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New X Men #140

 
  

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CameronStewart
02:48 / 26.04.03
You guys are nerds.
 
 
CameronStewart
02:49 / 26.04.03
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
02:53 / 26.04.03
Kitty will be joining the cast of X-Treme X-Men with the next storyarc beginning next month. She's currently been wearing her hair like that in the "Mechanix" Kitty mini-series and in the pages of Igor Kordey XXM art that were on X-Fan, and that's what was the big tip-off that it was Kitty and not Creepy Nurse Annie. Also, the face looks younger than Annie's should be (but don't tell that to Kia Asamiya.)
 
 
The Falcon
03:38 / 26.04.03
Who the fuck is Jeffrey Garrett?

I am feeling a total geek-fu inferiority complex here.

Oh, Bishop's power is to store 'energy', in whatever form suits the writer, and use it offensively. And guns. I don't think anyone mentioned that.

He might use them to channel his energy blasts, actually.
 
 
Mike-O
05:26 / 26.04.03
Fantomex theory is definetly a mindfuck, boys... but a credible one at that. Would be quite interesting to see that, but I too have to ask what his motives would be...? Great cover, Jimenez is really amping it up for this run, I have to say,,,
 
 
Aertho
19:22 / 26.04.03
Jeffrey Garrett is a kid teleporter who was accused of murder a few issues ago in X-treme X-Men. He actually DID murder some people, and Storm and Co. wanted the boy to stand trial. Charlie and Emma were like, "No! not no stinking HUMAN trial!" Cue Storm's righteous soliloquy.
 
 
The Photographer in Blowup
19:50 / 26.04.03
I think Charles would only act that way under Claremont's pen - can't see him thinking that way in New X-men.

Emma, on the other hand...
 
 
Mike-O
04:55 / 28.04.03
Even Emma... why defend the kid? What purpose does it ultimately serve for her to be doing that...?
 
 
bio k9
05:49 / 28.04.03
Kristen Shepard did it.
 
 
FinderWolf
11:25 / 29.04.03
Who's Kristen Shepard? You're not talking about Grant M.'s girlfriend, are you? (Her name is spelled Kristan, I have no idea what her last name is)
 
 
Chubby P
11:47 / 29.04.03
The fifth page can be found here
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
12:42 / 29.04.03
"Kristen Shephard did it" is the answer to a famous pop cultural question from 80s US tv.
 
 
Quimper
13:25 / 29.04.03
The fifth page is fantastic due to the Orfeo reference. I didn't know the song Hank was singing last issue was from said opera. But it's clear that hank is playing orpheus to Emma's eurydice. He's going through painstaking lengths in refusal to believe that his love (?) is gone forever. Hopefully, Morrison had always intended them to be a couple. That is why he fashioned Hank after the romantic Beast from the numerous tellings of the beauty and the beast fairy tale. A Hank/Emma pairing would play off of Emma's ridiculous history with AOA Hank McCoy (an accidental by-product that would appease fanboys) and clearly show Emma's inner growth as she allows herself to be with someone who is monstrous in appearance, but a nice match for her otherwise.
 
 
Dan Fish - @Fish1k
13:37 / 29.04.03
"Kristen Shephard did it" is the answer to a famous pop cultural question from 80s US tv.

Go take a cold shower. Might wake you up.
 
 
The Natural Way
13:49 / 29.04.03
That cover's so good, it's nearly time for a fist-fight.
 
 
FinderWolf
19:04 / 29.04.03
Emma and Beast were together in AGE OF APOCALYPSE? I didn't even know Emma figured at all in that mess.
 
 
Ganesh
19:11 / 29.04.03
Nah, Maggie did it.
 
 
Quimper
20:20 / 29.04.03
Emma and Beast weren't together in AOA. She had an encounter with him during her teenage years after he had traveled to 616 Earth after the AOA universe crumbled. He escaped through the M'Kraan Crystal with...shudder...X-Man, Sugar Man and Holocaust.

As far as Emma in AOA, she did figure into it. She was on the Human Council, complete with partially shaved head and giant scar across her scalp! Poor girl.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
08:56 / 30.04.03
Damn, I knew I should have mentioned the Eurydice/Orpheus thing in the #139 thread, I would have looked dead clever. I really don't think Hank has romantic feelings for Miss Frost, though - they've been shown to get on very well ever since part 3 of E Is For Extinction, but as friends - and that's what gives the scene previewed here such pathos, because Emma didn't have many friends.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
12:24 / 30.04.03
If fantomex did it, his motive is money, remember? So obviously those embittered young cukoo chicks saved their sweetie money and hired his ass.

but I'm for the dream house theory cos I want it to be that.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
12:38 / 30.04.03
I agree with Flyboy - Henry wasn't being romantic, he was just a sweetheart and a gentleman, with dash of mild flirtation. It's just Henry. He's a great guy, and a class act.

And Emma really doesn't have many friends - she's got Henry and Scott, and Logan is obviously a friendly acquaintance, but that's about it. Several X-Men hate her, and Charles and Xorn do not seem to have any relationship with her beyond being their professional relationship.
 
 
Raw Norton
17:34 / 30.04.03
A cabin in the woods? A fucking cabin in the woods?

I'm not too thrilled with "Murder" thus far; aside from the whole Jean/Emma conflict, the whole thing is turning out like some throwaway 90s story. Maybe by 141 this will all make perfect sense, but so far it seems trite. It doesn't help to have Bishop and Sage in the spotlight in their ludicrous outfits.
sigh. Since this seems to be a pretty typical murder mystery, I suppose we ought to be looking for clues:
When Bishop and Sage interrogate Jean in the garden, the sundial is knocked over. Why?
Barnell's confession has gotta be a red herring. I hope that he was lying about dealing Kick, though. Doesn't mesh with his "hardcore straight-edge" side, which is maybe his most compelling trait.
 
 
Quimper
17:49 / 30.04.03
Yeah, I don't know about the conclusion to this issue. It just doesn't make any sense that these characters would resort to what they've been doing. There are some delightful moments, like the special class scene and the Jean scene. But, all in all, I certainly think that this a red herring.
 
 
some guy
20:09 / 30.04.03
If we're not still stuck in Jean's mind, and Emma was really murdered, it'd have to be someone who can avoid detection by both Xavier and Jean with her Phoenix powers at full level. Unless they're in on it...
 
 
Quimper
20:30 / 30.04.03
We've met that guy already...and seen the reflective bullets he killed Darkstar with.

Diamond bullets = Fantomex = Weapon Plus = Manufacturer of Kick = Barnell's supplier = Link to the next arc
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
20:36 / 30.04.03
I don't think we're in a mindscape...

So, are those Angel's babies?
 
 
Quireboy
20:38 / 30.04.03
So might Kick explain Beak's changing appearance or should we simply put that down to different artists?
 
 
rexpop
20:40 / 30.04.03
It does kind of make sense. And the clues, while not completely obvious where there. Not sure about the kick part as it doesn't quite gell with what went on before, but I'm sure that next issue will resolve everything nicely.

And only two weeks to go until the final part .
 
 
Mr Tricks
21:10 / 30.04.03
Art was FAB...dorky costumes and all...

poor BEAST...

The return of the 1st person narrative...

poor REDNECK...

XORN meditating; hmmm...

Cyclops is still missing...

Beak & Angel's babies already!?!?...

What ever happened to those U-men?...

did I mention the great art?
 
 
Quireboy
22:14 / 30.04.03
So is it remotely possible - as suggested elsewhere - that Fantomex is Emma's brother Christian?
 
 
LDones
22:50 / 30.04.03
Hm. So Angel's the obvious culprit if the clues are to be believed, though I don't think it will be that simple.

Everyone's acting suspicious in this issue except for Hank. Why is Charles making jokes when one of his teachers has been murdered hours before? Why is Jean acting like such an arrogant cock? And why IS that sundial knocked over (makes me think of the whole 'Who Shot Mr. Burns' thing). Why is Xorn saying weird, suspicious shit like his disclaimer to Bishop before the interrogation, and 'Meditating, I believe'? Why is Angel yelling at Xorn like he's a servant? What does the Kick really have to do w/ the murder? And where the hell does Nightcrawler come from and then subsequently disappear to?

Back in #138, I remember being highly skeptical when Angel told Beak she was pregnant (it had only been something like 3 days since they supposedly were physically involved), but that page's comments from both of them take on weird meaning now, looking back. (Angel saying they'll be kicked out unless they 'do something' fast. Beak being confused why this has anything to do with him (though that could easily be teenage ignorance)). I'm pretty positive those 'things' in the cabin are Angel's eggs/larva. If it isn't just accellerated mutant reproduction processes (and Angel really is the excessive teen pregnancy type, isn't she?), maybe some Kick set her into high gear. I think if the person holding the gun on the last panel isn't Angel, it's likely a red herring, possibly Scott, having found the murder weapon.

If his motivation was caring for Angel's baby(ies), Barnell can't have been the supplier of Kick, since he wasn't aware of it until after the Riot. I think he's likely blowing his own actions out of proportion, given his penchant for self-loathing and melodrama. This whole arc's gone rather melodramatic, though, so who knows...

If Angel DID shoot Emma, or coerced Beak into doing it, it may have been on the influence of Xorn, getting back to the 'healing her by shattering her diamond form' thing. Can't Xorn read minds, anyway, or see motivations? He can look at people and see all the way into their past lives... Perhaps he knew something was going to happen and allowed it. It's almost completely out of character for Xorn to do something like that, but he is acting rather strangely this issue. Maybe it's the way Jimenez draws him. Quitely & Van Sciver made it look like Xorn was perpetually deep, but Jimenez's rendering looks more like a robot. I love his version of Angel, and the Cuckoos. And I love all the little touches in the panels. The child's drawing of the monkey being shown to the prisoner in the prison visiting area. The pictures on Charles' desk (Who is that in the picture on panel 2 of page 7? I can make out Scott, but the rest is a mystery)

I get the feeling the circumstances of the murder and the identity of the killer will come from left field, sort of. Or rather, I don't know if the reader has been given the information to piece together the solution to the mystery. Some amazing, Batman-style deductions will likely be present next issue to wrap things up, if we get a wrap-up at all.

And I think Hank's actually going to put Emma back together.

It's weird getting all these notes of dischord and strife and shady / violent motivation in New X-Men. I'd really enjoyed the Xen aspect that it had through the end of the Imperial arc. Regardless, I'm enjoying the ride. And I must say that Kick/Fantomex/Weapon Plus chain of ideas posted above is intriguing.
 
 
LDones
22:52 / 30.04.03
I accidentally spelled Zen with an 'X'. I'm such a nerd.
 
 
Aertho
22:54 / 30.04.03
Brother Christian = Fantomex...

Maybe, but isn't the X-Family already a ridiculously inbred and small world? I was completely thrown by this issue. I thought I was onto something by the way i stumbled into the mindscape idea, but jeesus... Unless this whole cabin thing is a narrative ripple coming from other's people's paranoia... or a misdirection on par with Fantomex... And as for Beak selling drugs because of Angel's pregnancy? wasn't that only a few days ago that she even said she was pregnant? and if I'm following the storyline here... Emma was KILLED the day after the prizegiving, making all of this VERY "not quite right". It doesn't make sense, and their's no John A Dreams or Harlequinade to blame it on. Except Phoenix... who may not be Phoenix. Phoenix=Phantomex?

Good Lord... someone make a breakthrough for me here. I'm already bored with trying too hard.
 
 
Mr Tricks
23:25 / 30.04.03
The Christian=FantomX is out of the blue for me.... does this jive with the King Lear theme?

However Emma was shot in her flaw... One would have to be a pretty good shot to hit her square in the nose...
...who else knows about that flaw?

Wondered about Cyclops finding the gun in the shed as well...

if that was fantomX's arm wouldn't it be more dressed up?

I'm wondering if Barnel is confessing to protect someone... or is he under someone's influence as well...

and what about No-girl?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
00:23 / 01.05.03
I think Barnell's trying to protect Angel, but I'm not sure if Angel is really the culprit.

I can't say that I'm too crazy about how this story is turning out, but I am happy that it seems like Emma really is gone. It would be too cheesy for to come back, you know?
 
  

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