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Sax
13:50 / 06.12.01
Doesn't it strike you odd that in this pop-culture drenched world we live in, no-one has actually set themselves up as an honest-to-goodness masked vigilante? Surely there's some comic obsessive out there with enough time on his/her hands to learn various martial arts to a high degree and attain a near-perfect level of fitness and enough cash to buy loads of gizmos and flashy weapons - stun guns, that kind of thing.
Given that life is usually not shy about imitating art, it does rather surprise me that this hasn't happened. The media interest would be phenomenal, surely.
There have, of course, been the likes of The Human Fly, who was a stuntman in a crap outfit (and of course immortalised by Marvel with the memorable tagline: "The greatest superhero of them all - 'cause he's real!") and if I remember rightly from the old Crisis comic in the UK, there was a character called Superbarrioman who protected the residents of South American shanty towns dressed in wrestling gear, who was apparently based on a real figure.
But no real-life superheroes. Which does honestly surprise me, in this day and age.
 
 
Jack Fear
14:22 / 06.12.01
I give you... Terrifica!



A masked avenger is roaming New York City's bars, clubs, and streets in search of single women who may have had too much to drink, and men waiting to make their move.

Terrifica is her name, and safe swingin' is her game. Armed with pepper spray, camera, cell phone, and business cards spelling out "Terrifica" in gold letters, this urban superhero patrols New York City's singles' scene, offering intoxicated women a ride home--and a way out of a potentially dangerous situation.


A bit more info here.
 
 
Sax
14:27 / 06.12.01
Excellent. Exactly what I'm talking about. Any more?
 
 
Jack Fear
14:29 / 06.12.01
And what about Super Barrio, protector of Mexico's poor and downtrodden? In fact, Super Barrio is so popular in Mexico he's even inspired imitators...
 
 
Jack Fear
14:34 / 06.12.01
quote:Super Gay, Mexico's latest activist super hero, made his first appearance on March 3 at a demonstration symbolically closing down the Mexico City headquarters of the conservative National Action Party (PAN), which has been pushing a "family values" agenda in the cities it governs. Dressed in a black suit with a pink-edged cape and an inverted pink triangle, Super Gay follows in the tradition of the masked activists Superbarrio Goméz and Universal Superecologist, who both joined the demonstration against the PAN. Super Gay, a self-described "run of the mill" office worker, told Inter Press Service: "I will try to unite the gay community. We must keep together in order to end homophobia."

No pix, online, unfortunately.
http://www.ibiblio.org/prism/Apr97/apreye.html
 
 
Jack Fear
14:36 / 06.12.01
Justice League of Mexico, assemble!

"Initially, Super Barrio was three people who took turns donning the scarlet-and-canary tights and cape. But the role eventually fell to a corpulent candy vendor whose simple, earnest pronouncements soon captured attention. ... The popularity of Super Barrio has spawned many copycat superheroes, including: Super Animal Crusader (wears black with a gold lamé cape and eagle crest mask); Super Eco, an environmental crusader who began life as a symbol of opposition to Mexico’s nuclear-power program (wears verdant green, with yellow piping and codpiece); and El Chupacabras Crusader, who defends and avenges debt-wracked members of Mexico’s middle class (wears a fanged mask and business suit)."
 
 
The resistable rise of Reidcourchie
06:12 / 07.12.01
On a slightly darker note, there's a chap who calls himself Golden Eagle in New York. Not much details because this is a half remembered TV documentary I saw some years ago. Ex-cop who wears a black sued jacket with an embroidered golden eagle on the back. Doesn't go masked, does carry a gun. Strictly speaking he should be more in the Charley Bronson school of thought except in the interview he mentioned comics as inspiring him.

Nice to see supehero iconography put to good use in Mexico.
 
 
The Natural Way
08:16 / 07.12.01
But surely.... Did you never read Crisis (and I don't mean the "men in pants" one)? Super Barrio's been around for years.
 
 
Sax
08:29 / 07.12.01
I think I'm going to write a feature on this.
 
 
deja_vroom
08:53 / 07.12.01
Sax, please do.

Back to topic, these people aren't fighting crime, they're just using the super-hero image as a marketing tool, they go to parades, make speeches... whre are the insane people that will jump from building to building and get their capes jammed in revolving bank doors and then shot in their heads? (Hey, Dollar Bill!)
 
 
Lionheart
15:31 / 07.12.01
I don't believe in capes. now cloaks are a different story.
 
 
Saint Keggers
04:11 / 08.12.01
I fight crime in my own special way..I stopped stealing...but Ive yet to come up with the perfect costume.
 
 
Naked Flame
13:31 / 08.12.01
we're all superheroes really... just gotta try and remember that magic word...
 
 
rizla mission
11:42 / 10.12.01
this is pretty cool.

seems to be all the rage in Mexico.

do you think Super Barrio inspired Super Mario in some bizarre way?

Presumably the lack of genuine, proper, superhero people comes down to the fact that it would be a)a highly impractical way of fighting crime b)probably illegal and c)make even the coolest human being look like a complete fool.
 
 
deja_vroom
12:01 / 10.12.01
Rizla... think twice.
 
 
deja_vroom
12:05 / 10.12.01
or thrice.
 
 
The Damned Yankee
13:14 / 10.12.01
Originally posted by Impostor de Jade: Rizla... think twice.

Yikes!

Let's face it: Superheroes look silly. It takes bullets actually bouncing off of you or a few blasts of heat vision to actually impress the punters.
 
 
belbin
19:47 / 10.12.01
Some practical points here:
- Colourfully-hued lycra isn't the most discrete way of blending into the background when tracking criminals
- People don't have superpowers
- Most crime is carried out by ordinary ciminals - not guys with lasers trying to take over the world (unless you count Osama that is)

All the examples here (with their media hype) are similar to the "revisionist" superhero stories: DK, Watchmen, Authority, etc. Why?

Because this is fucking fiction, godamit! We don't live in the Silver Age.

You might as well ask why all private eyes aren't worldweary alkies with women trouble.
 
 
grant
18:16 / 11.12.01
That and everyone apt to put on a suit to fight crime is more likely to write about it first, before taking that final step into the city as a caped crusader.

"This American Life" radio show did a piece a few weeks back on a guy who regularly goes out dressed as Superman. The segment producer discovered him when he sat next to him on a plane trip. It's a gorgeous, touching piece (I'm not making that up), and can be heard here, along with a written description.
Once you get to why the guy wears the suit... well, it's lovely and pathetic all at once.

While on the site:
This show features Chris Ware talking about superheroes, followed by a woman who turned herself into a real-life superhero. She had a checklist of skills she mastered, had a run-in with the CIA. Works as a private investigator. Next internview is with the guy who runs the "Gone and Forgotten" website.
Check it out.
 
 
Torquemada
08:54 / 08.10.02
A real 'crimefighter' or 'super'-hero would have to be a complete secret - you'd get arrested for being a vigilante.

Which means a real 'super-hero' would look just like everyone else, for their own safety. You'd also never hear of them - they'd be busy protecting/ punishing people, not appearing on David Letterman and the like (although in one story the Joker actually did this - and the audience quite literally dies laughing).

Also look at how Batman developed. In the early days, he just knocked criminals out and dropped them off at the police station. By the time of Dark Knight, not only does he directly dish out justice/ torture/ death, but relishes the prospect too.

The most realistic depiction of superheroes I've read is Watchmen - unfortunately, it's by Alan Moore, which means even the happiest characters are depressed (can anyone name a HAPPY Alan Moore story? There must be one out there). Every 'what-if-it-was-real' super-hero story so far has the public envying/hating the character, which I'm not sure would always be the case.

Just my twopennys.
 
 
Cubby
19:06 / 12.10.02
I think something to bear in mind is that the mindset of the profesional vigilante is not a healthy one: So, we're looking for some one who dresses either ceremonially or simply to frighten, and then goes out to punish evil.

Wasn't that Zodiac? Jack the Ripper probably thought of himself akin to a Dark Night.

Oh, and Torquemada, don't forget that in the original Batman stories, the villans had a tendency to die...
 
 
Cubby
20:11 / 14.10.02
In support of my point:

http://www.fortunecity.com/petparade/persian/158/home.htm
 
 
The Natural Way
09:15 / 15.10.02
Off topic:

Torq - depressed? what? happy? yes...lots... There's lots of "happy" stuff about Watchmen. God, reducing Moore to a "dark ennui of being" depressoid.... whatever next?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
09:31 / 15.10.02
Maxwell the Magic Cat. Maxwell the Magic Fucking Cat. Any further discussion of Alan Moore not tied into the construction of the modern vigilante will be moderated.
 
 
The Natural Way
10:46 / 15.10.02
Moderate away.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
14:11 / 15.10.02
Right. So.

IT seems the argument being advanced is that the presentation skills for being a vigilante (unobtrusive) and being a "superhero" (obtrusive) are mutually incompatible.

Therefore, the "superhero" iconography is instead used to advance causes - the South American examples may perhaps be balanced by our own Captain Euro, the official superhero of European Monetary Union.

Soooo....that leaves the *other* kind of superhero, the shadowy avenger whose very existence is uncertain. Batman, the Punisher...driven men who take to the shadows to wage a war against evil.

Which does indeed sound a lot like serial killers.

So, is the mistake we are making that the statement should not be "there are no costumed characters fighting crime", but "comic books tend to portray costumed characters *only* as fighting crime, when in fact they are better suited to espousing causes (which, say, Captain America does, but generally more in a "don't give up the day job" way), endorsing products and doing other things, much as in films secret agents usually have far more fight-packed lives than is usual or healthy".

And thus, is the "real-life" superhero like Super Barrio parasitic on the culture of comic books (and superhuman wrestlers), or is there something more symbiotic going on?
 
 
Torquemada
23:28 / 22.10.02
Read something a while back ago that claimed that Superheroes were invented to give a beleagered public a feeling of empowerment, that somewhere absolute justice was being dealt out, even if it wasn't true (the article noted that these heroes started appearing at a time when the public were tired of corruption and needed uncorruptible symbols of justice). Hence (as Haus mentioned) 50 years later we have Superman warning kiddies of smoking, etc.

The 'real-life' superheroes (wrestlers and the like) seem to operate on a middle-ground - they have good guys & bad, but no-one gets hurt.

...which (I think) makes the most realistic 'other' crimefighter something like Rorschach from Watchmen.

The line between 'serial killer' and this sort of superhero is indeed already blurry....think Travis Bickle or (from real life) Mark 'Chopper' Read - psychos who both killed low-life-scum and became public heroes, in spite of the fact that their original intentions were far from public spirited.

Until recently I'd wondered why the above hadn't appeared already - life imitating TV, etc. - but one reason that you *won't* see the above any more (in London at any rate) is the arrival of CCTV - very hard to move in the shadows, etc. and be unseen when you're under 24hr surveillance...('is this your cape, sir?' etc.)
 
 
Jack Fear
12:04 / 06.05.03
Bumping this...

There's a new caped crusader patrolling the mean streets of ... um ...

Tunbridge Wells.

A masked and caped do-gooder has been sweeping through an English town, performing good deeds and scattering terrified bad guys, a local newspaper reported on Friday.

The Kent and Sussex Courier said it had received letters from "stunned residents" ... who saw the man in a brown mask and cape scare off hooligans and return a woman's dropped purse.

"To my great surprise," the paper quoted 21-year-old psychology student Ellen Neville as saying, "a masked man wearing a brown cape rushed past me to assist a woman who was having a bother with a group of youths.

"He swept in, broke up the commotion and ran off, leaving myself and the woman in a state of shock," she said.

A man wrote to say he was being chased by some youths when the hero appeared and "shocked the gang so much they ran off."

Another woman wrote to say the crusader had tapped her on her shoulder to return her purse.

"If only there were more people around with this kind-hearted spirit," she said.
 
 
Spaniel
12:52 / 16.05.03
I prefer my link.

Is it just me, or does anyone else think Terrifica is a rather dodgy idea?
 
 
Sax
14:42 / 29.05.03
Did anyone see that Spa Man of Tunbridge Wells turned out to be a hoax? Well, he was always a hoax in that he wasn't really a super-hero, but all the letters written about his good deeds were fakes penned by pals.

I feel unaccountably disappointed.

But his pink and brown costume was rather... visceral.
 
 
_Boboss
10:34 / 30.05.03
in the pub it was decided that the hoaxer is a hoax, and the superman is real. in the movies where they do red dots on a map to show the geographical patternn of the baddy's attacks. if you did that in this case the reports of tunbridge man would 'coincidentally' centre around the street where panini have their offices, uk reprinters of ultimate marvel guff. convinced?
 
 
Sax
07:43 / 03.06.03
Hooray! Now we can all be super-heroes! Or at least people who climb walls!
 
 
Mirror
19:26 / 03.06.03
Damn and blast that gecko-tech! There goes my monopoly over the vertical world.
 
 
Spyder Todd 2008
23:36 / 10.06.03
If I were to say that I was genuinely interested in becoming a masked vigilante type, what would you have to say?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
13:07 / 11.06.03
Get therapy. Lots of therapy.
 
  

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