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Conservative Pop

 
 
Matthew Fluxington
15:30 / 09.10.02
This man has compiled a list of what he considers the top 40 conservative pop songs of all time. A lot of it is very surprising, some of it is highly debatable. Is the Beatles' "Revolution" really anti-revolution, for example?

What do you think of his list? What are other hits that you might think are conservative in message?
 
 
grant
16:01 / 09.10.02
But if you go talking about Chairman Mao....

Hmm.

No, on reading the list, I have to say the man is clearly nuts.


7. The Byrds, “Turn! Turn! Turn!”
This is an odd conservative classic, having been written by old time lefty Pete Seeger and performed by a group that later glorified drugs in “Eight Miles High.” Nevertheless, it makes my list because the lyrics are drawn straight from the Book of Ecclesiastes. I figure that any song based on the Bible deserved inclusion. I also like it. “Turn! Turn! Turn!” was a massive hit in November 1965, hitting number 1 and staying there for 3 weeks.

18. George Harrison, “My Sweet Lord”
Harrison was, of course, a member of The Beatles. After that group’s breakup, he went on to record a number of solo hits, of which this was the biggest. It hit number 1 in December 1970, and stayed in that position for 4 weeks. The inclusion of this song may be controversial because of its non-Christian lyrics. However, I take the view that being deeply religious makes the song per se conservative, even if the religion is Hinduism or Buddhism. The fact that Harrison also wrote “Taxman” contributed to my decision to add “My Sweet Lord” to the list.

27. The Kinks, “Sunny Afternoon”
British taxes must have been really high in 1966. That year, The Beatles recorded “Taxman” and fellow Brits The Kinks also recorded this anti-tax anthem. As they sing, “The tax man’s taken all my dough…He’s taken everything I’ve got.” They took this song to number 14 in August.
It is also worth noting another important song by this group that was not released as a single, “20th Century Man.” Written by Ray Davies, leader of The Kinks for almost 40 years, it reflects a profoundly conservative worldview, as shown in the following lyrics:
You keep all your smart modern writers
Give me William Shakespeare
You keep all your smart modern painters
I'll take Rembrandt, Titian, Da Vinci and Gainsborough
I was born in a welfare state
Ruled by bureaucracy
Controlled by civil servants
And people dressed in gray
Got no privacy, got no liberty
Cos the twentieth century people
Took it all away from me



He doesn't quite... get it.

Dude, "I Fought the Law" is not really a pro-police anthem.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
16:23 / 09.10.02
The thing I noticed about some of his selections is that he was willing to shuck off context and irony in order to declare a song for his team...

Still, I'm not familiar with that Kinks song - was he going for irony? That's pretty convincing out of context and in print.
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
16:30 / 09.10.02
It's not funny to mock the irony-impaired.
He missed out Kill All Hippies by Primal Scream, Electioneering by Radiohead and Money Money Money. All fiercely pro-conservative, natch.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
19:49 / 09.10.02
I love the justification for including Turn, Turn, Turn on the list. "I like it, I'm a conservative, therefore it's a conservative song."
 
 
_pin
20:28 / 09.10.02
Not on topic at all, really, but can someone please confirm that, at one party conference, the Conservatives sang Imagine?

My mother still likes that song, dispite constantly tutting when peopel talk about Eminem, saying you can't like a song unless you agree with it's lyrical sentiments, or even just the sentiments of the person who wrote it.

THE FUCK??
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
16:19 / 10.10.02
I'm still puzzling over the inclusion of 'Revolution' in there, the song is anti-violent revolution, pro-peaceful revolution and advocates drug use (possibly) as a means to inner revolution. How the fuck is that conservative?

Yeah, I think the guy has a problem identifying irony, but even with 'Revolution' it's not like it's hidden or anything.
 
 
_pin
08:11 / 11.10.02
I think it's just ebcause the guy automatically things that revolution = destroying something (he's right on that point), but then what of, say, the revolution in Serbia, where the regime was destroyed without any physical violence (am I wrong on this point?).

He just listens to it and thinks Lennon (wasn't it only Lennon who wrote that song?) is singing a song close to his heart: "It would be nice if we could make the world better but Whoa! Maybe we'd have to give up swimming pools in our back gardens and not drive SUVs down to the bottom fo the fucking drive and back up again just to rpove that we have large cocks! Fuck that shit!!
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
10:29 / 11.10.02
Agree with your last point, pin - 'Revolution' really is essentially a counter-revolutionary song, a "hey, I'm all for change, man, but let's change our *minds*, dude, that's where the real revolution has to happen, don't do doing crazy bad things like redistributing my wealth, that's just like Mao... and p.s., chicks don't dig Mao" song. In fact, I'd say this is the only real insight the guy who made the list has attained.
 
 
Jack Fear
13:04 / 11.10.02
My favorite bit of "Revolution"; the line "But when you talk about destruction, don't you know that you can count me..."

and the voice on one side of the stereo says "...in," while the voice on the other side of the stereo says "...out."

Splitting the difference, trying to have it both ways: John couldn't make up his mind as to whether violent revolution was a good thing or not, and the song reflects it in a clever way. A cop-out, maybe, but with a certain integrity in the way he admits to its own uncertainty.
 
 
_pin
11:43 / 12.10.02
Actually, I don't agree with my last point. I think that that's just what the guy wants to hear, and the song makes it easy for him to do it. I think Lennon's just saying that he doesn't want to raze culture or history or anything. He just wants to make everything nice and pretty. The point, he actually wants to. Whereas the guy who made that list doesn't. He says it's a nice idea but this isn't some fucking utopia, you stupid red! so we gotta make the best of what we got by fucking the world over- here are some songs form pop culture that don't really support what the fuck I'm talking about and me talking about them is only gonna make me look like a fucking moron who doesn't ever fuck.

I like people who don't "get it". They make me feel cleverer.
 
  
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