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London graves to be destroyed by Chunnel link.

 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
21:42 / 01.12.02
Eek.

More than 1,000 graves are being destroyed by contractors building the King's Cross Channel Tunnel terminal in what has been called "a desecration" and "an outrage against human dignity."

Archaeologists have been suddenly ordered off the site at Camley Street Cemetery, St Pancras, after excavating just 100 of the estimated 2,000 graves. The Channel Tunnel Rail Link company (CTRL) will now move in to start digging them out in bulk.


Any thoughts? I know relocation of cemetaries is fairly common - cue Poltergeist-style thoughts - but what do people think about this? Deadlines taking precedence over proper treatment of the dead? Or merely worm-food to be shunted?
 
 
bjacques
08:10 / 02.12.02
Save the cool-looking tombs for goth photography students, scrap the rest and ship the dust to consecrated ground elsewhere. The Dutch have shifted remains so many times they've lost count, because there's just no room. Anyway, I'm sick of having to change trains from Waterloo. The workers should show a little respect. Some diggers see a skull and suddenly they're David Beckham.
 
 
Shortfatdyke
11:44 / 02.12.02
"Some diggers see a skull and suddenly they're David Beckham"

My turn to go eek!. I'm rather torn over this. Cemetaries can be beautiful places, and the graves are, I think, around 150 years old. Does that make it okay to move them, knowing that their immediate relatives and loved ones are also dead? I, too, have worries over the architecture, which I think must be preserved, but I can also see the sense of having a Eurostar terminal at Kings Cross.

So I don't really know where I'm at on this one. But at the very least, it could be done with a bit more sensitivity.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
16:52 / 02.12.02
Well, if the dead complain, I'd be willing to listen to their opinion but otherwise, plow it over.

It doesn't matter, after a few years there's little left of you to call human anyway. If you believe that your remains have got to stay in one piece for when the Day of Judgement arives, that's suggesting that God is going to say "Bugger, it's beyond even My power to put these people back together, it's off to Hell for them!".
 
 
William Sack
11:56 / 03.12.02
How bizarre. My wife works for the Department of Transport (or whatever it's called these days - it changes every 5 minutes) and most of her workload is Chunnel related, and she has heard nothing of this. I'll email her the link.

I thought we didn't plough up our cemetaries in London, but rather flogged them off for 5p each.
 
 
Fist of Fun
06:21 / 04.12.02
Whatever they do to the graves, it cannot be worse than what happened back in the 1700's and 1800's when cemeteries got overcrowded. Purely coincidentally the St Pancras one (or, at least, the St Pancras cemetery next to the Hospital for Tropical Diseases) was created after the old one became so overcrowded it was actually dangerous. Some poor old biddy was killed when a coffin burst out of an emankment after the putrid body expanded too much... (see Ackroyd's Biography of London or Roy Porter's Social History of London for all your gory details!) They had limbs sticking out of the earth, the whole shebang.

After the exploding coffin incident they had some sort of resorting business whereby old graves were re-located but, as far as I can tell, the entire job consisted of just piling up earth and remains in carts and moving them to a big pit just outside London as it then was - so nothing really changes in some ways.

Purely for interest's sake, it turns out that the problem of overcrowding in urban cemeteries explains the fact I used to puzzle over - all those old tombstones right up against the wall of a cemetery. Where was the body, I used to think, when there is no room between the headstone and the wall? Probably being used as building rubble, came the answer, as the stones had only been moved there on the bodies etc. being moved elsewhere.
 
 
Shortfatdyke
12:03 / 04.12.02
Interesting stuff! I must admit to being keen on saving the architecture, rather than whatever reamins are left. I don't understand the sudden interest in keeping to deadlines, however...
 
  
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