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Odd Question for Classicists

 
 
Ethan Hawke
12:20 / 28.10.02
This is kind of a strange question but....In my upcoming NaNoWriMo novel, I feature a character who works as a food stylist - he makes food pretty for menu and advertisement photos. Since I'm pretty much making-up the culture of this profession from a whole cloth, I've decided that a lot of the lingo/ideals are to be borrowed from classical architecture - Vitruvius. You know, using the golden ratio when piling mashed potatos, pediments of green beans, capitals of sliced garlic, etc.

My question is, before I go making up references to fake gourmands who were rough contemporaries of Vitruvius, were there actually any classical Roman food writers who set out the rules of cuisine and/or consumption of food? There has to be someone in the epicurean tradition that did this.

Failing an historical reference, what would be a humorous and/or apt name for a Roman gourmand? You see, if left to my own devices I'd come up with something like Gluttonus Maximus, and I don't want to make anyone wince in horror.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
12:33 / 28.10.02
Marcus Bibulus Crassus?

I'm pretty sure there are Roman cookbooks around - will have a think. In the meantime, Petronius is good for foody stuff.

However, you might want to bear in mind that "Epicureanism" to a Classicist is a philosophy, the most detailed account of which probably survives in Lucretius' de rerum natura, and is not connected to gluttony but to the maximisation of contentment through moderate enjoyment of pleasures, and to the Democritean belief that the universe is made up of atoms.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
12:55 / 28.10.02
Apuleius?
 
 
Ethan Hawke
13:05 / 28.10.02
Oh yeah, Apuleius - there's a good feast scene in the Golden Ass, isn't there....must have a look through...

Petronious wrote the Satyricon, nicht wahr? I don't think I have a copy of that handy, unfortunately. It must be in project gutenberg, though...

W/r/t to epicureanism, I read a translation of de rerum natura at Uni (and oddly enough, a book I was recently reading appropriated the concept of atomic "swerve" in order to explain strong poetry. Okay, it was harold bloom.), so I know the origins of the term - I thought there must be some connection between contemporary usage and classic sources, besides slander and misapprehension.

Could you pretty please translate Marcus Bibulus Crassus for moi?
 
 
William Sack
13:06 / 28.10.02
Not aware of a Classical food-writer in the way you describe. The best ancient Roman description of a totally over-the-top gourmand-tastrophe is in Petronius' Satyricon - but that's more the eating end of things rather than the cooking. It's superb though.

What about Delius Ferrarius - a ancient male Delia Smith?
 
  
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