BARBELITH underground
 

Subcultural engagement for the 21st Century...
Barbelith is a new kind of community (find out more)...
You can login or register.


Can of cockblocking worms

 
 
The Puck
23:56 / 19.03.02
If my plans come together (and i love it when that happens) i will be over in the land footlong hotdogs and wrong spelling through the camp America programe, because of this i will have a short time to travel round.

my question is this- where does the diserning english genltleman vist if time is limited and funds are low (shoe-string doesnt quite cover it, its more like flip-flop-thread)

or to crysalise; Where are the essential, must see places to visit in the US?
 
 
netbanshee
00:01 / 20.03.02
...hmmm...depends where you'll end up. I'm in Phila and not to be too bitter about it but you can mark here off your list...I'd say NYC and maybe Cali if you can manage.
 
 
Mystery Gypt
01:00 / 20.03.02
there's a LOT of space here, man, you might want to limit you area, if you have a shoe string budget you might not want to spend it all taking a 5 day bus ride across the entire country. I second NYC and Los Angeles, they are both insane places. You might also want to consider Memphis Tenesse (Graceland) and Roswell New Mexivo (UFOs) for the ultimate in americana.
 
 
The Puck
11:08 / 20.03.02
You see the thing is i dont know where ill be, but i was told its probably the north east New York state kinda thing, any suggestions?
 
 
Cherry Bomb
11:17 / 20.03.02
Um, may I represent here for Chicago?

It's a fabulous city. Great indie music scene. It's (relatively) cheap. You can stay for free.

It really all depends on where you'll be, actually, because unless you have a lot of time on your hands or a lot of airline tickets you'll probably be limited on where you are. The U.S. is a pretty big country (I'm talking in terms of land).
 
 
Shortfatdyke
11:18 / 20.03.02
i spent a couple of weeks in boston and i loved it. took a train to salem, too, which is a nice little town despite the slightly silly witch museum.
 
 
The Puck
11:21 / 20.03.02
is it really THAT big i was under the imperession a few days train journy coast to coast, and is it expensive to travel?

christ i am sooo unprepared
 
 
Cherry Bomb
11:30 / 20.03.02
Well it has been my experience that people from your fair country are often find the vastness of the U.S. a bit of a surprise.

We're just trying to warn you is all.

That said, yes, you COULD make it from coast to coast on a train in a few days, and as far as how expensive it is to travel, well, it depends on where you're going, when you buy your tickets and how good you are at finding a deal. Once upon a time I booked a coast-to-coast train journey via Amtrack that included stops in Boston, NYC, Chapel Hill North Carolina, New Orleans, Los Angeles, San Francisco and back to Chicago for $300. But this was several years ago, and I looked hard to find such a deal. As you're coming in the summer months it might not be so easy.

HOWEVER I know there are "explore America" type deals where you can get deals on Amtrack and the like if you book in your home country (similar to Eurail for us). It's worth looking into.
 
 
The Puck
11:41 / 20.03.02
cheer CB any other tips? im not a yankee virgin i was over there last year for the mardi gras in New Orleans, but i have a feeling that it wasnt prbley the most normal circumstances to vist a big american city
 
 
MJ-12
11:48 / 20.03.02
you might look around Amtrak's site. Our national rail "system".
http://amtrak.com/

The organization of the site is, unfortunately indicative of the systems as a whole.

usa rail pass details at http://amtrak.com/savings/usarail.html

[ 20-03-2002: Message edited by: MJ-12 ]
 
 
Ierne
14:15 / 20.03.02
...where does the discerning english genltleman visit if time is limited and funds are low...Where are the essential, must see places to visit in the US? – Puck

Brooklyn, of course!!!!

We have it all: Pubs, Clubs, Restaurants, Parks, a totally phat Museum, Bookstores, Graveyards, Beaches, Historic Sites...lots of beautiful and diverse People...we even have a Bridge, yo. (More than one, actually...but the Brooklyn Bridge was the first one.)

Come to Brooklyn, Puck. You'll love it.
 
 
grant
17:31 / 20.03.02
Well, what do you do for kicks?
New York is THE city, but if "authentic Americana" is where you're at, New England in the summertime can't be beat. I'm a big fan of Vermont, which is woodsy and small-townsy. Watching Fourth of July fireworks on the state house lawn in Montpelier is one of my favorite memories. There are more communes & collective farms than you can shake a stick at, and every gas station sells Ben & Jerry's factory seconds - ice cream with too much stuff in it for their standards usually, at a cut price. Wild strawberries & blueberries abound.
If you're into neither city nor town, camping on the Appalachian Trail is gorgeous and cheap, if you've got the sleeping bag & tent. Actually, there are lean-tos along parts of the trail, so tents aren't always necessary. I've done a stretch between Vermont & New Hampshire, but it goes basically along the entire eastern US.
West Virginia can be gorgeous & more rural - white water rivers & lots of out-of-the-way places.

That's all basically just the northeast - if you're up to travelling further, you could spend months doing it. I can't, in good conscience, recommend visiting Florida in the summer - it'll be cheaper than during season, but terribly humid. The deserts in the southwest would be marginally more comfortable.

Of course, there's always Vegas. You don't have to spend. You will, but you don't have to. Food is cheap, and in the summer, so are some hotels.

Or, if you have a little more money than you let on, buy tickets for Burning Man.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
19:15 / 20.03.02
All of the things Grant says of New England goes for upstate New York as well...

I just want to reiterate that the United States is fucking enormous, and the culture is not as homogenous as some may think. I think the ideas that have already been offered up are good ones, but I'd recommend that maybe not hit EVERYTHING, it might be more fun to focus on two or three areas of the country rather than try to see everything you can in a mad dash.

Backing up Ierne: please do go to Brooklyn... it's nice, and it's getting better all the time. Brooklyn and Manhattan are so ridiculously close to each other that it's a crime that so many tourists pass up Brooklyn in favor of falling into the same old Manhattan tourist traps. Visit both! Both are great! Hit The Bronx, Queens, Staten Island, Hoboken, Jersey City, and Westchester county while yr at it!
 
 
Lothar Tuppan
19:21 / 20.03.02
San Francisco!!! Go to San Francisco!!!

Or New Orleans. Those are my two favs.

If you're up for a road trip, travelling through the Southwest states is amazingly beautiful. The Painted Desert, Santa Fe, Tuscon, are all really beautiful.
 
 
Mr Tricks
23:33 / 20.03.02
if there's only one place you visit in the US... it MUST be NEW YORK CITY... just to get a scope of it all...

Even post 9/11 it's probably bumping!!!
Brooklyn's Great!!! farther east is Long Island.. with some of the best beachs in the area... great surfing & sailing. if it's late in the summer the ocean water'll be warm... Try & get to Fire Island!!! No cars allowed. take the fiery.

what Grant said is True!!!

The second place you should visit is SAN FRAN!!!
Great food!!! Good music (all types) Beaches are NOT for swimming here... but there's GREAT hiking really easy to get to!!! Besides Me & Lothar are in the Area!!! what more could U ask!!! (though I've been known to blow off meets...)

The deserts of the southwest are mindblowing if you can drive them... Mojave in Southern Cali is in between Los Angeles & Las Vegas.

Vegas is abserd!!! you can get decient hotel deals if you're willing to stay "off of the strip" some will even supply limo service to the main drag/strip...

BURNINGMAN if you can!!!

While trains are MUCH nicer... they are pricer.

Greyhound will get you across the counrty in about 4 days (of Hell) & half the price, but boy... the people you meet!!!

enjoy good luck!!! keep us posted!
 
 
Grendix
02:44 / 21.03.02
Well Puck,
tho no one's mentioned it yet, parts of the South are really nice. I am in Atlanta, and willing to put ya up for a bit. Atlanta has a rich history, a well-blended ethnic culture and some fab resturants. There's the Martin Luther King,Jr tomb to see, and get all kinds of information in the Civil Rights movement, see Stone Mountain with it's carvings of the four Southern generals of the civil war, which you can also hike up the mountainside, or take a cable car to the top and just see for miles around. There's a cool indie-theater scene (of which I am ivolved in, at different theaters) I could take you to the best place for fried chicken I've found in the city, and it's in the heart of Atlanta's gay disctrict (if you call it that) and is in a converted two story house called "Agnes and Muriel's". There's tons more of stuff to do/see here, CNN Center, the High Museum with it's Edvard Munch exhibit of paintings done after he was released from the sanatorium, and to top off your visit, a tour of the Capitalist church of The World of Coca-Cola Museum (joking, really, I've never been there)

oh, yes, it will be warm. but we've got all the sweet tea you can shake a stick at. And if you ask nicely, I can teach you how to say both "ya'll" and "howdy" with a straight face.

Grendix~(ya'll)
 
 
sleazenation
08:43 / 21.03.02
hey,when i went to Atlanta the first place Kali took me was the claremont lounge...
 
 
Ierne
13:17 / 21.03.02
(though I've been known to blow off meets...) – PATricky

Aw dude...we knew you had a major deadline. No biggie – next time I go we'll hang.

San Francsico is another majorly excellent town. It's very walkable, people are friendly, there's incredible cultural diversity, and the Casanova Bar on Valencia & 16th over in the Mission is incredible. There's a Bay, an Ocean and Golden Gate Park. Lots of good eatin' over there too!
 
 
The Puck
12:03 / 22.03.02
Big grins all round, ill probley start a more detailed thread when im a little more shore of any details, im just trying to get a feeel of the sort of places i should definatly check out.

(cant wait for NY city though)
 
  
Add Your Reply