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Anyone here ever sell drugs for a living?

03:15 / 06.08.01

I have this friend who has been debating on wether or not to start selling a little marajuana to make an extra dollar or two. Now spare me the afternoon school special message and let me hear some real examples or advice.

06:05 / 06.08.01

A friend and I used to run a little partnership, but it was pretty low key. We sold mostly to friends and acquaintances, and if we started getting unknowns at the door saying, "Hi, I am a friend of so and so" then we'd turn them away, and pull in the reins a bit. Basically we did it for the free eighths, and we always had a fiver or a ten spot if we needed to go to the movies, out for a beer, etc. Sometimes we'd have "business" lunches on the partnership's tab. It was all good, but we were really careful. The cops came to our door a couple of times, but they were always looking for our drunken neighbour.

It's good to keep out of the bigger deals 'cause that is when things get serious quick. So, if your pal wants to do it as an extra and not as a living, then it should be OK. Also, stick with the greens, and avoid the harder stuff 'cause much of that shit is really bad for people anyway.

Don't know if this helps...anything else?

Blank Faced Avatar

10:00 / 06.08.01

Dealing is a full time job. In this benighted anti-drug society, a dealer is performing a job which, in a sane world, would be done by a medical doctor with a surgery, a psychologist with offices, a shopkeeper with a commercial outlet, a debt collector, an accountant, a secretary and a coherent supply/distribution network - probably a few of each, in fact.

Make no mistake, drug dealers are juggling a lot of live issues. Its a public sevice post and much of the work is unpaid. You're on call with no allowances; people are relying on you. It can be fun & make you a social focus, but it is a vocation - be a dealer if you must.

[ 06-08-2001: Message edited by: the Humble Crab ]

15:11 / 06.08.01

Well ultimately you are running a business with your friends as your main clients. In other words you are asking for trouble and paranoia.

On top of which, if you start getting high on your own supply, that paranoia ain't going to decrease.

Frankly, as a job description it kinda sucks.

The few serious drug dealers I know who do this for (a very profitable) living (i.e. coke pushers) are charming but utterly ruthless. These are not people you cross lightly.

ephemerat/crab> well put guys.

18:21 / 06.08.01

I've never really dealt, mind you, but I have been in a position on several occasions when I was holding and my acquaintances weren't, and did get paid for handing along the goodies. (Once I paid for my share of a hotel suite at a college reunion with Ecstasy; I'm so straight-edge whitebread in other ways, the notion still tickles me).

The advice I followed, and which the people I bought from and sold to followed, was this: don't deal with anyone other than friends. This is probably part of the reason why I've been so emptyhanded for the last couple years, but then again, I also had a chance to run into an old friend recently who'd just gotten out of prison.

He'd lost some weight. Was very hard to recognize.

No thanks, officer.

Also: looking really straight and well-adjusted helps avoid hassles. I've carried all kinds of weird shit through airports, and I only get searched when my hair is long and I've had a cold, or else when I'm wearing some sort of obvious subculture tag: military surplus clothes, jeans with holes in the knees, or a black suit with a bolo tie.

07:58 / 07.08.01

Ahhh...that really depends on the area you're living in, I think Brixton is testing the new tolerance policy at the moment. Other parts of the UK have their own policies and policing priorities.

Also I think the new drugs policy is aimed more towards users rather than dealers.
If they catch you with a 9bar they will still prosecute.

04:45 / 08.08.01

Bute then again drug dealers ARE salespeople. Sort of.

Is your friend good at talking to people? Is he or she somewhat of a charming sociopath? Can he or she negotiate?

07:10 / 08.08.01

And can we move this thread out of the sodding Head Shop?

22:49 / 08.08.01

Right around the same time this post went up, an acquaintance of mine asked me for some advice regarding whether or not to get out of the business. I told him that even though the money is good, unless you're going career (which his father has actually done, but more on that later) you're gonna be living in a unbalanced way if you really get into it and wqant to back out and get a "real" job. I'd rather see him do volunteer work other the way he's been leaning lately.

I'm just looking at it from the whole risk assessment arena and not into "if it's a good or bad thing" as I do drugs from time to time, but to get caught, is to fuck up some things in your life that aren't usually seen in it's full scope. Plus, in this kid's case, his Dad's 2 of 3 (US policy) with the authorities and he could bring heat back home. That might mean seeing your daddy in prison till he's no more if he's found out again (3 for 3 = strike out).

But other than this example, I've had good and bad experiences with friends and this. I say go with the consensus and do the low-brow drugs (weed) and sell to friends if that's the propensity.

Von Neumann Drum Machine

12:01 / 09.08.01

'considered it, but didn't want to jeapordize my amateur status for the Olympics.

12:46 / 09.08.01

And can we move this thread out of the sodding Head Shop? – Armchair Subversive

I agree. This belongs in Conversation.

22:45 / 14.08.01

I've got to say that some of you are starting to sound like control freak authority tits.

14:54 / 15.08.01

quote:Originally posted by Rage:
I've got to say that some of you are starting to sound like control freak authority tits.

More like librarians.

foolish fat finger

22:37 / 27.05.06

felt like flippin this one upside cos it interests me...

I never sold drugs for a living. but, it's a long story really... I had an experience that changed me. well, I was selling some homegrown pot plants from my greenhouse, but it got a bit out of hand. Manchester, 1989, y'know... the police had just seized a record shipment of dope comin into the UK, and on the other end of the scale, there's me with me little greenhouse full of pot plants... join the dots...

Less searchable M0rd4nt

23:28 / 27.05.06

Oh, did Blank Faced Avatar used to be The Humble Crab? Well I never.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

11:39 / 28.05.06

I had a brief period of speed dealing years ago- I was rubbish at it. We'd be shifting a few ounces every fortnight, and I made sod all profit (even with the huuuge markup on amphetamines)- I kept doing some myself, then just giving it away cos I felt so good. Eventually I started going a bit nuts, so I knocked it on the head.

12:15 / 28.05.06

The phone calls in the middle of the night got me... "What?? You want a 50 bag? and you ring me now? Fuck off man, please..." Ad nauseum ad infinitum... sad work really...

20:35 / 28.05.06

p.s. I can't believe no-one twigged at the time, but Jacky D's 'friend' is totally Jacky D. Did you take it up then, Denfeld?

22:02 / 28.05.06

Don't sell the drug as a dealer its to much hastle, phone calls, lay on's as well as the problem of getting known for it and strangers knocking at your door.

Tell your friend to look into growing it indoors, then all he has to do is just pass it on to a single buyer who will then in turn sell it on. You only have to grow a very small amount to help with your bills 4-10 plants at most. I do not know the USA laws but in the UK you will probably not serve time if you are caught with 10 or less small plants (assuming you are not dumb enought to have scales and bags in your house)

There are many websites on the internet that contain all the information you need to grow indoors.

23:22 / 28.05.06

Slightly O/T, but I've always heard that homegrown stuff is low quality. How true is that?

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

23:42 / 28.05.06

Depends entirely on who grew it and how.

00:32 / 29.05.06

I've had some homehrown that was euphoric. The homegrown I sold to support my music habit was crap. The selling was a pain in the butt and I ended up getting stiffed by a "friend." Every now and then I get the clever idea to turn $500 into $750 quickly, but then I remember how much fun it wasn't last time.

02:28 / 29.05.06

Home grown is the only reliable way to get high quality stuff as long as you know what you are doing.

The low quality cheap bars of solid that are sold in the UK are poison, containing such things as beeswax, boot polish, animal turds, turpentine, henna, ground coffee, milk powder, pine resin, barbiturates, ketamine, aspirin, glues & dyes, Carcinogenic solvents such as Toluene and Benzene and many other unidentified and possibly DEADLY chemicals.

DANGERS of smoking bad quality hash

The following is taken from RED EYE EXPRESS issue NINE

Many other and more dangerous substances can be added during the preparation of this so-called hash. The reason why it is made and why it is sold is profit. Those who pollute and destroy real cannabis in this way are turning a highly beneficial and natural plant product into a health-destroying bad substance. You may get a 'hit' out of it, but it is not cannabis.

Those who sell such substances are either ignorant of real cannabis and its effects or they guilty of selling you poisons, ripping you off, and giving cannabis a bad name. Those people should be avoided - it is better to smoke nothing than to smoke the bad soap bars. After legalisation, those people will be prosecuted and may be put out of business in the same way as a publican who sells beer with dog's urine added to it.

02:51 / 29.05.06

p.s. I can't believe no-one twigged at the time, but Jacky D's 'friend' is totally Jacky D. Did you take it up then, Denfeld?
Naw. I came into a small amount by accident, and figured if I was any good at sellin' it that maybe I could sell some more, but I had no clue what I was doin', sold a miniscule amount to some guys and gave the rest to friends. I don't partake in the stuff myself really (marajuana).