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Renaissance-y Historical Fiction/Research?

 
 
Perfect Tommy
18:03 / 26.11.02
I got the germ of a zygote of a nucleus of an idea for a story. The problem is that I don't really know anything about (1) the setting, or (2) the genre. I want to do some sort of high society, political/social intrigue story, perhaps with a dash of swashbuckling and derring-do. Maybe the Borgias? Guy Fawkes? Maybe "that thing with Cromwell and the restoration of the monarchy"--see, I don't even know if there's a name for that period of English history, goddamn American public education system--

For flavor via the cinematic route, I figure I should go watch Elizabeth and Dangerous Liaisons again, and Restoration for the first time, unless it's shit. And as for reading, Alexander Dumas and... uh...

help
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
18:39 / 26.11.02
Maybe "that thing with Cromwell and the restoration of the monarchy"

The Civil War, the Commonwealth and Protectorate and the Restoration (covering the 1640s to 1688, which is the Glorious Revolution).

Well, apart from the Borgias, all the stuff you've mentioned there is seventeenth century (I think Dangerous Liaisons may even have a C18 setting), which I don't think counts as Renaissance per se (though obviously the Restoration is a moveable feast depending on where you are in Europe).

Having said that, the seventeenth century is just as good (if not better) for high society and political intrigue as the Renaissance, and you might find it easier to find source material - there's Dumas as you say, for starters. Not a great deal of contemporary fiction (apart from Don Quixote) but you can find some historical stuff, and the later you go the more there is. There's also a bunch of popular history on the Restoration period at the moment - you might like High Life, Low Morals by Victor Stater, lots of dastardly deeds in that one. Jacobitism might also be fruitful, though it's a bit later still. You could look into James VI and I and his favourite, the Duke of Buckingham - that was scandalous.

Renaissance topics - the popes (Memoirs of a Gnostic Dwarf?) might be worth looking into, or there's the Medici family - though the Borgias are probably the most famous. Or Elizabeth and Essex? There's an accessible biography by Lytton Strachey whcih might be a starting point.

I'm basically burbling because you've given such a wide remit, sorry. If you could be a bit more specific I could probably be more helpful, this *is* about my period and I can probably point to some decent starting points for historical research for you (historical fiction is a bit more tricky - there is a thread on it somewhere if you dig around). If you can find it, you might have a look at Hugh Williamson's Who was the Man in the Iron Mask, and other historical mysteries - I think it's a bit cracked, but it's certainly entertaining...
 
 
grant
19:56 / 26.11.02
Dude.

Corsairs.

Y'know, like... Pirates!
 
 
Perfect Tommy
20:36 / 26.11.02
(I'm saving my piracy story for 1500s China, grant.)

Your burbling is perfect, Kit-Cat... this is the research I need to do before I can even decide exactly when (and exactly what) the story is.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
21:16 / 26.11.02
It's be worth keeping Frances Yates in mind. If you're looking for something that's got a bit of esoteric stuff in it, she's the one - has written widely (and with some rigour) on the religion/magic/spiritualism of the time. Depending, of course, if you want to bring John Dee into it - The Queen's Magician (?) by Benjamin Woolley is great, as is - in a different way - The House Of Doctor Dee by Peter Ackroyd...
 
 
invisible_al
08:02 / 27.11.02
The Queens Conjuror, a cracking book on John Dee and Elizabethan England. If you want another look at Elizabethan England, try Big Chief Elizabeth, the story of England's colonization of the americas and what an absoulte shambles it was at the start. Also has the full story on the Roanoke Mystery, won't spoil it as it's a great story.

As for films Elizabeth is a given but Orlando is also good for the period, suppose you could read the book as well
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
09:30 / 27.11.02
Dang. I knew I'd buggered the title, but I couldn't think how...
 
 
Persephone
12:26 / 27.11.02
Restoration is truly awful, in which Meg Ryan expresses madness by having frizzy hair. Curiously though, I do feel that having seen it has enriched my mind.

I'm no historian, but I think that you can't go wrong with The Three Musketeers --really a thrilling read and has everything. I'm starting on The Count of Monte Cristo, so I can let you know how that goes.
 
  
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