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Farscape Season 4: Pervscape! (SPOILERS)

 
  

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Regrettable Juvenilia
19:38 / 30.09.02
Funny thing about TV: you can forget about your obsessions very quickly when they're not currently showing. Already Six Feet Under has stopped feeling like an actual part of my life and become just something I watched for a bit, the nightmarish memory of Oz is fading - even Buffy sometimes drops off under my radar, so to speak, for short periods of time. When they come back though, *then* you remember how they had you hooked, oh yes, oh boy. Already I am once more a regular Sunday morning worshipper at the temple of Jen Lindley... but I digress.

So, to the point. Farscape's back on BBC2, and I've remembered why I used to care. When I'd heard it had been cancelled with no warning before the end of season 4, I was disappointed, but hardly upset. Then I saw the first episode of the season, 'Crichton Kicks', in which John is alone and drunk and bearded and mad (again, still, as ever - sort of a 6 out of 10 on the John Crichton scale of madness, where 1 is him at the start of the first series, 10 is when he went totally Scorpied-out, and 4 was about where he was at the end of the last series) on a dying Leviathan, until yet another cutesy feisty pixie-ish alien woman dressed for Torture Garden turns up and has weird but unconsummated immediate sexual chemistry with him (how many more times can that happen? answer: lots, as we shall see). She is being chased by some Klingons, who in a very knowing manner have thick Russian accents and are called Klingons by Crichton. Chiarra and Rigel show up (apologies if I'm spelling names phonetically): Rigel is still so irritating that yet again I'm amazed nobody decides to just cap one in his muppet head; Chiarra is still the utter freakin' bomb, except even crazier and alternately inappropriately aggressive/libidinous than ever (a combination of her visions getting more and more painful in a blatant rip from Angel, and the fact that she's been tortured in unthinkable ways over the break between seasons - don't feel bad, Pip, it's happened to everyone on this show). Crichton shaves, shit blows up, Crichton has delusional waking dreams again and is still not really back down to 3 or below on the mad scale. It was good, but not great.

But then tonight I saw the second episode: 'What Was Lost (Part One: Sacrifice)' - how Claremont is that, already? - and cor, but it rocked. Without getting into too much detail, Crichton and Chiarra run into D'Argo and Jool and the mad scary old woman again, who are being archeologists. Why? Fuck knows, except to give the bad guys something to steal and to reveal that WE ARE ALL ONE. The plot becomes totally incomprehensible and involves a fish guy, some ancient race now gone bye-bye, some oh-so-subtle references to "weapons of mass destruction", and equally unsbutle hints that we - humans and all manner of aliens - ARE ALL ONE. Oh yeah, and a completely unimportant cannon fodder archeologist character has weird but unconsummated immediate sexual chemistry with John, just cuz she's female. Tsk.

Anyway, all the above is irrelevant. What matters is that Greza, the new big bad of the Peacekeepers turns up again, and she is so Servalan it's not even funny - that is, if Servalan secreted mind-controlling aphrodisiac pheromones from er, her breasts. I am not making any of this up. Having turned Scorpius mind into swiss cheese and enslaved Bracka with breast-drugs, she sets her sights on Crichton: siccing the Peacekeeper riot-copalikes on the gang (they hurt Pip! boo!), then drugging John (who has already been drugged and mind-fucked by the mad old woman this episode, and will be several times again today, poor lad), offering him Scorpius as his gimp, drugging him again and eventually raping him on a beach. Again, I am not making any of this up. Then mad old woman drugs John *again*, and he throws himself off a cliff. To be continued.

Fucking brilliant.

Second best line of show - Crichton to Greza as she nibbles on his neck: "That's better than what Scorpius used to do."

Best line of show - Bracka to Scorpius just before sticking something very painful into his brain: "This is for all those times you made me say yes."

Hypothesis: all good sci-fi and fantasy tv shows are essential metaphors for pervertsex.
 
 
uncle retrospective
20:02 / 30.09.02
Fly.. When is it on?
tell metell metell metell metell metell metell metell metell metell me!
Please!
 
 
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20:49 / 30.09.02
Best line of show, IMHO:

Scorpius: "Your amateur attempts at torture are actually quite pleasurable..."
 
 
Warewullf
22:00 / 30.09.02
Best. Sci-fi. Ever.


And Narcotic-titty-Servilan is kinda cool.

And it's not on for two weeks cos of the fucking snooker! SNOOKER, FER CHRISSAKES! Complain to the BBC now!
 
 
Morlock - groupie for hire
12:47 / 02.10.02
Uncle: 18.45 on BBC2, Mondays. But as Warewulf said, not next Monday due to BASTARD snooker.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
13:46 / 02.10.02
I didn't see the start of the season, at the beginning of the second episode I wondered why I was watching a programme everyone else in the house hates. By the end I was enthralled once again - happens every episode.
 
 
Bear
13:49 / 02.10.02
So this is the final season then I hope their going to be able to wrap things up nicely, I think its crap that they cancel shows without letting them finish up, I think they did that with Dark Angel...

I'm going to watch the rest of this season and then go back and watch the others, every review I hear about it is excellent.
 
 
_pin
18:47 / 02.10.02
I will buy DVDs and love this like it deserves. But I am a continuity pedant and cannot bring myself to watch after missing so much.

It sounds so mad! I want it! It even has robots! And muppets! And sex!
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
19:04 / 02.10.02
Robot sex muppets!
 
 
gridley
19:49 / 02.10.02
Robot sex muppets?!?!? Put a beer tap on it and I'd never have to leave the house!
 
 
doglikesparky
22:08 / 02.10.02
So this is the final season then I hope their going to be able to wrap things up nicely

Sadly no. The season had completed shooting when Sci-Fi cancelled it and a cliffhanger has been filmed. The campaign to save Farscape continues but at the moment it's looking like the only way it's gonna get saved is if it gets amazing ratings in January when the final 11 episodes air.

Fingers crossed then.

And as someone lucky enough to have seen the first 11 eps I can confirm the series just continues to get better and better as it progresses. Amazingly, everything that's happened in the episode described above will be resolved next time and more will be setup whilst they're at it. You all know the drill by now. However bad things get for Crichton and co, it will always get worse...
 
 
_pin
08:47 / 03.10.02
So to save the show, I have to turn the TV on during the programme, but leave the room and play loud music so I don'tknow what happens?

Shiit...
 
 
Tryphena Absent
10:21 / 03.10.02
God, it's like living with the cancellation nightmare that was Babylon5 all over again, why? Oh why?
 
 
Tryphena Absent
10:23 / 03.10.02
Cancellation, no cancellation, cancellation, film last episode early, extra season, fuck the story arc, cancellation, no cancellation...
 
 
gridley
12:19 / 03.10.02
I don't think I'd agree that the show has only gotten better. This last short season was way weak in terms of stories. I love Sikozu (the new girl) and the new Servelan-type, but the plots have been very unexciting. Almost ST:TNG in their self-contained compactness. Very few reprecussions from anything carried on from episode to episode.

I would say, season two was the best, followed by season three, followed by season one, followed by season four.
 
 
The Natural Way
12:36 / 03.10.02
I think I want to dig Farscape. I don't have a sci-fi *thing* at the mo', and I'd like one.

Do I have to watch harder?
 
 
doglikesparky
13:04 / 03.10.02
pin - only if you live in the states and have a Nielson box plugged into your TV.
gridley - a fair point in terms of the telling of the overall story but I think the quality of the writing has been getting better. John Quixote was hilarious - and a great guest star....
I think we're right on the cusp of it all kicking off though, especially in view of Unrealised Realities.

And Granny frelling rocks!

Here's my theory on what's gonna happen :

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Now that Crichton knows wormholes not only travel through space but time aswell, he will use this knowledge towards the end of the season to go back in time, get Scorpy out of the grave and use him to save Aeryn from her Assassin situation. This is why Aeryn can't tell Crichton now why he has to trust her because she knows he'll act differently if he's told and the timeline will be disrupted ("if you go to Za'ha'dum you will die" anyone?). Does that make any kind of sense?
 
 
A Bigger Boat
18:27 / 03.10.02
how the fuck is the (UK)Sci-Fi channel only showing season 3 when the beeb are on 4?

This really pisses me off.
 
 
uncle retrospective
13:53 / 05.10.02
Thanks Morlock. Weirdness ahoy.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
10:34 / 15.10.02
Well, after watching part 2 of 'What Was Lost', I can now safely announce that the BBC will show full-on BDSM a couple of hours before the watershed as long as it's in a sci-fi show...

Love the fact that Crichton calls Braca 'Smithers'.

Have we got rid of Jool now? Thank God... I wanted Rigel to die in that Leviathan as well, the little git. Scorpius, on the other hand, is clearly incredibly hard to kill, and rocked this episode even though he only got one intelligible line. Since he was buried in the ground when the probes did their planet-restoring thing, I kept waiting for the shot of a hand shooting out of the grave... but I'm sure he must be back (is it a nod to/steal from Star Trek III, d'ya think?). Will he kill the monks and Jool? Few would weep, except for D'Argo...

Incidentally, can we try and keep this thread free from Spoilers beyond whatever point the episodes on BBC2 are at? I'll overlook doglikesparky's if everyone else overlooks the fact that I got Chiana's name wrong above.
 
 
doglikesparky
12:20 / 15.10.02
Sorry about that, I forget in my excitement that the BBC are a bit behind.
It won't happen again.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
18:55 / 06.11.02
So, after a very obvious filler about lava and vomit, we've had two more cracking episodes. Areyn back, and apparently now a member of the uncharted territories answer to the PLO. Scorpius alive and one step of the game (I think it'll be interesting to see where his alliance with "Sputnik" goes). No more Harvey (long may we mourn), and therefore no more crazy Crichton, which leaves Pip to fill the role of crazy hair-trigger sex/violence nutter admirably... And D'Argo is now in charge, officially. I found it quite amusing that John didn't receive a single vote in that election - well, he has been crazy most of the time everyone's known him...
 
 
Morlock - groupie for hire
12:22 / 07.11.02
Well, Chrighton has been called inferior, deficient, etc, etc since day one. 'Crackers Don't Matter' being a prime example:

CHIANA: Oh, don't you get it, furball? Look, Crichton's the only one not affected by T'raltixx, cause he's deficient!

JOHN: Who you callin' deficient?!

CHIANA: You! You've got the worst eyes out of all of us. That's why your optic nerves aren't being affected!

JOHN: I've got great eyes, they're better than 20/20 and they're blue!

CHIANA: Okay. So, can you read the symbols on the basin over there?

JOHN: [looks at basin] There's nothing there!

RYGEL: [chuckles] "Warning:….

D'ARGO: "Don't flush corrosives.."

AERYN: [covers one eye] "Down the waste tunnel."

JOHN: [chuckles] That's alright, that's a joke. [chuckles]

AERYN: Excellent. If we're gonna let blue eyes save the day, we better come up with a very good plan.

The crew files out.

JOHN: I'm not deficient. I'm superior. Humans. Are. Superior.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
17:32 / 04.12.02
This series so far has succeeded in making me genuinely quite cross about Farscape's cancellation... It's funny, I remember after the extended bondage sequences in What Was Lost a friend jokingly suggested that the next step would be Crichton in drag. Which we got this week - ostensibly played for laughs as is typical, but complicated by the context and the fact that being psychically linked to Sizuku (sp?) seemed to be making John rather susceptible to the officer's charms. And what is it with Pip and befriending the genderfucked?
 
 
The Falcon
20:14 / 04.12.02
It's Sikhosu, I think.

I really like this programme.
 
 
Bear
06:51 / 17.12.02
I can see why you all like this show now. ""Time is meaningless, yet it is all that exists" - "Very Morrissey"

I really liked last nights episode (although BBC Cult don't seem too?) - It would have probably made more sense if I'd seen more of the show.

Just my luck getting into a show that's already cancelled, but there's talk of a movie and anime right?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
14:10 / 17.12.02
Bit complicated, this one.

Okay, so John finds out that the place where you go in order to travel using wormsholes is a place from which not only all time and space, but all *possible* times and spaces are accessible. Because of the knowledge the Ancients put in his head, he can view these and in fact participate in them via the version of 'himself' that exists in any one of these (so presumably he can only view those realities which contain someone who bears some resemblance to John Crichton?) - however if he 'looks' for too long, he'll get stuck in one - in fact, I get the impression that by getting stuck in one he'll make one of these 'unrealized' realities *real*. So he's basically Donnie Darko.

The question I have is to how many of his little voyeur time/reality trips have been seen before - his first meeting with Dargo, Rigel etc was clearly from the first ep, and we also had what looked like his first encounter with Aeryn... Plus there were a couple of clearly 'alternate' ones, like where he's half-Skarren or where everyone is 'mixed-up' with each other and Crichton turns out to be a Peacekeeper agent. But I'm intrigued by a) the one where Chianna says everyone's dead and tries to jump John's bones - did they happen already and if not, might it?, and b) the one in which John is some kind of Peacekeeper commander with a really great red jacket and Sizoku is revealed to be a Skarren spy - could that be some kind of foreshadowing?

Also a bit confused by the talking heads - I get the stylistic point, but what do they *mean* - just the different versions of him there may have been, or something else?
 
 
Bear
14:19 / 17.12.02

I thought the talking heads were just meant to show the different possibilities, like they'd shot a documentary after he vanished and they interviewees showed the some of the possibilities - him being great, him being an utter bastard or him not existing at all.

As for the jump where everyone was dead, must have been the future so yeah one of the possibilities.

Loved the Peacekeeper timeline.

What about the ending though, floating above Earth. I'm guessing he's going to have to jump again But not before the event!
 
 
Bear
14:20 / 17.12.02
What a mess that last post was. And I've not had a drink today! Bloody Hell.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
14:44 / 17.12.02
'Feel the force John'
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
15:58 / 17.12.02
You know, I was really worried for a moment that was the last episode ever, but apparently we've got just 11 more to go...

I think my favourite line was probably "I am not Kirk, Spock, Luke, Buck, or Flash..." - a nod to just how much source material Farscape does use... Pity he didn't say "Blake" as part of that list.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
06:56 / 31.12.02
It would take some persuading to convince me that last night's episode, 'Kansas' (is the BBC ahead of the US now? can't they buy the license and make it with shaky props and crap effects?) was not the greatest 45 minutes of sci-fi tv ever made...

Sure it's an idea that had been done before, and it could be considered a homage to everything from Star Trek 4 to Back To The Future to an episode of Quantum Leap (actually, it really bit from 'The Leap Home', a *lot*), but there was so much of that wonderful "they can't really do that... oh yes they can!" good stuff going down. Pip deflowering teenage John, with adult John's apparent consent! Bracca and Scorpius - no need for slash there - sharing a moment, and the revelation that Bracca's been working for him since... how long? All along? Not while he was torturing him, surely? Insane...

I think that ending is pretty clearly meant to indicate that John didn't manage to 'fix' things, anyway - what coulod have been a throwaway gag with the cop telling his 'aliens' story to a couple of X-Files feds turns into something much bigger - history has been changed...

All that, and Rygel getting hooked on chocolate. "I don't care how illegal it is, get me some more!"
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
13:22 / 25.02.03
Okay, I stopped posting on this thread because it just became me going "woot!" after every episode and speculating incorrectly as to what would happen. But just thought I'd remind UK people that it's on again tonight, and that (I think) there are only three episodes left. We're clearly in end-of-Season territory anyway, although this show is so good at keeping up the tension that it's hard to tell...

SPOILERS





Harvey 2.0! Jesus, that creeped me out. The humour helps (Harvey's new, improved and evil/Scorpy-loyal version clearly also has access to all John's pop cultue knowledge, hence the Mafia/Nosferatu blend), as does the fact that Crichton and Scorpius have become incredibly slashy over the past few episodes - the body language is very blatantly flirty. I should have seen this twist coming: I remember thinking Scorpius couldn't be trusted not to fuck with John's head, but it's been a while since then... Basically, what the writers have done with Scorpy is what I always thought should have been done with Spike in Buffy: get the audience to feel some sympathy and even liking for him, get the characters in a place where they have to trust him, and then BAM! He always, always has back-up plan, and he always stings you in the end. It's his nature... yesssss.
 
 
Bear
13:27 / 25.02.03
Can you explain all that back history for me briefly, like I said I've only watched this series - they had some sort of brain merge right? Who's Harvey?

Yeah it's on again tonight and then 2 episodes again next week, the last 2 ever.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
14:01 / 25.02.03
Long story short (Haus probably knows more about this): on one of the occasions when Scorpius captured and tortured John Crichton (trying to get information on wormholes), he also implanted a chip in his head which contained a 'neural clone' of Scorpius. I think this must have been implanted around the end of season 1/start of season 2, and the Scorpy clone first manifests itself sometime early in season 2. Occasionally it helped John survive - eg, he was able to break the Nebari's (Pip's people) thrall - but it's primarily slowly driving him mad and eventually takes control, resulting in Aeryn's death at the end of season 2 (although she then comes back, somehow - dunno how). Crichton then gets the chip removed, but discovers that the clone still lives in his head - over the course of season 3 he 'tames' it, though, and it becomes known as Harvey - an essentially benign, often humourous version of Scorpy who often talks to John in pop-culture-ref-heavy scenes inside his head, and is able to advise him on how Scorpius thinks, among other things. However this does mean that John is a bit loopy still, and every now and again Harvey is more of a hindrance than a help. This lasts until Scorpis supposedly removed him when he came onboard Moya, but instead replaced him with a version who seems to combine elements of both versions (Scorpy clone proper and Harvey).
 
  

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