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Ever feel really sick of yourself...?

 
  

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that
16:55 / 07.04.03
I mean, really, really sick. Where everything just seems to be buggering up completely and you can be sure as a Barbelith ass-candling that it's your fucking fault. And there's bugger all you can do. And you've alienated virtually everyone and yet somehow you cannot control your fucked up over-medicated self. And you constantly feel like crying, the pressure of tears behind your eyes like a fucking headache. And you just want to fucking puke it all out, all the badness, all the crap. Go on then, puke it out here.

Ghaaaaspbyeurrhgeee
 
 
bitchiekittie
18:13 / 07.04.03
all the internety kisses you can handle, woman

I feel like that sometimes. but none of us are perfect, weve all got issues and quirks, and anyone who really knows you and loves you will (eventually) be cool with that.

youre a terrific person, laydee. dont let a bout with your pooey side make you forget that.
 
 
bitchiekittie
18:15 / 07.04.03
ah, and I didnt really follow the abstract. so:

plugh. bleeechhhh. ooh, when did I eat that? pblarrrrkk!
 
 
that
18:33 / 07.04.03
Awww....thank you, bitchiekittie... huggles back....
 
 
that
19:15 / 07.04.03
This wasn't a just me whining thread, btw... it's (yet another) thread for everyone to whine about what a fuck-up they are...
 
 
Mourne Kransky
19:26 / 07.04.03
Aw, I wanted to whine about what a fuck up other people are instead. That's the only way I stay afloat emotionally and take my mind off what a fuck up I am. A fuck up with a front tooth missing too. But that would just get really ugly, I guess.
 
 
Ganesh
19:47 / 07.04.03
Dysmorphic, certainly - and possibly straddling the axes...
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
20:00 / 07.04.03
We are the self-deprecation society!
Get a bleedin' move onnnnaarrrgghhggukkcck
 
 
Tryphena Absent
20:24 / 07.04.03
Yup... right here, right now- four weeks to write six essay's and half a dissertation so I, you know, daydream, watch Men in Black, go shopping, chat to the guys next door while they're wrecking the concrete in our backyard and feel mildly nauseous as I realise my degree is losing points as I type. Strange mix of depression, desperation and smiling like a madwoman because I appear not to care. I'm really sick of myself.
 
 
gingerbop
21:48 / 07.04.03
^ that is so 'me' ^
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
22:01 / 07.04.03
lately i have found myself falling into old traps, drinking heavily and hitting on to many women at once.
i dont know if this is some kind of de-volution since i broke up with my girlfriend or am i really a drunkard at heart?

when im drinking everything feels so natural, and it makes me sick when i sober up that i enjoy being shit faced...

so yeah, puke
 
 
Mazarine
00:45 / 08.04.03
I just had a very unattractive sobbing, hair tearing, blotchy faced, sniveling fit of self-loating this weekend. It had been building for a while, and I was feeling like such an utter fuck-up that I snapped. Bleurgh.
 
 
Crimes_Of_Fashion
01:07 / 08.04.03
Reminds me of my relationship with my sister. see,
I hadn't seen my sister in what felt like hours but was actually closer to years, the phantom odor of her sex and the ghost of her screams just sub-audible echoes behind the miasma of the everyday. That's all she'd been for so long, mere echoes and sensory delusion turning my head in a crowded room to a disappointment I could hardly understand that was both complete and overwhelming. I'd hoped these feelings for her would fade, as I'm told they
do and I'd thought they had; mostly, I'd aided their demise by burying them beneath a mountain of pharmacopoeia and drink but I was wrong, there she was.
I'd received the letter that morning, in what I'd thought was my anonymity, it read simply "Our parents have expired. Come back for drinks and a laugh - Alessa."
Alessa... One time in an acquaintance's chateau in the south of France, while perusing a somewhat horrific catalogue of his photographs, 'modifications de corps d'impromtu', that I came across a passage immutable in describing my relationship with my sister. The main body of the work concerned amputeeism and portrayed the amputee with a strange mix of erotic entreaty and finality, it was underneath a rather bile-spitting image of a grossly overweight woman, minus legs, fucking her own prosthesis that I came across a passage that described an itch most amputees felt, from time to time, in the phantom limb.
That was Alessa; an itch too deep to scratch.
My parents on the other hand were a nightmare of jury rigged nervous systems and banks of dead electronics. They'd plugged themselves into The House, yes, The House, centuries ago, shrugging off epidermis for the slow calculated respirations of mechanical lungs, the endless thoughts of machine. They we're a part of it and it was a part of them, in every rotting board and endless hallway, the countless doors and dark spaces and they we're dead, so I guess, the house was dying too now.
I had a feeling my sister's role in things may have been more than a passive amusement and such a heartfelt letter.
I was going home.
Whcih brings me to my point...
Which is...
Drug use and sex with your twin sister can often help aleviate that sense of nothingness at the ceter of your personality.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
01:39 / 08.04.03
That would have been better if your full stops had been more accurate.
 
 
Crimes_Of_Fashion
04:39 / 08.04.03
It was a spur of the moment thing, babe.

Six cups of coffee and an armful of something my dealer referred to as 'akin to pregnant mantis extract.'

So, like! Sorry if my punctuation; is off.
 
 
telyn
07:32 / 08.04.03
The last time I felt anything approaching that was Sunday afternoon a week ago. It was when we changed to BST and I didn't know; as a result was 45mins late to a music job I really give a damn about. A whole host of other things just got on top of me and so I went and screamed in the bathroom, leaving my housemates and a visiting friend in the sitting room going 'we think that's just her. Ignore it'.

I did want them to ignore me, because although I was very stressed and upset I couldn't discuss it. By screaming I could eleviate it just enough. I am always surprised at how terrible screams sound, and how well they match how I feel at those points in time. I end up sitting on the bathroom floor going 'if I feel this bad, why aren't I crying?'
 
 
Crimes_Of_Fashion
08:53 / 08.04.03
>music job< another trained seal? I did a stint at Sony that was closest it ever came to a 'job'. Otherwise it's mostly parties, morgies and rockola.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
10:05 / 08.04.03
"Morgies?"

To answer Cholister's question: for sure. I sorta distrust people who *never* feel a little bit sick of themselves, much as I feel a little dubious about people who never feel any different. The cynical misanthrope in me, he say that a little self-loathing can be a good thing - almost like salt - it keeps you sharp, and aware. It can keep you on balance, and give you perspective: stop you coming out with any nonsense about how you're more enlightened than the idle masses, or falling into delusions wherein you think that person you 'love' is making a terrrrible mistake by being with someone else.

But everything in moderation. You need a tiny little pinch of self-hate as seasoning, balanced out by a disproportionate amount of self-acceptance and hippy shit like that, and I won't claim to have found the right balance. I do like Xoc's answer, even though I'm sure it's not big and clever... find some genuinely appalling people, and reassure yourself that you're not like that - they can be anyone from fellow Barbelith posters to columnists for broadsheet newspapers. Or alternatively, and slightly more healthily, say "fuck it" to your fuck-ups and move on. This may involve some denial, but it's not as if endlessly dwelling on your past mistakes and wallowing in how bad they make you feel is necessarily going to help you avoid them...

I don't know if this is of any use to anyone or just me being too cheap to get a therapist myself.
 
 
Sax
10:28 / 08.04.03
Ah, Flyboy. Were I less a) Northern, b) heterosexual and c) old, I think I'd probably give you one.

Myself, I'm probably far too optimistic to feel bad about much in my life, although I do hate myself for not addressing serious issues until they become big problems, and there are parts of my role in my working life which I'm not dead comfortable with, largely management-type stuff. But on the whole, I try not to mug myself.
 
 
Morlock - groupie for hire
14:32 / 08.04.03
...whereas I've practically turned it into an art-form.

On bad days, I can't see anything other than my troubles. Usually end up orbiting the choice of breaking something, crawling into a corner and sleeping off as much of my life as possible, or some sympathy-grabbing ploy.
Thankfully, the self-loathing kicks in around this point. I take a step back, and realise that this premeditation places all the options somewhere between reprehensible and contrived, quite aside from the pointlessness. Also, in the grand scheme of things it's mountains and molehills, really.
Then I sometimes take another step back and realise that both states of mind are as bad as the other, and the more time spent in either the harder I'm making things for myself. Add some all-purpose apathy, frustrate for a few hours and it's time to scrape the carrots off the walls again.
At some point in all this I find some distraction, calm right down again. Ready for the next round. Joy.
And I haven't been sleeping well. And I need to cut my nails, but can't find any scissors. *sigh*

So, how's your day been?
 
 
Crimes_Of_Fashion
14:57 / 08.04.03
It totally throws me that so many intelligent people are so unhappy and not using their goddamn superior intellects to find a solution.

Self-loathing leads to self-annihilation...

Which is fine and dandy for culling the dumb shits but fuckadoo.

Isolate the problem and aim for working towards a solution.

Fat? Start exercising, dieting, doing speed.

Lonely? Join a cult. Stalk someone. Do speed.

erm... without money? roll a hobo. get a job. do speed.

Look I'm not usually the one to endorse medication, but hey, I think there’s a color of the pharmaceutical rainbow for every little bump life vomits up.
 
 
Quantum
14:59 / 08.04.03
Sorry, this probably counts as threadrot- I don't do self loathing anymore, I think it's a waste of time. Plenty of other people loathe me, why should I waste my energy?
Either 1)lower your expectations so you can more easily reach them
2)try really hard and cut yourself some slack if you don't achieve what you tried to do
3)Just stop. Don't do it anymore. It's like giving up smoking, quit it. Self loathing is inverted vanity, like paranoia is inverted egotism. Care less, remember it basically doesn't matter.

Sorry about that, you can all get back to your self loathing now- I think you're lovely, normal people being too hard on yourselves and feeling down, but what do I know about your life? Nothing.
 
 
The Natural Way
16:47 / 08.04.03
Angry? Depressed?

Tell yrself one thing:

"I'm a treat."




Then have a FEAST!



You know it makes sense.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
17:55 / 08.04.03
"I'm a treat, eat me" surely?

I try to project all my self-loathing onto others, and I usually manage pretty well. The only time I really wallow is after break-ups, when I can convince myself that everything ever is my fault and more to the point, that I richly deserve all the pain I'm feeling, if not more. Then I sleep with someone else and get over it.

I am strangely intrigued by Crimes of Fashion's take on all this. Go Crimes! Do we have the miscegenated progeny of Haus and BC on our hands?

Oh, I do hope so ...
 
 
Mourne Kransky
18:29 / 08.04.03
Let's examine the evidence, WP:

culling the dumb shits + solution to life's little bumps = speed, speed and speed

Were Rage not such a sweetie, I'd say this was her lovechild by innercircle.

As you say, Go Crimes! Ah, the innocent smugness of youth.
 
 
deja_vroom
18:37 / 08.04.03
I read yesterday that Thoreau once said that every man lives in silent despair. Wow. All of a sudden, don't feel so lonely anymore. See that guy with shiny gray hair, a winner's smile, nice suit and young wife, driving a black Audi, whose body looks 30 even though he's already 50? I bet that when he gets drunk he puts a 12-gauge gunshot to his mouth and to this day he doesn't know why he haven't pulled the trigger yet.

I haven't been feeling sick of myself for sometime now, but... oh, ait. I feel it coming already. I just had to remember some stuff. There you go:

AAAAAAWWWWWAAAAARGGGGLLLLLLSBLLLLLLLOOOSHHHHHHHHHGGKKKKKKK!!!

I need medicine.
 
 
Cosmicjamas
21:41 / 08.04.03
Oh, Crimes, are we so soon to say goodbye?

Others like to collect adult mantids (especially females full of eggs), then place them in a large glass container (empty fish aquarium) and watch egg masses being glued to an inserted tree branch. After egg laying, mantid death usually occurs a few weeks later...

Would your dealer be so irresponsible? Could you not have pestered him for a batch of adrenochrome instead?
 
 
pomegranate
17:54 / 09.04.03
flyboy, i feel you. i think the trick is to have just enough loathing to make you get a move on and such. too much, and it just paralyzes you cos you think you can't do anything. not enough, and you think, 'why should i...i'm fine!'

me, instead of being at a happy medium, i vacillate wildly back and forth. not effective.

bllleeeeaaaarrrggghhh!
 
 
Rage
19:32 / 09.04.03
I feel that way when I post here, sometimes. Must be a bizarre cyberpersona that I've created for myself: a cyberpersona that the mighty magicians who post to this location have decided to chop into little pieces of vomit retch. ::wipes away a tear:: However shall I mantain? ::coughs:: I could always delete The Ragel and start freshblank, but some like Jack Fear and The Bio would feel that Ragelian tingle and know who Eris23baby *really* was.

Yet I look into the stars and realize that getting sick of yourself is a good way to throw out yourself and start anew. I thank you, barbelith, for your tough love therapy. Together we shall ascend. asses out pixie sticks::

Getting sick of yourself means you're growing up. Changing. Reprogramming. Getting sick of the word "reprogramming," on the otherland, is for next weeks discussion.
 
 
Crimes_Of_Fashion
20:27 / 09.04.03
Cosmic : True.

But to get all knocked up the female mantis first cannibalizes the male while he's shooting little mantis sperms up inside her.

There was a point to this but I'm feeling faint.
 
 
Ganesh
08:28 / 10.04.03
I realise that was a typo, Rage, but "asses out pixie sticks" plus the 'tongue' smiley is quite delightful.
 
 
Hrodwulf
12:04 / 10.04.03
I guess I should feel ashamed, but fuck that. I feel pretty good about myself most of the time. Sure, it sucks if I forget to call someone or something similar, but me I feel quite happy about even if there is much room for improvement.
 
 
Hrodwulf
12:15 / 10.04.03
That being said, I wonder as some of you pointed out, that it might be a bit healthy for me to feel bad about myself sometimes. Maybe I'd strive more for improvement.
 
 
pomegranate
16:51 / 10.04.03
crimes of fashion--i think it's so the mantis can get nourishment for the little ones she's about to cultivate.

not to mention, then you don't have to wonder if he's gonna call the next day.
 
 
slinkyvagabond
23:19 / 10.04.03
[Don't read this, it's quite a boring outpouring, a diary of lost potential, a spell to rid myself of self-pity.]

yeah. I could do without that question hanging on my head. I don't really want people to read this, but self-loathing yeah? I been there. But somehow my problems don't seem big enough to really describe. Just rejection and powerlessness and more rejection and more powerlessness (get a kick in the teeth for every mile I go...). I just want to write it down. I miss my (ex) boy. I didn't really know him but I really liked him. I'm not heartbroken, just beaten down and wondering as so many of us are: when will I find someone who can love me and stay with me? I'm sick of being the transitional person with whom people can sort out their shit and then move on, feeling good about themselves and leave me with all the crap they shed. Plus I'm trying to do my finals for my BA so I really needed just one thing in my life to be steady and fun. And as far as I knew it was but his velocity was at a different pace to mine. He wanted fireworks and I, having been burnt horribly during the last show, wanted peace and a steady hand on the small of my back. The thing is, the weeks we had together were so wonderful, I can't describe the simple pleasure of it, uncomplicated as it was by too-fierce emotion. I don't see why he threw away all that fun we were having but I comfort myself with the fact that at least we had fun. And we will be friends and maybe we'll be better off that way but right now the pleasure of being held, looking at him, making dinner with him, laughing with him, touching him, fuck, touching him, is too fresh and it acid burns longing into that very tight spot in my chest where my heart chakra seems to have shrivelled. And I did wallow in self pity yesterday and still do, because to me the most important thing in life is to love. And I realise that I still love in so many ways but no-one can deny that it's a different buzz when there's two of you moving in time. But I can't help wondering if this is my lot in life, some karma ripening and rotting. Karma ain't punishing but some days it really feels like it. Got sick yesterday morning and spent the whole day in bed with the knowledge that I should be studying pinching at my brain. I'm really sorry but I needed to write this and get rid of it and I truly apolgise to anyone that misguidely reads this: it's just me writing my own story of self pity and throwing it away - I don't want it and so delete this post if you like, or leave it, I won't be back for it. I'm clawing for air with it, clawing to make a new me, one that doesn't let boys like that beautiful, talented, smart boy that just gave me 5 weeks of happiness and tenderness and mindblowing love-making fuck me over so easily. It wasn't love but it could have been with time but he's moving faster out of my orbit and not in my time-zone. And I understand. That's the killer, I always understand. I wish things could be different but they're not and so I have to roll with the punches yet again and spill my guts to strangers because strangely it helps. Call this a banishing. I am thankful for the time you spent with me and now I will try my best to let it goxxxx

"when no-one is around love will always love you"
 
  

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