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Shiver me timbers [Pirates of the Caribbean]

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07:42 / 09.08.03

Saw this last night. Utterly fantastic. I was particularly nice to - as the opening scene came up - let out a hearty "Har Har!", and have the cheer returned by at least 20 other members of the audience.

The plot - surprisingly - hung together pretty well, and the dialogue was absurd, well-written, piratey nonsense. I think repeat visit(s) to the cinema might be required, me harties.

The resistable rise of Reidcourchie

10:25 / 13.08.03

Originally posted by Mr Tricks
"there was a strange sence of time as well... as if all the islands involved where less than a days journey from each others.

Also, strange cause & effects... a ship blows up and it take a charactor less then a minute to swim from the wreackage of one ship to the other ship and climb up on deck..."

Spoiling the overall documentary style feel of the rest of the film?

Originally posted by Whiskey Priestess

"I was all for staying out of the ninja/pirate debate as it started when I was offboard, but now I've got to come out as a pirate. The day they make Ninjasof the Caribbean , I may reconsider. Me hearties."

There is it's called American Ninja 2: The Confrontation, though I'm not sure that Michael Dudikoff brought the same quality to his Joe Armstrong character that Depp brought to Sparrow.

I loved this film, there was no bad here (though Bloom was alittle wet, I reckon he must have cried himself to sleep after every scene he had to play with Depp.

Though by know means historically accurate (which is probably a meaningless phrase as far as cinema goes anyway) it was obvious that a fair bit of research had gone into it.

Now we need an Invisbles style story about Captain Mission.

17:03 / 15.08.03

Now we need an Invisbles style story about Captain Mission.

For a moment there, I thought that read "Captain Morgan." I was about to get all excited about the cabana boy from Parrot Bay sidekicking with the Captain as they team up with Jim Beam and Yukon Jack to stop the evil Bud from tapping the Rockies with viral mind control nanites constructed by the Outer Church from the year 2056, while it is later revealed that reality as we know it is only the tremmored hallucinations of Nikoli Schmirnof as he slowly starves to death in an abandoned goulag.

*glances back at topic abstract*

er, Yar me hearties, or something.

The resistable rise of Reidcourchie

07:55 / 16.08.03

Don't worry about it I meant Misson anyway.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

08:31 / 16.08.03

Didn't Burroughs call Misson Mission in Cities of the Red Night?

But yeah. That would be fantastic. Arr!

The resistable rise of Reidcourchie

16:09 / 16.08.03

That would explain it, I checked Burroughs then Dafoe at different times. I'm still not sure if he was a real geezer or not.

Hattie's Kitchen

06:46 / 19.08.03

Saw this last night - being a selfless ninja, I will admit I enjoyed it very much.

Johnny Depp rules - anyone who bases their character on Keith Richards and Pepe LePew rules anyway, but I thought he was totally mesmerising in this.

And the fight near the end, when in the midst of all the action, Geoffrey Rush pauses just to say "Arrr!" - fantastic.

22:08 / 20.08.03

Originally posted by Mr Tricks
"there was a strange sence of time as well... as if all the islands involved where less than a days journey from each others.

Also, strange cause & effects... a ship blows up and it take a charactor less then a minute to swim from the wreackage of one ship to the other ship and climb up on deck..."

Spoiling the overall documentary style feel of the rest of the film?

Well it certainly broke the suspension of belief as both myself and my girlfriend would turn to each other with a WaaaHT?. Take for instance the scene where the kid is on a floating piece of driftwood. The ship comes alongside the kid and suddenly he's being pulled aboard as if the ship's deck where only a foot above the water. Yeah these and the other are minor details but each time it happend I was reminded that I was sitting in a theater watching a movie and not emersed in the story/ride.

Sure sure personal tastes and all....

still, it should've been rated
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

03:57 / 21.08.03

Maybe not the best example there, Tricks, since the 'boy on driftwood' shot is, what, the fifth in the film? That's one badass muthafuckin' pirate flick if you're totally absorbed five shots in.

But really - would the full nautical experience of stopping the ship, finding and throwing a rope, hooking the kid and pulling him up really add to the flick? You could make an (admittedly pedantic and stupid) film out of that sequence alone.

When a film cuts from a shot of a guy pulling up the drive in his car to one where he's snogging his wife, you can be reasonably sure that he did in fact stop the car, remove the key, lock it up then go back having forgotten his briefcase, walk up to, unlock and open the front door, put down his gear, pop a breath mint and put on some Barry White before coddling up to the lady. Read between the panels, mate. Every second you waste with unnecessary crap like that is a second you owe the zombie pirates.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

05:55 / 21.08.03

Saw it again yesterday- even better second time round.

"I take it you've never been to Singapore". Fucking class!

10:42 / 08.09.03

Great, great, great, great, great movie. It has explained to me the point of Johnny Depp for the first time ever - and one of the wimmin I went to see it with quoted a review of his performance as follows:

he doesn't so much chew the scenery as go down on it

We all also particularly enjoyed:

* the zombie pirate monkey
* the fact that they don't make the naval-officer boyfriend completely crap to make Orlando Bloom look better
* the line "Why is the rum gone?"
*the trailer for that other Johnny Depp movie about Mexico and/or the trailer for the movie about naked fifty-year-old women, with Helen Mirren, depending on personal preference.

Finally, many of us were curiously fascinated and rather impressed by the fact that this is a film about *pirates*, with Johnny Depp and Orlando Bloom consistently standing very close to each other and handling each other's weapons... and yet it manages not to be slashy. (Though I realize I and the people I saw it with are probably the only people in the known sky to think this.)

22:10 / 18.09.03

I know I'm shockingly late to getting 'round to seeing this, but..

DUDE!! That was fuacking amazing!

Best stupid big budget hollywood picture in.. decades, possibly..

I was worried that it wouldn't live up to the grand possibilities of the premise (the premise essentially being "There are pirates. It lasts over two hours."), but it does a fantastic job of stuffing in absolute tons of everything I had right to expect from a pirate movie, with additional zombies. The inevitable attempts to be all post-modern and smart are surprisingly not-annoying, and occasionally even work.

Halfway through I was thinking "Where are the ARRs?", but then there were a few cracking ones towards the end, so I can't complain on that score..

the only few minor gripes:

i. still not enough ARRs

ii. I don't think it dwelled long enough on the pirate island with the ridiculously great brawling and obscenity

iii. All those stuck-up navy guys should have got their bloody come-uppance, expanding the general crazed anarchic tone of things beyond the confines of Hollywood good taste.. not very likely with Walt Disney and Jerry Bruckhiemer on the credits I know, but still, it would have been sweet.

iv. lamentable lack of keel-hauling, and of the phrase "me buckos".

But such trivialities aside, it has it all! Rum! Walking the plank! Gold! Massive amounts of swashbuckling! Doublecrossing! Caves! Boarding and broadsides and so forth! Desert islands! Ghostships! "When will this damn fog clear"! A graveyard of ships! Monkeys! Zombies!! Yeah!

Oh, and this might be just me, but I couldn't shake the idea that Jack Sparrow's appearance is not entirely dissimilar to a pirate Zodiac Mindwarp..

05:20 / 19.09.03

Great film, but I thought it lost it a little at the end. The start was really tightly written, characters intorduced and plot progressing nicely. The end battle I thought dragged because all that needed to happen was for Orlando to put his blood on the coin and it just dragged on and on. Especially since the pirates couldn't be killed until he did so, the fight had no real consequence or sense of danger.

Minor gripe about an otherwise fine film.

12:56 / 25.09.03

Yes I saw this great film by knocking-off at an arty do with me girlfriend - u pik or choose - low-brow or high-brow???? Glad I did - rebellion or conformity???????? Since she has a penchant for Jonny Depp...... Nothing to do with me you unnerstand!!! (tsk tsk!!) Tho he did a blinder in "From Hell" and "Fear And Loathing". Alas me girl fell asleep - too much booze on top of a hectic family lifesyle - but I laffed me ass off - esp. at the korny horrorcore bits. Bless!!! Yes reminds me of a Canadian McDonalds flashback. I was awestruck as I used to have a 'blue' beard when I was a crusty orrible squat punk. Alas I centralised in the toilets with a hefty pranayama sesh whilst visualisin the ideosphere of two fingas up2 society!!!!!!!! I don't half talk poo the St Jon's Wort works a rite treat though..... Has anyone heard of the Russki issue anti-USA playin cards - Geo Bush - Jack of Hearts!!!!!!!!!

02:58 / 22.09.04

Wow i didn't know it came out that long ago......mental. (I am, of course.)

I saw this on DVD after borrowing it from a friend and i really liked it. When the Pirates are underwater all walking towards the ship near the end i started realizing that i was watching something that was turning into an epic, it was amazing.

Right from the moment that Depp stepped off his sinking boat at the beginning and i started laughing, i really enjoyed it.

Whisky Priestess

14:36 / 23.09.04

"I couldn't shake the idea that Jack Sparrow's appearance is not entirely dissimilar to a pirate Zodiac Mindwarp.. "

More like a pirate Zaphod Beeblebrox, I thought. In fact, exactly like a pirate Zaphod Beeblebrox.

14:51 / 25.09.04

exactly like a pirate Zaphod Beeblebrox.

Despite having only one head and two arms?

A two headed, three armed Jack Sparrow would be sweet. Especially when he was drunk and arguing with himself and trying to beat himself up with the extra arm.

12:30 / 27.10.04

just saw this article and thought i'd post it

here

very interesting- do you think its true????

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

12:44 / 27.10.04

I certainly hope so. It seems very plausible- it's bound to have at least occurred to them to ask Keef. And chances are he'd say yes. I'm inclined to believe it.

Woohoo! This is gonna be so cool!

13:28 / 27.10.04

it's on the guardian as a 'done deal' kind of story so yeh i think it's all through. the only thing better than this maybe would be sessions and cornwell as mick'n'keef rigging boys.

16:38 / 25.09.05

>> I know I'm shockingly late to getting 'round to seeing this, but..

Not as late as I was. Just saw it, and wow, it's refreshing to have a movie based on a Disney ride and done by Big Hollywood actually be really good, clever, and intelligently entertaining.

One real continuity blunder: when Jack and Will steal the little dinghy to go out steal the ship, we see them walking underwater, completely on the sea floor as they leave the beach, and then we see them talking with the water level at their necks. Then we seem them down deep underwater again, even to the point where they show us Will getting his leg caught in a lobster trap or whatever. Is this just clumsy editing, a botched attempt to show us they're coming up for air periodically, even when it seems kind of deep? Or am I missing something? Or the only who said 'whahh???' when I saw this bit?

17:20 / 25.09.05

There's a pocket of air in the boat that they're carrying over their heads, like turning a glass upside down and pushing it into the sink.

It's still kind of imposssible to do that, for other reasons, but a makes a little more sense.

18:51 / 27.09.05

My favorite bit is when the mutton-chopped captain's right-hand man is telling Orlando Bloom how Jack escaped from being marooned on the island. Bloom/Will Turner clearly thinks the story is nonsense and says, bewildered: "...sea turtles?" And the other guys says with such relish "Aye!!! SEA TURTLES!!!" Great moment.

How are the extras on disc 2 of the DVD set?

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

19:37 / 27.09.05

What's this I'm hearing about Keef being too busy with the Stones to show up in Pirates 3? That sucks ass. Couldn't Orlando Bloom replace him on guitar or something?

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