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Ericksonian Hypnosis

  
 
Lionheart
05:42 / 18.10.02
What's Ericksonian hypnosis?
 
 
Sebastian
11:54 / 18.10.02
Its a term usually referred to the type of hypnosis Dr. Milton Erickson, psychiatrist, developed towards his last decades of medical practice, that contrasts with traditional hypnosis, stage hypnosis, and most hypnotic approaches. By the way, he had the whole medical community on his back claiming he was not doing medicine, but any way, it was his own medical practice.

In general, and you can appreciate this on any post-60s video tape with Erickson at work, two guys engaged in ericksonian hypnosis look just as if they are having a conversation, or, rather, they look like one of them is listening to the other's lengthy and somewhat banally playful discourse. No commands are given, the word hypnosis itself may not even be uttered, and also the word trance may be missing. Still, some very impressive classic hypnotic phenomena may develop, although Erickson had dropped this exhibiting of trance phenomena towards his last years, and was more prone to point out the subtle indicators of trance development, which anybody sitting here, reading this sentence, right on this unlikely word, and deeper still, has probalby already developed.

You may like to check the entry on Erickson, Milton H. at the invaluable Robert Dilts' NLP Encyclopedia.
 
 
Lionheart
16:57 / 20.10.02
Could you provide an example and explain it?
 
 
Wrecks City-Zen
19:46 / 20.10.02
Heh.

After all these years, Lionheart is till asking...

Bless Hir.

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Sebastian
12:09 / 21.10.02
While you look at what I have written in this simple, yet close and tangible screen in front of your eyes and you read each of the words, you bear thoughts, in your mind, about what I am saying in your mind, and how you can begin to wonder of a time you were just listening to something similar in your everyday existence in an even unlikely place. And as you have these thoughts and become able to recognize memories that you are having, you may come to notice that this is something that has created an ongoing interest in your own self, through which it will be easy for you to think in order to make sense. And still you ask your self about being able to see the purpose of what I'm saying here, you can just realize when the familiar has become the unfamiliar and you can use the turn around to loose sense of what once was your existence in what appears now as an even unlikely place while still being able to listen to these words in your mind and the sounds around your self. Because it is good to wonder how you come back to find what you used to think was your own memory in order to make a delightful senseless sense.

Adapted from Advanced Language Patterns Mastery
 
 
Sebastian
12:04 / 23.10.02
So you are looking again at what I have written in this simple, yet close and tangible screen in front of your eyes, and as you read each of the words while having thoughts in your mind about what I am saying, in your mind, you may listen just this voice of pure thought and the sounds around and remember a time in your everyday existence you were feeling something similar about these same thoughts and the sounds around, and notice how easy is already for the familiar to become the unfamiliar and the sounds around to go the other round so that you may just turn around and think of an even unlikely place you have come to know so well where you once had these memories and become able to recognize the feelings that created all meaningful understandings about your own self. And still you need to think in order to make sense and move to the place where a ritual is taking place, a type of prolonged and ancient ritual you can just think, where generations of priests, priestesses and acolytes appear to have for long forgotten the purpose that was once muttered by a caring yet unknown intangible entity, and while you continue to observe gestures, words and songs over time and years you can listen the question in your mind that asks, what is it so important for us that generations of priests, priestesses and acolytes want to have through a prolonged and ancient ritual, and just imagine with care in your mind the voice of a yet unknown intangible entity muttering the purpose once again, so that you can recognize the place and move priests, priestesses and acolytes to a place where the purpose is taking place, and come to observe now with even keen interest how gestures, words and songs are changed where the purpose is taking place, and priests, priestess and acolytes may become something else when the purpose has taken place, and your own pleasant delightfulness swarms in your mind while thinking of something else, just coming back from nowhere else, to turn around and listen to the sounds around of what you used to think was your own memory of this very same place, where now the purpose is taking place.


(Adapted from nowhere)
 
 
Sebastian
12:07 / 24.10.02
Lionheart, that'll be 25 bucks.

I was thinking yesterday, maybe you can go to the library and get a video of Erickson working with patients. There are plenty of them, videos, I mean, but only one is the most distributed in which he works with two people at the same time. I really don't know if you'll find any of them in a public library, but maybe you can also ask at any of the Erickson institutes.

By the way if it is "ericksonian" hypnosis you want to learn, I would definitely suggest you go read books and see videos of Richard Bandler, becuase Erickson himself was not ericksonian, just as Aristotle would find himself strongly missidentified with aristotelianism. Erickson's work, and personal explorations, in the therapeutic applications of hypnosis is developed both in videos, papers, aticles, and books he wrote, co-wrote, or were edited by Dr. Rossi, another physician.

In general, ericksonian hypnosis refers to the purposeful use of hypnotic language patterns. These patterns I believe were intially described by Bandler and Grinder in Patterns of Hypnotic Techniques of Milton H. Erickson M.D. Volume 1, John Grinder and Richard Bandler, Meta Publications 1975, which as I read in the catalog description is a "Clear exposition of the artfully vague language patterns used by Milton Erickson.". I think this is the best way to start talking about ericksonian hypnosis, especially since I believe Erickson himslef never talked about "language patterns" when discussing or explaining his hypnotic work.

So, Bandler and Grinder went to see Erickson, wrote the book, endorsed it with a few words by Erickson -those same words that endorse the second volume of Hypnotic Ppatterns and both vols. of Structure-, and as Erickson once explained: "Bandler and Grinder spent four days with me and they thought they got my technique in a nutshell ...what they got was a nutshell!". And in much sense that's precisely what both volumes on Patterns of Hypnotic Techniques of Milton H. Erickson, are, nutshells, nut-shells, not just shells, nutshells, or nut-patterns, that give nut-shape to what you may want to put inside, because these books discuss in general a purported "structure" of hypnosis, one of the many purported shells of hypnosis, or, better, of hypnotic communication, and that's what you first learn when you learn about ericksonian hypnosis: hypnotic shells, or hypnotic patterns.
 
  
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