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Is all emotion relative?

 
 
schwantz
18:36 / 05.12.02
My friend and I were talking about this, and I thought that you folks might have some interesting thoughts. I was reminded of this conversation while reading the topic about pulling one's self out of depression. Mary-Sue's line (from her mom's boyfriend) "Cheer up, kid, you could've been born in Vietnam" really sums it up.

It seems to me that our emotional extremes are somewhat fixed, in terms of their psychological and physical effects on ourselves. However, the range of issues we have to process is extremely variable. This is why you see starving children with smiles on their faces, and you see people crying in the streets over the death of JFK Jr.

Another example. My fiance never really had what most of us would consider "major" trauma in her childhood. No parental deaths, or molestation, or homelessness. However, what she remembers as the worst moments, and the most traumatic, were the deaths of her pets. Now, I would imagine it would almost be embarrasing to talk to a therapist about how the deaths of your kitties as a child has haunted you, but wouldn't we also agree that the depth of emotion that my fiance felt as a child when her cats died was real, and powerful?

Another issue with this: because we seem to have a fixed range of emotional feeling, regardless of circumstances, isn't that a little troubling? If you can get the same basic level of satisfaction from scoring tickets to the first showing of the Two Towers as you can from finding the cure to cancer, what pushes you to acheive "real" goals, etc?

And on the flip side, why bother with trying to find some higher, noble cause to work on, when you aren't going to get any more "real" psychological reward from it?
 
 
The Apple-Picker
21:17 / 05.12.02
The emotions of a friend who has only been devastated by the loss of pets are no less real than the emotions of someone whose family has been wiped out. Her experience is limited. Same with the woopee, be it for getting those tickets or a great discovery.

Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "we seem to have a fixed range of emotional feeling." We as in all humans share this fixed range? Or we as in every individual has his own fixed range, and then realigns his experiences to the appropriate degree based on new experiences? How does it seem so? Is this your opinion? Has there been a study? Please elaborate.

When horizons expand, perhaps the returns on the "psychological reward" are not so great for the local act just because one knows that bigger and better things can be done, so the returns for the local act are internally restrained with that knowledge in mind. The motive for a broad and far-reaching act is strong still because the rewards are perceived to be greater. (I think quite a bit of this "why would anyone want to do anything great, anyway" question has a lot to do with what anyone thinks he can do. If someone doesn't believe that he can find the cure for cancer, he's not likely to try. He's likely to make himself content with the tickets.)

Also, perhaps knowing that the returns are won through selfish behavior makes the reward feel impure in comparison to returns won through noble behavior. That could then lessen the pleasure in the former case.

Sometimes the acheivement of one of those big goals that seems so noble was made through selfishness, desire for fame, desire for control, other kinds of behavior that we wouldn't really call "noble." Personal rewards do affect global rewards, but personal rewards can greatly rely on how broad one's horizons are--that's what I'll draw from your statement on Two Towers tickets vs. cancer cure.

Then you're kind of down to the question of which is more important, motive or effect?

Read Daniel Deronda, by George Eliot; it's relevant. I realize it was written over a hundred years ago, but I only just read it. Because I'm so freakin' in love with this book, I'm really going to have to refrain from pimping it everywhere. It's not a complete success, but the partial failure is kind of what makes the novel rock so hard, too.
 
 
Jub
09:56 / 06.12.02
"It is better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a pig satisfied."
- John Stuart Mill
 
 
woodswalker
10:47 / 06.12.02
For the most part my emotions are a presentation to the world of how I expect them to treat me during this, my latest whatever...happiness or sorrow. My internal emotions run the gamut from joy to anger to sorrow, but only in quick bursts. Mainly there is eqilibrium. Equanimity. I think I have learned to exaggerate and act out these feelings in order to communicate.
 
  
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