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Timewave Zero

 
 
Tamayyurt
23:51 / 01.12.02
Can somebody please explain what Timewave Zero is and what exactly is Terrence McKenna's theory concerning 2012 and the end on the world as we know it?
 
 
arcboi
00:12 / 02.12.02
Timewave Zero was derived from Terence McKenna's research into the I Ching. Working with his brother Dennis, they discovered a pattern that suggested that time could be mapped. This idea was developed into a computer program that displays these time maps.

The maps apparently demonstrated that novelty was decreasing and that it would reach zero on December 21, 2012. McKenna describes it as being pulled towards "a complex attractor that exists ahead of us in time".

More info via this Terrance McKenna website
 
 
Tamayyurt
00:36 / 02.12.02
But what is meant by: "novelty was decreasing"?
 
 
Tamayyurt
01:46 / 02.12.02
Actually, I've figured it out. Thanks for the link arcboi. Do you know where I can get a Novelty Report for 2003?
 
 
Papess
02:49 / 02.12.02
I just happened on this page and I thought it may be of interest to you Imp.
 
 
Sebastian
11:40 / 02.12.02
May, that page is impressive. Even though I've been getting sick of web crap, this one has managed to stimulat my senses. I spotted an excerpt from a book titled Psychedelic Shamanism at The Entities of The Imaginal Realm: Part 1 that should be interesting. Well, it should be.
 
 
grant
16:30 / 02.12.02
Jim DeKorne, right?
Love that book. Never successfully replicated his recipes, but I love that intro part.
Oh wait - just read the link. Nevermind. Whole different kettle of fish.

impulsivelad: "Novelty was decreasing" refers to what the I Ching actually measures -- changes. In information theory, the level of change in a system is referred to as "novelty." For McKenna & the Timewave people, the level of novelty is seen as describing the relative significance of events within the information system of the Universe. The origin of matter & energy from non-matter (the Big Bang), that's a major change -- the first big upswing in novelty.

One of the flaws with the Timewave is that they attempt to map novelty across human history, with specific peaks and troughs assigned to things like the crucifixion of Christ, the Dark Ages and the Great Depression. It's a bit -centric (as in Earth, Western Civilization, Europe, America... you name it). Admnittedly, that's the only filter we've got to perceive a lot of this stuff, but still - why would people on Rigel IV care about the Black Death or the Vietnam War?

Maybe there's an implied causation, like inventors run out of ideas and people are less inclined to trade on the stock market when the universe's novelty level drops - since information is universal. Or maybe, because it's the I Ching, it's an Earth-centric measure to begin with (but I kind of doubt that).
 
 
Wrecks City-Zen
18:13 / 02.12.02
What a great site May!Thanks!
 
 
Sebastian
18:19 / 02.12.02
It's a bit -centric (as in Earth, Western Civilization, Europe, America... you name it)

I agree with Grant, although this became obvious for me after I dwelled on the thing after a while. Obviously, the time-line traced does not represent novelty "in the universe" but rather in the nutty-shaggy mind of the perceptor that registers it as novelty.

I think it represents the dead-end of linear-western thought, or the linear-western mind, I would prefer to say, a space-time moment, or a particular location in the "texture of awareness", in which our precious collective western linear mind has simply no reason to define itself as such, the glorious moment in which the opinions and musings of a nobel prize have no more validity than that of a watuzi native or an australian aborigin, the day when every westerner will be assured that newspapers feature as much bullshit as the gossips of the lady next door. History, in big capital letters, as school teachers think of it, will be useless, with nothing to sustain it, and even without a legendary flavor against other stories.

I wonder whatever a newspaper will put into its pages that day.
 
 
Tamayyurt
02:13 / 03.12.02
That sounds brillaint, any ideas as to how that might come about, Sebastian?
 
 
Papess
03:10 / 03.12.02
That is spectacular Sebastian. I even had a tea mid-sentence.

(teasing of course! )



Way to rip the veil off baby!
 
 
Tamayyurt
05:12 / 03.12.02
Oh and May, I forgot to mention how much I love the site.
 
 
Sebastian
12:40 / 03.12.02
Keep an eye on The Anomalist and Fortean Times. They have a section of "fortean" news from all around the world. Some of those news herald the proximate debunking of many scientific and historical paradigms: sunken cities thought to be legends are being discovered, mummies in Egypt have cocaine in their noses, pre-conquest mummies here in south america have been found to have tuberculosis in the vertebra which were not supposed to have had until the spanish came, quantum mechanics is permeating more and more of the thought trends in physics, more serious and critical clinical trials are being run on some sorts of new-agey therapy, even now the famous moon-landing is being critically examined and critically reconfirmed, and so on.

In sum, western knowledge has to adjust more and more to this "positive" feedback, which comes in terms of experience, data, information, reports. Negative feedback is that which supports and stabilises the system: more of the same, positive feddback is that which destabilises it, new info that challenges the old one: This is NOT that, an Electron Is Not a Particle and Is not a Wave, and thus requires dealing with to redefine the system, simply because it hampers its defintions. The critical threshold is reached then when the system has to literally define its root identifications, beliefs, call it what you like, which is called a state of chaos, the System Is Not The System, and then becomes to Be Something Else. I don't care whether it'll happen in 10 or 20 years.

A good termomether of this positive feedback is somehting that to my knowlwedge went unlooked by McKenna and is indeed very difficult to measure: Language. Think about it. How many new words are being spawned on a weekly basis, either them from a popular environemnt or an academic one or from the very streets? How many words do you know today that your parents haven't even dream about at the time you were born?

Language as we know it will have zillions of new terms from here to ten years to come, dictionaries will hardly keep thapace, as they are already loosing it, as more words and terms are borned to define new events, experiences and perceptions. And this of course, has a neurological correlation. We'll be all nuts to the eyes of the neighbor. What today are cross cultural differences will predate inter personal relationships inside of what used to be western culture. Our own individual minds will have no reason to believe in the dabblings of a Darwin or an Einstein, and collectively this will swarm nations. Control freaks will be having fits in the streets, as others more flexible and adaptative will be reconnecting to the roots of the human specie.

Oh, its just another roll of the dices.
 
  
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