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Josephine Smith Released

 
 
Shortfatdyke
10:55 / 05.11.02
Another victory for Justice for Women.

Josephine Smith was sentenced to life for murder, after she shot her husband dead. He'd abused her for years and threatened to track her down if she ever left him. She had the charge of murder reduced to manslaughter due to 'culmutive provocation', something Justice for Women have been working on in a lot of these cases. Smith has served nine years.

There's still a long way to go for the English justice system to understand domestic violence. I still hear too many people who should know better saying 'what's the problem? she should have just left him'. It doesn't work like that - the door can be wide open, but a person can still be a prisoner. Anyway, not sure how people can add to this thread, I wanted to say it's a good result.

Prevention, of course, is better than cure. Having recently seen a young mother deliberately and visibly treating her son much more favourably than her daughter, I can see the cycle just going on and on....
 
 
Slim
13:34 / 05.11.02
Did she turn to the police to get help before she shot him or after years of abuse did she simply snap one day and off the bastard?
 
 
Shortfatdyke
14:52 / 05.11.02
As far as I know, she didn't go to the police. This from an article in the Guardian about a year ago, gives an idea of the situation she was in:

"During her trial, the court heard that Smith had subjected his wife to years of physical and mental abuse. He monitored her car mileage and telephone calls; he forced her to carry out sexual acts depicted in pornographic videos found by police at their home; and he beat her - she hid her bruises beneath make-up and polo-neck sweaters. She had tried to leave him before, but he threatened to track her down and kill the children rather than allow her to go."

I'd guess she was too afraid to go to the police - unless they could arrest him and keep him away from her and the children, then it would've been too risky. So I would expect she snapped. Of course, serving nine years after however long she'd suffered the abuse doesn't seem like a massive victory. It's a slow road.
 
 
Slim
18:00 / 05.11.02
Nine years is a hell of a stiff penalty considering that they have proof of how badly she was abused. Do you think she deserved to do any time for what she did or should the abuse count as just cause for the killing? I'd also like to know if she killed him while she was being abused or if she shot him while he was asleep, for instance.
 
 
Fist of Fun
13:23 / 06.11.02
Interesting summary of the case and JFW here:
http://innocent.org.uk/misc/jfw.html

It appears she shot him whilst he was asleep. No mention of whether she went to the police in the past, but I doubt it as the prosecution appear to have said she exagerated or made up her claims of rape and abuse.

It's important to note that the defence of provocation doesn't just require 'provocation'. It basically has to be shown that someone snapped as a result of that provocation. The usual words used are "sudden and temporary loss of self-control".

The important development in the early 1990's (the case was R -v- Ahluwalia, heard in 1992, rather than the mid-1990's as suggested in the above article) when the Court of Appeal accepted that this could occur on a 'slow-burn' reaction type case - such as with battered wife syndrome after years of abuse.

It is also necessary that this is a reasonable loss of self-control. There have been a number of cases since arguing about what is taken into account when determining whether the loss was 'reasonable' - I won't bore you with it here (mostly to do with the individual's personal characteristics, such as psychiatric problems or low intelligence). Mostly the battered wives don't deal with that question as the women are generally just ordinary (i.e. normal intelligence and no psychiatric problems outside of battered wives syndrome itself).

In practice (from friends at the criminal bar) I understand the big question for these cases is usually whether there was pre-determination on the part of the killer. Such pre-determination would automatically rule out provocation as a defence, as it shows that it was not a sudden loss of control. This leaves the issue of the husband being asleep in a rather odd state:
(i) She waited until he was asleep - because she was determined to kill him or because she took that long to 'boil over'?
It's not a great position to be arguing from for a defendant.

NB. The appeal appears to have been allowed, at least in part, on the basis of new evidence of the effect of the battering on Ms Smith. This could mean (I'm not saying it does, but it could) that the original verdict was perfectly sound on what was available at the time. I don't know - I haven't read the judgment of the Court of Appeal or the new evidence.
 
 
Shortfatdyke
16:38 / 06.11.02
The quick answer is that no, I don't believe she deserved to do any time for killing that bastard.

I've interviewed Julie Bindel from Justice for Women a couple of times and read up quite a lot of stuff on the issue, and I'm familiar with what you're saying about 'slow burning' provocation. I also suffered an abusive relationship - ten years of it - and I understand totally how impossible it is to leave/escape. It's a matter of self defence, I think, for someone like Smith to have waited for her abuser to be asleep - it balances the power. Yeah, she had to make sure he was dead to save herself and her children.

I'm really glad she's out of gaol, but we have got to change not only the law on this but also power dynamics in relationships. I know so many women who have been treated like shit and abused and completely believed, or were made to believe, that they were not worth anything else.

Two women a week in the UK are killed by abusive male partners.
 
  
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