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Van Sciver leaves New X-Men

 
 
Matthew Fluxington
14:26 / 08.10.02
From Newsarama:

Fans of artist Ethan Van Sciver’s work on New X-Men best savor this month’s issue #133, because not only will it be Van Sciver’s last X-Men for a while, it will likely be his last work for Marvel for some time.
As reported by Diamond Distributors, Van Sciver is no longer attached to next month’s New X-Men #134, an issue he was originally solicited to draw. Instead, penciler Keron Grant will provide the interiors. And while Frank Quitely is already scheduled to draw and four-issue story arc beginning with December’s issue #135, and Phil Jimenez likely to follow with an story arc afterwards, nevertheless, Van Sciver is now removed from the X-Men mix. The artist reports while he drew six-pages of issue #134, he thinks that those pages “probably won't been seen” and that he and Marvel has “severed” their working relationship…

“I was hired on an exclusive basis a year and few months ago to complete the gap between Frank Quitely's issues of New X-Men, which I thought would be a reasonable task,” explained the artist. “My contract asked that I do a certain number of issues per year, considering that my usual rate of work delivery at DC comics was about one book every two months (do the math!). I've found that as I matured as an artist, I ask more of myself than I used to, and the fact is that I only produced six books for Marvel over the course of 15 months.

“Quality means more to me than quantity, and I try my best to do books that I and the company I work for are proud to print and release to fans. So I tried to get a Phoenix mini-series going with Marvel, which I thought would be a better place for me to be. That didn't work out for a number of reasons. This was clearly the wrong situation for both Marvel and myself at the wrong time.”

Asked for comment on the matter, X-Men editor Mike Marts replied, "We're extremely excited about the roster of talent that's lining up to work on the X-titles right now: Frank Quitely, Phil Jimenez, Keron Grant, Ron Garney and Kia Asamiya!"

[On a curious footnote, this week Diamond reported that New X-Men #134, which as noted will ship with a different artist as solicited, will be returnable, indicating Marvel may now be make products returnable on a regular basis, and that their large returnable list from last month was not just a one-time anomaly].

“At the end of the day, I'm pleased with the books I did for Marvel, many of which are being reprinted multiple times, and working with Grant Morrison was a pleasure,” Van Sciver concluded. “But DC Comics has always been more comfortable for me. I love all of the characters, I love being able to choose who I work with, and I love the freedom. I'm planning a series of prestige format projects with them at the moment, and I'm very happy that things worked out the way they did!”

Van Sciver preferred to let DC announce his upcoming projects, but he did say he’s already working on his next three books and that he and Geoff Johns are “talking” about a possible The Flash: Iron Heights sequel.


Okay. So it's Frank and Phil. And Keron Grant?

A sample of Keron's art.

Another sample.

Another sample.

I've got mixed feelings about this guy - he's not awful, but he doesn't seem right for NXM at all. Why not hire John Paul Leon as artist #3?
 
 
The Natural Way
14:32 / 08.10.02
It's a bit superhero-y, but so's our Phil's stuff.

God, this book's art is fucking CURSED. RggGhHh.
 
 
CameronStewart
14:40 / 08.10.02
I like the sketch of Storm. Nice.
 
 
kid coagulant
14:58 / 08.10.02
Paging Igor Kordey.
 
 
Sebastian
15:06 / 08.10.02
I've got mixed feelings about this guy

I've already got mixed feelings towards the whole book itself. Imagine what that first HC is going to just look like, and then the second, and thenn all individual issues, and then...

And I don't like what I see at this guy site's for this book so far.

But well...
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
15:07 / 08.10.02
No! No more Igor! Never again!

Igor is gone. For good. Forever.
 
 
kid coagulant
15:15 / 08.10.02
Ah, Kordey's kind of grown on me. He and Darko Macan are doing some good odd stuff over at 'Soldier X'.

How about Seth Fisher then?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
15:23 / 08.10.02
Seth Fisher is probably the most brilliant new talent I've seen in a while, but he is so wrong for superhero comics. His talent really needs to be showcased in work that can seduce new readers from outside of the regular comics fanbase.

(For those who might not know: Fisher is the artist of Vertigo Pop: Tokyo)
 
 
kid coagulant
15:37 / 08.10.02
Yeah but is 'New X-Men' really a superhero comic? Fisher's 'Pop: Tokyo' stuff is good, if you can get past the fact that the people he draws don't have noses. That 'Doom Patrol' issue he did reminds me a lot of Quitely.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
16:24 / 08.10.02
New X-Men is a superhero comic. It's a vaguely alternative superhero comic, but it's a superhero comic.

I think it's maybe a mistake to wish that every talented artist in the industry be drafted to draw mainstream superhero titles. Fisher's best off doing material that will draw new readers to comics, because his style is so fresh and appealing and pop.
 
 
CameronStewart
17:08 / 08.10.02
Guess it's time for me to ask Grant again...

 
 
Sebastian
17:40 / 08.10.02
New X-Men is a superhero comic. It's a vaguely alternative superhero comic, but it's a superhero comic.


Not that vaguely alternative since Morrison took the title, beyond the super-powered characters, it makes not much of a comparison to Avengers, Ultimates, JLA, or whichever you pick, but this opens door for another discussion.

I think it's maybe a mistake to wish that every talented artist in the industry be drafted to draw mainstream superhero titles.

Ur right, but ultimately we are discussing what is probably the best selling monthly title of the past 10 months maybe, and from this point then it does deserve top quality artwork. I've just looked over past issues of Metropolitan, which needles to say it has no super-humans, and as I can't stop to be impressed and mesmerized by the art of each page and panel over the years in that single title, why can't we have someone like that to draw Grant's New-X-Men on a regular schedule??

And I'll say it, I find this new guy completely inapproppriate (how many PPs should be there??). If Kordey can keep the standards of Cable/Soldier X he would do nicely, but in any case: Uncle Cam, please do something.
 
 
Mr Tricks
17:51 / 08.10.02
Go GETT'em CAM!!!

On Grant... i don't think he's bad at all...

beside isn't the new guy's name Grant also?

that MUST mean something!!!
 
 
at the scarwash
18:11 / 08.10.02
I'd really like to see Ted McKeever do it. Just to see it. His Spidey/Doc Strange Ultimate Thingy was v. nice.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
07:37 / 09.10.02
Seth Fisher is a great artist: some great viewpoints used in Tokyo PoP. He’s also got a great sense of space – something he shares with Quitely – and his architectural and environmental awareness is fresh (and detailed): not something many American artists seem bothered about.

Is he American?

But if he always draws people like the way he draws them in PoP then keep him away from Xmen. I just presumed that was a stylistic choice for the PoP book. I hope so.

But I must say: ‘Shite! I was beginning to really get into the Van Driver. Shame on the system. Or whoever’

That said, if it gets Broad Arrow Jack (what the fuck was that all about, Cameron?) on the title, then me and others will be happy.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
11:35 / 09.10.02
I've seen very little of Fisher's work outside Tokyo Pop, but a lot of the eccentricities of the art in that book do appear to be a stylistic decision based on that one title's theme (the no-nose thing, for a start). Some things remain constant - the use of space that yawn mentions, the precision and clarity of line (think I said this earlier, but you get the impression that he must have some architectural training under his belt) and the ability to include ludicrous amounts of detail without ever cluttering the scene up - Van Sciver's NXM stuff looked a bit too busy imo, the panels not really having a point of focus.

Fisher's website, btw, is here.

Anyhoo, this Keron Grant fella looks fine. I like the bright, brash cartoon look the examples have got and if he's used on the right stories it'll make an interesting juxtaposition with Quitely's slightly more sombre approach.

I would love to see our Mr S on the title, of course.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
11:49 / 09.10.02
I think, for a one issue stand-in guy, this bloke's artwork is going to be decent enough. As a permanent artist I'd say definitely not, but to tide us over until the Age of Frank (followed by the Age of Phil, woo-hoo!) I think he'll do.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
12:01 / 09.10.02
The implication from that article is that Keron Grant is the third NXM artist, and that he will be drawing whatever Frank and Phil cannot.
 
 
Jack Fear
12:29 / 09.10.02
Yes, Seth Fisher is American, though he lived in Japan for quite a while (and may still). I nearly worked with him once, years ago: another brilliant missed opportunity. I loved the weird, stylized energy of his work then, and it just keeps getting better.

Ethan Van Sciver lurks here, or did... maybe he'll pop in to give us the skinny.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
13:45 / 09.10.02
Ethan has his own forum over on X-Fan. This is what he told them yesterday:

I would have liked to finish another 4 books, but the time it would have taken me to do them made it impossible for Marvel. Issue #134 was TAKEN from me, I didn't quit. I was told that because #133 took me so long, I was to stop working on #134 immediately.
It's more important for Marvel to have books that ship on time, and I agree! A project like Jean Grey, in which the deadline would have been openended would have been ideal, but Marvel is no longer producing miniseries.
Not only that, but Kieron, Phil and Frank can easily handle the schedule of this book. It'll ship on time, with great art. All is well.


Ethan V.


and

Good morning! Again, thank you so much for the support. The best thing about my time on X-Men, honestly, was making so many great fans.
To answer some questions, no, I'm not exclusive to DC, nor will I sign an exclusive contract anytime again in the near future. It was a bad idea. Interesting opportunities spring up all over the place, and it's good to be able to take advantage of them.
I also won't leave X-Fan. Eric and I have become pals, and there's no reason not to maintain my forum here. There are other X-Men talents here who aren't currently working on X-books.
And finally, the project I've taken at DC is a two part graphic novel featuring two of DC's most famous characters, one of which is a stunningly beautiful woman. I can't wait till that's announced. FLASH: IRON HEIGHTS 2 will follow that, I'm sure, because DC, myself, and Geoff Johns all want to do it.
There ya go! Have a good one!

Ethan V.
 
 
Nietzsch E. Coyote
05:16 / 10.10.02
The art on Seth Fisher's website is awesome, I would love to see him draw some newXmen. I am going to miss Ethan.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
11:52 / 10.10.02
that's not seth fischer's site!
 
 
kid coagulant
13:13 / 10.10.02
erm, try here: seth fisher

puuurty.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
13:31 / 10.10.02
Oop In my defence, there's a hell of a lot of similarity between Fisher's art and the stuff on that site. And Fisher used to be part of it. And I didn't read the thing I got the link from properly. And I'm easily confused. And... erm... *runs*
 
  
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