's more Garth Ennis and less Carl Potts.

...and no the Dolph Lundren movie wasn't that bad, Marvel has plausibly done worse during it's earlier film experiences.

15:40 / 27.02.04

You say, "just another guy-wants-revenge-for-killing-his-family movie", like its a bad thing.

19:10 / 17.04.04

Anyone seen this yet? I'm trying to decide if I want to plunk my money down for another half-ass comic book film.

The NY Times review seemed compelling enough but I'm still hearing mixed reviews.

20:48 / 17.04.04

It was about as good as Daredevil. So u decide for yourself based on that. Personally? Daredevil was some cold shiiiiiiiiiate. So u can imagine how I feel about the 14 motherfukin' hard earned dollars put down to watch "Punisher" yesterday. That was not Punisher. That was some nancy poser. The fucking Saturday morning cartoon version of Punisher (re: 90s Sipdey cartoon)was more entertaining and true to form than this abhorration.

Fuck, Marvel movies are just hit an' miss, huh? For every X-Men.... u get this crap. As far as I'm concerned the only good Marvel movies have been X-Men, X2, Blade, Blade II, and Spider-Man. This, clearly not falling among the aforementioned, can eat my ass.

13:48 / 19.04.04

Where do you live that you spent $14 for a movie? Even here in NYC, the height of expensivity, it's only like $10.50.

Anyone else see this movie? 80% of the reviews I'm reading say it ain't too good...

20:51 / 19.04.04

It was pretty bad. Not quite on the order of the Lundgren film but damn, damn close. It should've been of the unforgiving anti-hero quality that was Payback at the very least.

Instead it was a shock for shock's sake, cornballish journey through 2-dimensional vigilante heros, a flat, barely compelling tragedy that never pulled through, with symbolism so brutal and bludgeoning as the main character that it could've been written on falling anvils and been more subtle (Ex: Punisher icon made out of burning cars, cheesy lines ["Look for me in the newspaper every day" "Where in the newspaper?" *cold stare with shit delivery* "The obituaries"] and really insulting soap-opera crescendos of music).

Honestly, don't waste your money.

miss wonderstarr

17:58 / 11.05.04

Saw this in Boston on Sunday. About twenty minutes in I realised it was pretty dreadful: around the point where the soon-to-die wife gushes something like "We're not lucky, Frank. We're blessed."

About twenty minutes before the end I realised it was one of the worst films I'd ever seen. Nobody involved seemed to know what the hell they were doing. By this point we'd had the Memphis singing assassin -- one of the most surreal scenes I've ever witnessed in a thriller, with the other characters staring dumbly as he sings some country number then gets up and walks out -- and the cartoonish slapstick sadism of the sub-Drago Russian assassin. The hardware Castle's rigged up in his apartment during the quite promising earlier scene is wrecked in seconds and reduced to Wile E. Coyote ACME technology. There's a horribly ill-judged sequence with a kooky pierced kid, a lovable fat kid and a sultry chicklette all living down the corridor from Frank and inviting him to say grace after dinner. Despite barely knowing him, the pierced kook goes through torture to save Frank's skin and tells him "you're family". The tone goes from maudlin slush to graphic sadism to Laurel and Hardy-level violence within the space of 10 minutes. The Punisher's whole apartment block is torn to pieces, but still characters walk through the doors and shut them for privacy, when the walls and floor are full of holes. And then the climax, where Travolta seems utterly lost and admits his bafflement: allow me to repeat my comments from another board.

Includes John Travolta murdering his wife by taking her to a red light area.
He: This is a place for whores. You'll fit in!
She: Why are you doing this?
He: [trademark puzzled pout] I don't know.
[He flings her over a bridge. Train screams down track and crushes her as she struggles to crawl off the rails. He is then tied to the back of a car and dragged through a parking lot as vehicles around him explode in the shape of a skull.]

Can someone please explain why the fuck the Punisher unloaded a fire hydrant every time he broke into the woman's car?

20:04 / 11.05.04

Because he's not Frank Castle. He's Iago with a temper.

Jack The Bodiless

11:48 / 13.05.04

...but you've just made it sound brilliant. Was that what you meant to do? I don't think it was. Hmmm...

15:57 / 22.05.04

So basicly, Thomas James would get his ass kicked by Dolph Lungren?

19:49 / 22.05.04

He'd even get his ass kicked by Lil Orphan Annie!

20:49 / 30.05.04

Dude, it's nearly as bad as Stallone's Cobra, and it's actually worse than Arnie's Commando.

How dare you. Cobra was one of the greatest movies ever made.

Crime Is The Disease. Meet The Cure.

13:07 / 19.06.04

For anyone interested the origional is on tonight

The Punisher (Film)

Time - 22:55 - 00:30 (1 hour and 35 minutes long)

When - Saturday 19th June on five

Action adventure in which Marvel Comics' vigilante hero, created by Gerry Conway, comes to celluloid life. An ex-cop whose wife and child were brutally murdered by gangsters takes revenge on the criminal underworld by coldly and relentlessly executing mobsters.

Director: Mark Goldblatt
Starring: Dolph Lundgren, Lou Gossett Jr, Jeroen Krabbe, Kim Miyori, Nancy Everhard, Brian Rooney
(Subtitles, Stereo, 1990, 2 Star)

15:11 / 19.06.04

Yes, Dolph's version was shot in Sydney, Australia filling in for New York. You can see Telecom phones and CES signs in the background, and the big fight is in Coney Island at Luna Park, with ninjas coming down the wooden slides. You can actually see part of the Harbour Bridge in one shot...
Not as jarring as that last shot from Matrix: Revolutions, where they're sitting in the Botanical Gardens and some fucker's photoshopped out the bridge. At least Power Rangers kept Centerpoint Tower and our monorail in when they passed us off as Angel Grove...
I didn't mind the new Punisher, it just didn't have enough Rambo UUUUUUURRRRRGGGGHHHHH! Dolph had UUUUURRRRGGGGHHHH! But he just shot up some poker machines with his UUUURRGGHH. And there really should have been a grenade-in-the-mouth scene somewhere in there.
Blame the studio for the mess that was Dolph's film. They panicked and didn't want anything like the comic, so no costume...

ONLY NICE THINGS

22:12 / 02.10.04

I saw this on the plane back from Boston last night (this morning?), and it seemed to be incredibly confused about its aims. It starts off by playing it straight, in the style of the po-faced Punisher as the character was originally conceived, and the crowbarring in of the slapstick elements from the Ennis run - the Russian, and I assume the ridiculous singing assassin, not to mention of course the flatmates. This left it as an uneasy, in fact an incoherent, conbination of by-the-numbers revenge thriller and knockabout comedy, without any attempt to integrate the two - one minute Castle is a killer, the next a goof, and it isn't even down to the situation, but rather I suspect who last edited each scene.

Also the absence of Gertrude Stein is an absolute travesty.

Jack The Bodiless

11:20 / 04.10.04

Was she the golden age Punisher?

ONLY NICE THINGS

12:25 / 04.10.04

Quite the reverse. Gertrude Stein versus the Punisher, the Jerry Ordway one-off, is my favourite two-fisted tale of FRank Castle's WAR ON CRIME.

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