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Morrison at the ICA

 
  

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No star here laces
08:22 / 28.03.03
Lentil, sir, you are a prince, as they say in London. I'll see you in the bar and buy you a dry manhattan.

My happiness will now be complete if I can secure a second ticket for my lovely companion...
 
 
lentil
09:40 / 28.03.03
It's just occurred to me that you may need the ticket to get into the bar in the first place. I'll check that when I arrive, and if it is the case, will wait for you in the lobby.
 
 
Bill Posters
10:08 / 28.03.03
It's just occurred to me that you may need the ticket to get into the bar in the first place.

I sincerely hope not, but u may be right. In which case I'll be seeing yawl at Lurid and Mordant's sat night bash instead.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
10:12 / 28.03.03
My main worry now is that I may need the credit card of the guy who booked my ticket to get in... I've got all his other details, so hopefully I should be fine. I'll be (all that working, and assuming I wake up in time) in the bar at half six. I'll be (to anyone who doesn't know me) the bloke with the fading-bleached blond hair, glasses, and Coil "Chaosphere projected on a sphere" biker jacket. And probably a Bagpuss T-shirt as well.
 
 
Cherry Bomb
10:32 / 28.03.03
Have just called the ICA ticket info office and here's the dilyo: Entrance (to Beastocracy) is free to ticket holders. I.E., if you have a ticket to the talk, you have free entry to the bar. £1.50 entrance if you're not going to the talk but want to go to the bar.

Anyone else dressing up? I have red pleather in my bag, and my day outfit is far too frumpy...
 
 
Bear
11:42 / 28.03.03
I'll probably be there about 5 depends on how long it takes me to find it, maybe earlier if I decide to go home first.

Thanx for the clear up on the costs Cherry

I'll be wearing Black, suprised?

See you all tonight!
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
12:31 / 28.03.03
have a nice time londoners.
 
 
lentil
14:24 / 28.03.03
I'll be dressing up in the sense of "not wearing the same clothes I went to work in this morning".

ie not.

but Cherry, if you have any spare red leather I'll happily get changed in the ICA toilet.

(Cheers Yawn)
 
 
lentil
14:33 / 28.03.03
shit, Lyra, i didn't realise it was you! Laces... shoulda guessed
 
 
No star here laces
15:08 / 28.03.03
It's the one constant...
 
 
Cherry Bomb
15:26 / 28.03.03
'scuse me, it's red pleather, not red leather...
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
20:11 / 28.03.03
please post pics, people, (p)if possible.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
07:14 / 29.03.03
That was much fun. My head hurts.
 
 
ghadis
08:24 / 29.03.03
'That was much fun. My head hurts. '

big ditto

it's also been a long time since i've passed out on a night bus to be taken to god knows where at silly hours in the morning
 
 
Jack Denfeld
10:27 / 29.03.03
What was Grant Morrison like? I'm a bit of a fan.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
12:11 / 29.03.03
He was charming. He pretty much restored my hero worship, actually - he's said some dubious things in print interviews in the last year and it was refreshing to hear him talk in a very relaxed way about stuff which he's covered before but still manages to make sound exciting. Particular highlights included his insight into why Frank Quitely is so good - that he 'sees' this little 3-D world in his head and then draws it perfectly, rotating it so he can get it right from any angle - ties in with what someone here said about Quitely's characters being like little puppets he can move around... Also the story about how the scorpion gods of the Loa asked him to get a scorpion tattooed on the base of his spine:

Interviewer: "And did you?"

GM: "No! Get to fuck..."

The interviewer was pretty hopeless though, had no idea how to keep the conversation flowing and kept trying to drag Morrison back to fairly prosaic questions after he'd gone off on a fascinating mad rant. He also clearly didn't quite *get* what are some fairly basic ideas that occur constantly in Morrison's work - best example being GM saying that his next big project was an 'interactive' comic - one that would actually have a dialogue with the reader... It was fairly clear that he was referring to using narrative/linguistic/magical techniques for this - the interviewer asked "So, how are you doing that - will it be on the internet?"

But overall, a very good evening. It's coincided with and inevitably boosted my feeling that I should get (back) into magic (for want of a better term). Grant and Kristan's DJ-ing choices afterwards included 'Mogadishu' by Baader Meinhof, which has earned them the highest possible place in my estimation, as well as more expected but still classic stuff like Peaches ('Fuck The Pain Away'), Missy ('Work It'), and the Sex Pistols ('Bodies').

And it's always a good Barbelith gathering when I'm not even the second most drunk person there...
 
 
Jack Denfeld
12:40 / 29.03.03
Don't suppose anyone taped it. Are there tapes out there of Morrison speaking?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
13:54 / 29.03.03
Hot diggety dang, Fly- I was just about to post that very same quote. I've been boring people all day about what a cool night it was. Ditto on the inspirational for magick thing... he also restored my desire to write.
And give the interviewer guy his due... when he was talking about comics, he was pretty good. Unfortunately, that seemed to be his only strength. As the heckler at the end shouted "Next time interview your interviewer before he interviews you... if he's never taken acid he'll be shit" (or words to that effect). A great deal of my enjoyment of the thing was watching the guy's face when GM was ranting about Timewave Zero, or the Gnostic Christ, or stuff like that. It was classic.
 
 
lentil
16:24 / 29.03.03
mmm, definitely, a fine, fine evening. I loved the way that GM wrapped up his rants in a self-effacing manner.

Did anyone else make a point of saying hello to him? I embarrassingly went up to him while he was Djing, shook his hand and said "thanks for your work". He was into it though, said "not at all, thanks for coming". Charming, as Fly said.

Also, as this was only my second Barbe-meet, 'twas lovely to meet you peeps. I don't think I met Ghadis though. Next time.
 
 
rizla mission
08:41 / 30.03.03
That all sounds ace.

I'm dead annoyed I couldn't make it
 
 
Bear
10:24 / 30.03.03
Was a cool night, the talk was good - comic stuff went over my head but wasn't bored by it. Rocket Jock sounds good to me though.

I talked to him for a little bit but didn't want to come across too nerdy talked about sigils, nice guy though - talked on the way out too he was as drunk as everyone else, well maybe not quite as much as Ghadis
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
15:04 / 30.03.03
Yeah, I went and say hi to him right at the end, and could think of absolutely nothing to say. So I said something like "Shit, you know what it's like, it's the same as when you meet people from bands you like", and he said "Aye. Bruce Foxton*." Which was pretty priceless.

*bass player from The Jam...
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
17:52 / 30.03.03
good toknow some of the stuff they played. Rocket Jock?

pitcures, anyone?
 
 
mondo a-go-go
08:43 / 01.04.03
"The interviewer was pretty hopeless though, had no idea how to keep the conversation flowing and kept trying to drag Morrison back to fairly prosaic questions after he'd gone off on a fascinating mad rant."

Actually, Paul Gravett is a consumate interviewer with a lot of experience, and I think he did a very good job of covering a lot of stuff in a short time; only running over by 15-20 minutes. They're really strict in the ICA about overruns, and they were short staffed that night (apparently the sound technician was doing everything because people had phoned in sick, and he was "about to have a nervous breakdown" -- and, as usual, half the equipment wasn't working properly...) which made them even more strict about the time. Paul managed to straddle a good divide between content for the comics fanboys and content for the magick fanboys -- equal time was given to both, and yeah, that's bound to be a disappointment to the people who were expecting Grant to wig out and be all crazymagickydood.

"He also clearly didn't quite *get* what are some fairly basic ideas that occur constantly in Morrison's work - best example being GM saying that his next big project was an 'interactive' comic - one that would actually have a dialogue with the reader... It was fairly clear that he was referring to using narrative/linguistic/magical techniques for this"

No, it wasn't, not to the average person. Did it occur to you that there were people in that audience who were probably only aware of Grant through his X-Men stuff, and might never have read The Invisibles? :]

I have read the Invisibles, and I don't know what you really mean by "narrative/linguistic/magical techniques"; at least, not how they'd be any different than what was already done with The Invisibles?

"the interviewer asked "So, how are you doing that - will it be on the internet?"

Hee. Paul knew exactly what he was talking about -- he's not ignorant. He was being deliberately obtuse in a very non-agressive manner in order to get Grant to elaborate on what he meant and how intended to achieve it rather than merely outpouring grandstanding ideas. Grant didn't, after all, seem to know yet how these interactive comics were going to be achieved. I think it was refreshing to see him interviewed by someone who wasn't going to merely hero-worship and hang onto his every word, but to (unagressively) challenge him on his statements and draw answers out of him.
 
 
Smoothly
08:53 / 01.04.03
I have read the Invisibles, and I don't know what you really mean by "narrative/linguistic/magical techniques"; at least, not how they'd be any different than what was already done with The Invisibles?

Clearly by making it less like a comic, and more like a "little animal".
Made perfect sense to me.
 
 
mondo a-go-go
09:02 / 01.04.03
What do you mean by "more animal", though? How does a comic become "more animal"? Print it on leather? (Or pleather? ;] )

Anyway, I've started a thread on what form interactive comics might take in the Comics section, so head over there :]
 
 
Future Perfect
11:03 / 01.04.03
Got to agree with kookymojo that Paul Gravett did a pretty decent job and absolutely was a relevant interviewer. As well as his Escape background he is also, IIRC, the curator for the The Cartoon Art Trust who are trying to do some really good work.

It was great evening though and to echo earlier posts despite my anxieties that he might, Morrison did not disappoint at all - I thought he came across as you'd hope, an interesting, engaging, charming and warm person.

And to top it all off, great tunes in the bar afterwards (which is a real find for me, never been to the ICA before) and dead friendly people. (In fact, MC Lentil, going by your earlier description of what you were wearing, I think Smoothly and I may have got chatting to some of your friends, a really lovely couple who'd just been to see the new Micael Winterbottom film).
 
  

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