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The Second Coming

 
  

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The Natural Way
17:21 / 11.02.03
Right, actually 'nesh, yes, the whole ITV-might-provoke-its-viewers-to-think thing is cool, but....it does smack of the "it's good compared to all that shit!" argument which is hardly a compliment, really.
 
 
The Natural Way
17:23 / 11.02.03
But I generally hate Brit drama, so ignore me.
 
 
Ganesh
17:40 / 11.02.03
No, I think it's more 'nice-surprise-that-ITV-risks-offending-relatively-oversized-audience', really. 'The Second Coming' would've been excellent anywhere, for the reasons above.

But then, I generally adore ambitious (and SF-tinged) Brit drama, and reckon we should produce loads more of it.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
10:57 / 12.02.03
I don't think we're meant to find the ending depressing, or banal: it's bittersweet, and at the same time I think there was a conscious and applaudable decision not to present the new order of things as some kind of utopia: whatever has changed hasn't really had the chance to take effect within the space of six years, or we're just not shown it... I guess you could argue that the point is also that you just wouldn't know yet, maybe ever, whether Judith had made the right decision. She has, though. Because in order for humanity to evolve, God has to die - Nelson's right, it's very His Dark Materials, but the fact that it's all part of His plan made me think more of the role of Barbelith in the Invisibles...

I understand now why iy's all set up so reverently - it's so that Judith's argument for an aesthestic universe avoids seeming cynical or cruel... The dynamic of that scene is amazing: the look on her face when she realises that she's right; Steve's desire not to do it and then his realisation that he must (Gethsemene II); and then Judith's plaintive, heart-breaking "don't..." as he takes the first mouthful... Because she loves the man, and he has to die too. Meep.

runce: when you're right you're right, but when you're wrong you're Wrong. I think you need to watch it again, this time with an eye on what Russel is trying to do. Mmmm.

Only two complaints spring to mind from part 2: Judith running in sloooow mooootion while her friend gets ready to top herself & the kiddies (reminded me of that bit near the end of series 2 of Buffy, though); and the slightly inevitable death of Saintly Asian Pete.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
11:54 / 12.02.03
telepathic link to runce has been set up.

I don't get you guys either.

I thought this was unspeakably bad. I only watched the first one and the best thing about that was the devil eyes.

See when I'm presented with crowd cenes where Individuals make demands of the person around whom the crowd gathered?

Gag.

Fucking embarrasssment. Ecclestone seemd dated as fuck with his preachy, exasperated shtick. Not what he should have been looking for in order to kickstart his patchy career.

I hightailed it over to 5 to catch the end of Lethal Weapon and one of the classic homme v homme screen scraps of the eighties.

'Fights in the rain....people coming out of bunkers'

Back to Coming: Most of the issues concerning morality, power, faith which may or may not have been covered in the Second Coming can be accessed in a slicker suit over on 4.

Buried.
 
 
Ganesh
12:48 / 12.02.03
Right about 'Buried', Yawn, wrong about this.

*adjusts grip on glass, glances at table edge*
 
 
Sax
14:33 / 12.02.03
It's interesting that yawn and runce, who are both the big gobs over in the comics forum (and I mean that nicely) didn't rate this. Perhaps it's because issues like this have been dealt with in comics, and possibly in a better way. But I just re-iterate what others have said - this was prime time ITV. Better than fucking Heartbeat.

And I had an interesting conversation with a woman yesterday after I made mention of the Second Coming in my newspaper column. She was a committed Christian and said that she really enjoyed it, especially at the end because it showed a really bleak, grim world without God and everyone wished they hadn't got rid of Stephen Baxter.

Which wasn't really my reading of the situation. Odd, that.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
14:59 / 12.02.03
It's not just "better than Heartbeat". It's better than lots of things.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
07:07 / 13.02.03
I love this

'better than heartbeat'

thing!
 
 
Bear
08:37 / 13.02.03
For all you people who Found it Better than Heartbeat, it's now available at Play for a tenner -

Second Coming
 
 
Sax
09:43 / 13.02.03
Flyboy, I'd even go as far as to say it was better than The Royal.
 
  

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