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Great Cthulu Comes!

 
 
cusm
16:17 / 31.10.02
They came from the deep

They're big, they're slithery, they're terrifying, they've never been seen alive – and now, it's reported, they're taking over the world, with a greater total weight as a species than the entire human race. Richard Askwith reports on the mysteries of the giant squid, a profoundly elusive creature that suddenly seems to be popping up everywhere

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But that, it now emerges, is only the beginning of the story. Last week brought even more dramatic news: the respected journal Australasian Science was reported to have announced that giant squid are currently growing so fast – both in size and in number – that, in terms of total biomass, they now surpass the human race.

On the face of it, this is absurd. Here is a species whose existence mankind has scarcely even noticed until now; for living examples of which scientists have spent whole careers searching in vain. How can they suddenly be occupying more of our planet than us? And how can scientists be so certain – when they are simultaneously so ignorant?

But the article, based on the work of Dr George Jackson of Tasmania's Institute of Antarctic and Southern Ocean Studies, seemed plain enough. Squid, it insisted, are the new "big players of the ocean". Previous constraints on their population – such as predation by sperm whales and tuna and competition for food by smaller "ground fish" such as flounder, halibut, cod and hake – have in recent years been abruptly removed, in both cases by overfishing. At the same time, global warming has heated the ocean to a temperature better suited than ever before to rapid growth – both for giant squid and for cephalopods in general.


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Most people are familiar with the opening thoughts of Tennyson's "The Kraken Wakes", either through the original or via John Wyndham's 1953 thriller: "Below the thunders of the upper deep,/ Far, far beneath in the abysmal sea,/ His ancient, dreamless, uninvaded sleep/ The Kraken sleepeth..."

The closing lines of the poem are more obscure, but may yet prove more prophetic: "There hath he lain for ages, and will lie/ Battening upon huge sea-worms in his sleep,/ Until the latter fire shall heat the deep;/ Then once by man and angels to be seen,/ In roaring he shall rise and on the surface die."
 
 
Wrecks City-Zen
19:34 / 31.10.02
To which I reply with a heartfelt Oh shit...
 
 
grant
19:59 / 31.10.02
It's a common cryptozoological trope and hope; that as humankind devours the environment, more large, unknown animals will appear.
 
 
gergsnickle
00:02 / 01.11.02
Well, I'm hopeful for the emergence of new unknown animals too, but do they have to be giant squid? Forget sharks, these to me are the terrors of the sea... swimming in the ocean each day this summer and autumn, there would inevitably come a point when I would think of old H.P.'s writing (which I've been avidly re-reading for some time now - was just about to sit down with "The Call of Cthulu" when I saw this thread) and wonder what horrors were lurking in the briny depths below. Now, thanks to this post, I know. And will never swim outdoors again. Laughs.
 
 
illmatic
07:27 / 01.11.02
I thought we needed a photo to go with this thread.

Population explosion? No problem - how long ill we see an explosion of king size calamari on our she;lves?
 
 
The Natural Way
07:54 / 01.11.02
Big cephalapod, mollusc bastards certainly scare the shit out of me. I can't stand foot-heads w/ beaks.

Uuurgh.
 
 
Naked Flame
07:56 / 01.11.02
Squid are kind of cute, though.

Cuter than a lot of humans...
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
07:57 / 01.11.02
Anyone clued-up on astronomy/logy and know if "the stars are right"? heh heh.
 
 
illmatic
08:24 / 01.11.02
(wrong forum) What I found weird is how closey the Tennyson poem seems to echo Lovecraft (or vice versa). Does anyone know anything about this? (close)
 
 
rizla mission
11:56 / 01.11.02
(Just literary coincidence I guess, though it's impossible to read one without thinking of the other. I suppose it's possible Lovecraft may have had the poem in mind when he thought up Cthulhu, but it's equally possible he didn't. Tennyson certainly doesn't get a mention in his 'Supernatural Horror in Literature', which otherwise acts as basically an A-Z of everyone HPL liked).
 
 
grant
13:19 / 01.11.02
It seems like it'd be impossible to be educated in the 1920s without reading Tennyson. To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.

What I'd love is if someone discovered that giant squids were significantly smarter than octopusses, which are pretty damn smart animals.
 
 
The Natural Way
14:00 / 01.11.02
Squids aren't cute. Squids are aliens.
 
 
illmatic
14:03 / 01.11.02
Cheers Riz and Grant.
Another unscientific observation: squids creep the HELL out of me when sprawled out dead like in the photo linked above, but I can imagine they would be incredibly beautiful when moving in their natural environment(like all animals).

I've seen small squid swimming and squeezing through gaps on David Attneborough et al. and they're wonderful, like an alien ballet.

Of course a big one wouldn't look as beautiful if it was roaring toward you waving it's suckers, but hell, you strayed onto his turf!
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
15:15 / 01.11.02
HAH! It'll ALL be their turf soon, Mr Illmatic...

And just in case that turns out to be true, can I be the first to hail our now squid overlords. (Yes. I AM Count Baltar).
 
 
Tezcatlipoca
17:11 / 01.11.02
I'm not so sure you'll get your squid overlords, Stoatie. Those arms just aren't built to accomplish the complex set of tasks that would be required to enslave the entire human race. And besides, Architeuthis Dux worship is for pansies. Vampyroteuthis Infernalis
are the clearly real masters...
 
 
Boy in a Suitcase
00:00 / 02.11.02
Vampire Squid from Hell? AIIIEEEEEE!
 
 
Tezcatlipoca
07:47 / 02.11.02
Indeed.

Between Panama and the Galapagos in 1925, William Beebe's Arcturus expedition hauled in "a very small but very terrible octopus, black as night, with ivory white jaws and blood-red eyes."

...be very, very afraid...
 
 
higuita
19:33 / 03.11.02
What I want to know is - was this anything to do with one of the magick lot? If anyone's trying to bring back the deep ones, I want to get some scuba lessons in. These are things I need to know (as it may well interfere with my plans for a race of super zombie-pirates).

As for 'Those arms just aren't built to accomplish the complex set of tasks that would be required to enslave the entire human race' ,Tezcatlipoca, what happens when they get hold of the tankers and drag them to the bottom of the ocean in their greed for domination? No oil? Next thing you know, there'll be no bananas apart from those we can grow in that big biodome thing, then the whole of Cornwall will be full of Cthonians, and...

Actually, it doesn't sound so bad. I too would like to pledge my allegiance to our future overlords. Beats the hell out of the Windsor family.
 
 
The Falcon
22:28 / 03.11.02
Squids are tasty. Humans win.

Ooooooooooooooooooohhhhhh.
 
 
rizla mission
09:07 / 04.11.02
I'm not so sure you'll get your squid overlords, Stoatie. Those arms just aren't built to accomplish the complex set of tasks that would be required to enslave the entire human race.

You just watch 'em.

Vampyroteuthis Infernalis
are the clearly real masters...


I'm pretty sure I saw one of those on a nature programme when I was little .. it was about some people who were using a new un-manned diving thingy to go deeper into the ocean that ever before (sounds like the start of a B-movie I know, but bear with me) and it came up with one of these - a vampire squid that could turn itself inside out! - and all the scientists were crowding around the tank they'd put it it, saying things along the lines of "good gracious, we've heard about the bodies of these things being washed up occasionally but no one's ever seen one alive before.."

I thought that was so cool.
 
 
illmatic
09:22 / 04.11.02
But do they suck blood?!
Wasn't clear from that article.

If they don't, is anyone up for starting a breeding program?
We can use my bath.
 
 
The Natural Way
10:15 / 04.11.02
They don't have jaws. They have beaks. Forget poetic-license - tell it like it is.
 
 
Tezcatlipoca
10:27 / 04.11.02
Beaks, jaws, laser beams, they're all just as deadly when attached to these little monsters. An even more alarming aspect can be seen in the lefthand picture on this page. Now it might just be me, but does it or does it not bear more than a passing similarity to a Third Stage Guild Navigator from Lynch's Dune? Perhaps these vile denizens of the sea really can fold spacetime...
 
 
KnofC
11:49 / 04.11.02
could this page have the sounds of cthulhu stiring?

http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/vents/acoustics/specs_mystery.html
 
 
bjacques
12:05 / 04.11.02
We haven't yet met anything we couldn't eat,
including each other. I suggest that when
the aliens land, we have knives and forks
in reserve. To Serve Man? I don't think so.

I guess there's a lot of calamari in our
future. Sea cowboys riding the deep range.
Beats Soylent Green ("made from the best
thing on earth -- people!") anyhow.
 
 
Unicornius
16:58 / 22.12.02
Whatever. I'm into the alien/demon/angel fast food. Where can I get one MkCthulu? If they want to eat us for desert then lets bite back. Hah.
 
 
Potguns
00:04 / 23.12.02
until the first one comes on land and survives i'm gonna stand on the beach with a big stick and a pair of DM's and squish anythin that comes my way! Who cares??? It's not like we live there, let em have the sea!!! Anyone for sushi??
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
11:10 / 23.12.02
So-- and don't take this the wrong way-- a massive change in the ecological makeup of the sea doesn't bother you in any way? No? Global warming... massive shifts in ecosystems... hmm? Oh. Okay, then.
 
 
grant
16:21 / 23.12.02
Plus, giant squid don't taste good - they're full of ammonia.
 
 
Potguns
02:06 / 24.12.02
Hey man!! don't make me come across as overtly ecologically uninformed, i'm just sayin let the squid be (for now) In afterthought I can see how the post makes me look inconsiderate but it was meant as a joke, spose i've got to be a bit more careful with the quickfire comments. Tone's so annoyin to get right in posts.
 
 
A
02:17 / 24.12.02
Arrr, Squiddy, I've got nothin' against ye. I just heard there was gold in yer belly. A har har har har.
 
 
Mazarine
03:03 / 02.01.03
There was just a thing on the Discovery channel- very pseudoscientific- about how life on Earth will evolve in 200 Million years, and yep, two different species of squid- the Megasquid and the Squibbons, will battle for Paris, now a rainforest.

I kid you not. It was called "The Future is Wild." Someone in that production staff had a real hard-on for squid.
 
 
grant
14:04 / 02.01.03
Cool!

We got material from the book & show at work a while ago. The pictures are much more exciting in color. (we only got little b/w thumbnails).

It's related to something I was asking about in Books a while ago -- the After Man book. I think it shares an author as well as the general concept.

There's footage of the landsquids here, in the show's trailer. (There are also little info sheets on a few of the creatures, including some of the squids.)

The more I think about it, the more it makes sense. I mean, squids are basically just complicated snails, and they do *fine* on land...
 
  
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