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Do my work for me- Top 15 PC games?

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11:05 / 04.02.03

Yep, this is a *do my work for me* thread, but it's quite a fun one too... Basically, I know sweet FA about PC games nowadays and need to compile a strictly informal list of the top games that are over a year old. Now if I had to compile the top C64 games of all time, I could do a top 100, but I haven't picked up a joystick (do the kids these days still have them, or are they laughing at my archaic innuendo?) in years, so I don't know where to start. So far I have:

1) The Sims
2) Grand Theft Auto

So, any suggestions? All help appreciated.

Love, ii.

11:33 / 04.02.03

I don't think I have played 15 computer games in my whole life. These are the ones I've played, and I really enjoyed them.

Sanitarium

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Riven.

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Diablo

And lastly...
Starcraft.

Hope it helps.

11:37 / 04.02.03

The Sims is debatable; the original GTA is nowhere near a top 15. If I had to compile mine... (and these are on enjoyability, not just seminal-ness)

Half-Life
Fallout 1/2
Planescape Torment
Deus Ex
UFO: Enemy Unknown (X-Com: Enemy Unknown outside Europe)(It's classic, it'll run on anything, never beaten)
TIE Fighter (best of a good bunch)
I-War (very, very personal niche market favourite)
Quake (and spin-offs, but much of a muchness)
Flight Simulator (seminal. sorry.)
Command and Conquer (Simple. Old. Hectic multiplayer.)
Operation Flashpoint
Metal Gear Solid (Well, I really enjoyed it)

I could go on but I really haven't played enough, and there hasn't been anything enjoyable (or that run well on my machine) since about Max Payne. And if you wanted a list of fifteen seminal, vital things, a lot of that lot would go and get replaced by stuff like Monkey Island. Which is genius.

I still think something like Half-Life, Fallout, I-War and UFO are the best games ever. UFO... god, I haven't played it in five-six years. It's so good.

11:44 / 04.02.03

Not much of a PC gamer due to hand to mouse problems but this might be helpful -

Gamespot?

Apologies if the link doesn't work it's quite a weird URL.

11:55 / 04.02.03

Civilization )
Age of Empires ) - all pretty similar but very cool
Warcraft )

I reckon X-Wing was better than TIE Fighter.

Duke Nukem 3D was a larf.

12:02 / 04.02.03

Over a year old? Ok.

1) Planescape:Torment
2) Deus Ex
3) Fallout
4) Thief
5) Warcraft 2
6) Sam and Max Hit The Road
7) Ultima IV
8) Ultima VII
9) Diablo 2
10) Wolfenstein 3D
11) Monkey Island 2
12) Day of the Tentacle
13) Descent
14) Full Throttle
15) Master of Orion 2

They were all popular in their day, and some, such as PS:T are still talked about today. Now where's my mini Mars bar?

12:07 / 04.02.03

Top of All Time for me is Civilization, along with its great sequels (up to Civ3 right now)

Other classic bests:

Doom
Warcraft
Command and Conquer
Age of Empires (II moreso than I)
Half-Life
SimCity
Rainbow Six: Rogue Spear
Castle Wolfenstien
Shogun: Total War
Medieval: Total War
Police Quest

12:13 / 04.02.03

How can you people have missed out/not played Lucasarts' fantastic Grim Fandango. Fantastically written, well acted, and for some 'inexplicable' reason the Blue Casket bar always reminds me of Barbemeets...

12:20 / 04.02.03

Painkiller. Pain. Killer.

I heartily give my support for:
Deus Ex
Fallout 1+2
Half-Life
Sam and Max Hit the Road
Monkey Island 1-4
Day of The Tentacle
Grim Fandango
Thief

and add Gabriel Knight 1+3.

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12:36 / 04.02.03

Cheers everyone! This has been super-useful.

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12:37 / 04.02.03

I'll email you all your mini mars by return of post.

love, ii.

12:40 / 04.02.03

Oops, almost forgot System Shock 2. The Many sings to us.

12:47 / 04.02.03

I forgot: Cossacks & Cossacks:The Art Of War.

13:24 / 04.02.03

Oh, and Lookingglass Studios' Thief games, especially the second one.

13:36 / 04.02.03

Civilisation II
Doom
Another World (also called Out of this World)
Command and Conquer
Quake
Worms
Monkey Island I & II
Unreal Tournament
Tony Hawk II

I can't think of any else, but they all ate large parts of my life away.

13:39 / 04.02.03

Championship Manager (various iterations) is probably one of the top 2 or 3 most popular PC games in the UK. Goes back years...

15:12 / 04.02.03

I haven't played any video games in years thank god, but..

(deep breath)

Grand Theft Auto
Worms
Day of the Tentacle
Monkey Island 2
Civ 2
Command & Conquer
Sim City 2000
Sam & Max
Full Throttle
Wolfenstein 3D
Doom
Terminal Velocity
4D Stunts Driving (about a million years old, but sheer class!)

..um, I'm starting to run dry now..

how about such deranged shareware classics as Mortal Pong, Apocalypse Cow, Revenge of the Mutant Camels and Pizza Worm? They were always fun.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

15:25 / 04.02.03

How's about just alternating Deus Ex and Half-Life for the first 14, and chucking System Shock 2 at #15?

10:04 / 05.02.03

OK the classic that spring to mind,

Planescape: Torment
System Shock 1 and 2
Master of Orion 2
UFO: Enemy Unknown
Civilisation 2
Fallout 1 and 2
Deus X (playing at the moment oooh shiney)
Command and Conquer
Worms
Lemmings
Speedball 2

Oooh and much respect to Alex Gein for reminding me of Another World
really cool game, graphics were amazing for the time, pity about the ending. The semi-sequel Flashback was better and had a very cool ending.

10:21 / 05.02.03

Well, if you're going to count the excellent Another World and Fade to Black, you can't not count Prince of Persia? Shitty story, but seminal game. (NB: Likewise you could argue Karateka, but it wasn't nearly so polished as Prince, so nah).

13:12 / 05.02.03

I forgot UFO. That was great.

And who remembers Xenon 2? Quality!

13:35 / 05.02.03

God yes, the Bitmap Brothers. That takes me back. Xenon 2, Speedball, Magic Pockets, Gods...aahhhhhh many a happy hour was spent with that Amiga 500.

14:18 / 05.02.03

Speedball 2. Hell yeah.

Ice cream! Ice cream!

21:41 / 05.02.03

Ah, Another World! I had that on the SNES. That three purpose gun rocked.
Nobody picked VirtuaTedium Living Doll's House classic 'The Sims'? For shame...

03:25 / 06.02.03

I tried the Sims for a half hour or so. After that I realised that they didn't have a city to walk around in, and went back to Civilization.
Apparently with SimCity4 you can have your Sims drive around your city and whatnot, so maybe there's hope!

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

05:29 / 06.02.03

Was The Chaos Engine ever out on the PC? Cos that was the best Amiga game ever.

08:00 / 06.02.03

Oooh and much respect to Alex Gein for reminding me of Another World
really cool game, graphics were amazing for the time, pity about the ending. The semi-sequel Flashback was better and had a very cool ending.

But didn't you think it was cool the way the cutscenes in Another World blended totally into the gameplay? And how they used camera angles as well? Its abandonware now if anyone wants to get it. I downloaded it 2 days ago, and finished it yesterday. Pure class.

I never finished flashback... it didn't hold my attention for long enough.

09:33 / 06.02.03

Yes. Another World was rock.

And yeah, Chaos Engine was on PC. It's not my favourite Bitmaps game... that's probably Speedball 2 or Gods, but that's like trying to discuss favourite Beatles albums.

13:35 / 06.02.03

Another World, yeah it was amazing the way they handled the cut scenes, first time a lot of cool filmic stuff had been tried, first time for cut scenes being animated in the game engine as well. Metal Gear Solid is a direct descendent really.

I think I finished Flashback with some hints near the end but the end rocked, I think it was the fact that it was sort of like the end to Alien and had a cool soundtrack as you faded back into the vastness of space.

Ah metioning the Chaos Engine reminds me of that I have the soundtracks of God's, The Chaos Engine, Xenon 2 and Flashback on my hard drive, will have to hunt out the link where I got them from, they're still mint

13:56 / 06.02.03

Another World Fan Club Member 53 - Yeah it was cool as was Flashback, got that for my Megadrive Emulator the other day, can't remember what happens at the end though? All I can remember is the Running Man style level..

Chaos engine, yeah got that too but though it was a bit boring maybe I didn't give it a proper chance.

Speedball, yeah another classic!

Cannon Fodder too, for the song at least

14:41 / 06.02.03

Cannon Fodder was great fun, but for some reason, I was just unbelievably bad at it.. I could never get past level#4 or something.. made me the mockery of my computer game playing friends for a few weeks.. aah, the memories..

The Return Of Rothkoid

21:10 / 06.02.03

See, I dunno why nobody mentions Lucasfilm's earlier two point-and-clickers, Maniac Mansion and Zak McKracken And The Alien Mindbenders. They were better-written than the Sierra stuff, had fantastic quality for the time (yes, I could tell that was a hamster, even in EGA) and were amazingly fun. Not that Day Of The Tentacle wasn't, but I think there was a bit more of a formulaic feel there - the original MM was superb because the writing carried it over the holes in the presentation. For my money, still the best adventure games they've done, save Monkey Island I.

21:51 / 06.02.03

Oh yeah - Cannon Fodder. So simple... the whole mouse not as point-and-click but as the actual aiming device. Sensible Soccer with guns, I tell you. Perfect.

Very hectic, too... clickfest on some of the later maps, like that one where you have to jump the fucking jeep into the fucking fucking water...

00:04 / 07.02.03

Funny thing about the Bitmaps - nobody ever mentions the original Xenon. First game I bought for the Amiga. I've got it on my hard drive, thanks to the joys of emulation, and still think it's a more enjoyable, well-balanced game than the sequel.

Although it doesn't have a Bomb the Bass soundtrack.

00:12 / 07.02.03

Cannon Fodder? oh no, my life for a week is ruined while I hunt down abandonware. And mad props to the suggestion of Maniac Mansion. I'd forgotten how prevasive the influence of that game was. Same goes for the old Populous (the first God-game i remember). Anyway, games for the mix(oddly, all pretty old):

The Neverhood (mmmm, claymation)
Dark Forces (the first, actually, both of them)
Pool of Radiance (the original)
Mechwarrior (one or two.... but the first one was way more ambitious, and influential to the genre)
Pirates! (uh, Yarr.)
Airborne Ranger (scrolling shooter with replay value and depth)

and the usual suspects: Deus Ex, Half Life, Planescape Torment, Civ1.

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