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New Marvel.com Bios suggest Magneto is still alive?

 
  

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I'm Rick Jones, bitch
08:08 / 26.03.03
Dearie me.
 
 
Warewullf
12:10 / 26.03.03
Ah, it's to be expected. 'Tis Marvel, after all.

If we'd seen Magneto's corpse ripped to shreds and eaten by rabid mutant cannibals, they'd still find a way to bring him back.
 
 
FinderWolf
13:59 / 26.03.03
Grant M. knew some idiot would do this. He just said "not on my watch", basically. Plus, you can't really kill off Magneto, the X-Men's arch-enemy, just like you can't kill the Joker, ya know? (I was going to say you can't kill the Green Goblin but they did)

T/H
 
 
The Falcon
14:52 / 26.03.03
Several times in several incarnations, but Norman Osborn's alive at present, I believe.
 
 
The Falcon
18:13 / 26.03.03
The relevant passage:

"Magneto's body was not found amid the wreckage of the island nation.

Whatever doubts surround the Master of Magnetism, one fact is certain: Magneto is a survivor. "

Did you think they'd put a bio on a website, saying: "Magneto is totally dead now. He will not feature in stories we publish anymore."?

Anyway, his body wasn't found because it was punched by the chassis' of five large aeroplanes.
 
 
Mike-O
18:26 / 26.03.03
As far as I'm concerned, Grant Morrison's X-Book is the only "continuity" I'm concerned with, and Magnus ain't gonna be back in New X any time soon. So let the pansies have there fun if they want to. When they're ready to grown up and let "dead be dead", maybe anyone of reasonable intelligence will actually want to follow another comic about the X-Men.
 
 
The Falcon
19:29 / 26.03.03
Mike-O, with the greatest respect, I'd suggest you avoid the use of the word 'pansies' as a pejorative here.

Oh, you'd think I was joking, wouldn't you...?
 
 
Seth
21:06 / 26.03.03
It makes sense to resurrect him in time for the movie. Dunno if it'll happen that way, but any loose tie-in will help the comic sales, even if the continuity is wildy different to the film. Gotta admit, I'm not that fussed about bringing him back. That kinda comic silliness can be quite an endearing convention.
 
 
the Fool
22:29 / 26.03.03
They could easily bring Magneto back via any of a billion alternate realities. No one stays dead in the marvel universe, no matter how hard they try. Look at Elektra, her death was pivotal to the story of Daredevil. And they brought her back, twice...
 
 
A
03:28 / 27.03.03
How many of are still going to be reading NewXMen after Morrison leaves the title anyway? I can think of maybe two or three writers who might tempt me to stay on with the title, but chances are it'll slide back into fanboy-pleasing oblivion once Grant's gone.

Which is to say- Grant's not bringing Magneto back, so who cares what some hack does later?
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
04:47 / 27.03.03
will keep buying only if a very good writer comes in later.

since book promotion to a movie adaptation is still played poorly, it won't affect NXM that much if Magneto is left dead.

Marvel can easily reprint some of what they consider are the best stories with the character.

Morrison played well with Magneto's ideals surviving through people who believe he's dead.
 
 
at the scarwash
06:16 / 27.03.03
which is sad, that some marvel-proclaimed "hot young writer" will take over these characters, a continuity with so much potential, and drag them back down into fanboy hell. I imagine it will be something like the current doom patrol run. Why did DC bring that title back anyway? After Pollack and Morrison, what's the point? No one's cared about them as a superhero commodity for decades otherwise, have they?
 
 
Rawk'n'Roll
07:47 / 27.03.03
When did Grant say he was leaving Magneto dead?
He's staying longer than was expected and taking Magneto's legacy in a direction that no-one has dealt with before. Whats to stop him from bringing Mags back himself?

(playing devil's advocate here btw)
 
 
The Natural Way
11:26 / 27.03.03
Part of the joy of Grant's book is that it doesn't feel like a conventional superhero romp: Grant's *super villains* don't feel like the spandex-clad twarts of yesteryear...blah, etc. I'd like to see some of the conventions redefined, so that plonks me squarely in the STAY DEAD, FUCK! camp. It just takes a little bit of imagination.

It'll be really gutting to see the X Crew go revert to all that clenched-fisted "ENEMY MINE!" shit. Hope it never happens. That stuff isn't endearing, it's just poopy writing.
 
 
fluid_state
01:33 / 29.03.03
I kind of picture Magneto having faked his own death (dude probably does it in his sleep, by this point). Is he building a new doomsday device? Planning the destruction of his most hated foes? Peddling Kick for kicks? Nah. He's sipping Manhattans (or perhaps, in an uncharacteristically humble twist, mixing them) at some luxurious hotel bar. Chillin.
"Why Charles, of course you haven't seen me. There is simply no need. Years of conflict have proven pointless, for all we have done is divide the world into two areas of though. How much sweeter for both of us, old friend, that I give you what you want. An end to conflict; hegemony over every mutant on the planet; Your dream, realized. And when every mutant and human comes to terms with your little ideals and ridiculous expectations, and they look for something else as is their oh-so human nature, what do you think they will find? Whose ideas will they come across, with the conviction they are self generated? Only when you have to take control of every higher organism on the planet to save them from self destruction will you realize: They cannot be saved. The only mercy here is euthanasia, and you will have denied it to them."

shit, I could go on all night. That's just how I see it, anyway.

Or maybe, he's maxin and relaxin, spinning mad trax on 'lectomagnetic wax, prophesisin wit his mad mutant proteges, Juggernaut. MC Superior, as it were.
 
 
Triplets
12:59 / 10.05.04
Oh, how things turned out, eh?
 
 
COBRAnomicon!
15:16 / 10.05.04
So, who wants to start a pool on how long it'll take for him to come back again? I'll say 36 months. Unsure of the mechanism, but for giggles I'll go with some form of cloning.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
17:47 / 10.05.04
They should have the X-Men find the REAL Xorn, the one that Magneto based his whole scheme on, and this new Xorn becomes a member of the X-Men. Some of the X-Men don't trust him, and for good reason - this Xorn realizes that Magneto Was Right, and becomes a mutant terrorist just like Magneto! So it's like bringing back Magneto, but not.
 
 
Triplets
18:11 / 10.05.04
18 months, if that. I'm not sure cloning will be the big thing for late-2005. Time travel? The Triplet's did say Xorneto was doing something to time and gravity... Maybe it wasn't him doing it but it WAS focused on him. Somebody plucking him out of the timestream?
 
 
Aertho
18:57 / 10.05.04
I read this on Alvaro's when they had a competition as to who could come up with the best way to ressurect Magneto.

Nano-Sentinels.

And I still think that's the best way to go. No pesky alternate realities, no deus ex machina wierd power, no involvement from outside his own plan... Magneto infects himself with nano-sentinels designed to repair his body should he ever experience severe damage to a vital organ. His body dies, but the sentinels maintain energy flow to his brain by recycling energy bonds from throughout his cells. So now, while he's rotting underground, the nano-sentinels begin to repair the rot, deconstruct the coffin and use it's molecules for organic repair procedures.

Now there's a scene. Magneto's hand crawling up through the dirt of his own grave. Whedon-esque, anyone?
 
 
Simplist
19:43 / 10.05.04
Chad, something tells me we'll be seeing more or less exactly that scene right about when sales on the new Excalibur series begin to dip...
 
 
Triplets
19:44 / 10.05.04
Doooooooooooo dooooooo deeeeee dooooooooooooooooo
 
 
Aertho
19:54 / 10.05.04
The thing is, it's absolutely PERFECT misdirection of dialogue too. He TELLS the X-Men to kill him and make him immortal. We think he's inviting oblivion to become an idea, an epic martyr... but he may be activating the nano-sentinels to preserve his organs. Now I'm inviting the "fanboy-wank police" with all this, but I'm gonna stop.

Morrison lives on as Sublime!
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
22:13 / 10.05.04
Chad, that idea is perfect!

It'd make Magneto a far more formidable opponent - he has control over magnetism, and also through the nanos, the molecular structure of his own body!
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
08:01 / 11.05.04
CRY HAVOK! AND LET SLIP THE DOGS OF FAN FIC!

Speaking of fan wank- I had this idea a little while ago for a single ish where Jean and Mags are talking or playing chess or something in the White Hot Room - Jean's trying to rehabilitate him so he can join the order of phoenixes or whatever but he's still holding on to human emotions, rage and guilt. The whole thing (in my head) would be like a theraphy session - Jean's helping him in some nightmare of new age forgiveness, it's one of her duties when she's not saving universes. They'd be playing chess and Xorn would keep appearing seated next to Mags.

Now, I'm never going to work for marvel, but wouldn't that be a fucking perfect way to bring them both back? Mags returns via Jean (and at the same time, natch) healed and looking for forgiveness, which of course nobody but the phoenix can give him.

Jesus I just contributed to a fan fic thread. I need to lie down.
 
 
Mario
11:02 / 11.05.04
Here's a random idea (spinning off of Chad's)

What if, instead of being rebuilt by the nano-sentinels, he _becomes_ them? He's the master of electromagnetic forces...turning into an electromagnetic pattern would be a natural progression....
 
 
rexpop
21:20 / 11.05.04
I had a couple of similar ideas.

The first is that Magneto may have encoded himself into the signal that was sent out in NXM. Signal gets picked up by something and Magneto comes back as some kind of energy field. With the right writer this could work.

The second would work for one story arc and requires a little bit of X-Men history. Way back in the Neil Adams days there was a version of Magneto wandering around that was revealed later to be a robot. Basically the robot Magneto returns beliving its the real deal and opens a huge can of whoop ass. Everybody runs around trying to work out how Mags is back, as nobody knows what is going on, before doing the big reveal. Could work for a 4-6 part story if paced right.

You could even combine the two approaches and work something there.
 
 
Mr Tricks
17:38 / 12.05.04
There's been clones of Magneto floating aound the Marvel Universe before.

It could simply be said that the magneto that was beheaded in Manhattan was another clone corrupted by KICK. Or his electromagnetic consciousness could've just hopped over to a fresh clone...making him a young & veral Badass again.

The robot thing is funny Magneto's version of DOOMBOTS. if memory serve it was the Robomags that believed he was Polaris's father.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
17:58 / 12.05.04
Ah, clones and robots suck. That sets off so many people's lamedar that it's just not worth it. Fixed-by-nanos Magneto and White Hot Room/resurrected-by-Jean-out-of-forgiveness Magneto are much more clever ideas that come naturally out of the conclusion of the most recent storylines. The resurrected-by-Jean idea is especially wonderful because it sets up a very interesting and dramatic storyline that cuts to the heart of who Jean and Magneto are as characters.
 
 
diz
18:12 / 12.05.04
the most recent fan wank theory i've seen bouncing around is that Xavier clouded everyone's minds to make it look like Logan beheaded him, while shutting him down and keeping him safe somewhere. which, of course, is pretty much exactly what happened in Ultimate X-Men, but hey, that's fanboys for you.
 
 
Mr Tricks
21:18 / 12.05.04
No arguement on the Clone/Robo lamness... I'm just pointing out that both are thoroughly entrenched X-men themes.

the undead magnanosentenalo might as well be a sort of magnetolok... Hell why not make MAGNUS from worlok's world be based on the imprinting of maneto's EM transmissions along with nanosentinal schematics on a distant planet in the future and Worlocks arrival on earth before the event the result of faster than light travel relativity.

Thus a magneto with all the powers of Worlock can at some point return to earth looking for his long lost (now dead) other son... worlok...
 
 
Aertho
22:08 / 12.05.04
Oh Criminy.

And here I thought Zombie Magneto was just a cool idea. Let's take your Magnetolok and have him meet, kill, and drink Dracula. Then he could transform into a transmode bat and REALLY be undead!
 
 
sleazenation
22:21 / 12.05.04
How long before we get to M'doktim - Magneto designed only for killing rather than impersonating Bhuddists...
 
 
Mr Tricks
00:08 / 13.05.04
And here I thought Zombie Magneto was just a cool idea. Let's take your Magnetolok and have him meet, kill, and drink Dracula.

Do you think he'd be able to effect the Iron in Dracula's blood?

I would love to see a Giant MODOK Magneto helmet with little feet and arms protruding!!!

Like, that would SOOOOOO rock!!!
 
 
The Falcon
00:55 / 13.05.04
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