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Making the Nation

 
 
Ethan Hawke
17:24 / 23.09.02
Taking as a fait accompli the American conquest and occupation of Iraq, if you were suddenly and inexplicably put in charge of "nation-(re)building" a war-torn country, what would be your guiding principles for assembling a stable nation (or nations) out of the wreckage that will be Iraq?

In another thread, nutella23 has linked to an article detailing the c.v. of a man who is apparently America's choice (tm) to head up a post-Hussein government. General Nizar Al-Khazraji seems a singularly bad choice because, as the article alleges, he was involved in gassing Iraq's Kurdish population as well as the grand guignol crime of kicking a Kurdish child to death.

As the rebels in Kurdish controlled northern Iraq would likely be America's number one ally on the ground, it stands to reason they'd want a certain recompense for their sacrifices. Namely, a Kurdish state. However, America's ally Turkey wouldn't stand for the creation of an independent Kurdish state, as they have "problems" with their Kurdish minority population as well.

Add to this mess the Shiite minority in Iraq, doubtless Iranian and Saudi meddling, "al qaeda", what's a nation planner to do?

How does one balance the interests of differing national groups, while forming a western-style democracy (presumably, that would be the plan)? Is it better to cut up the country on ethnic lines into autonomous states, or force everyone to "play nice" even though they might've kicked each other's children to death. Do we want a government that "looks like Iraq"? Or seperate-but-equal governments? What is a nation anyway, when borders in this part of the world are so permerable (more so in Central Asia than in the middle east, I guess, but still permeable)

The apposite examples would be the former parts of Yugoslavia and our nearly year-old experiment in Afghanistan. Before offering my own thoughts one how and why nations should be composed, I want to do a little more reading on both situations (though Yugoslavia I could be reading about for years).

Naturally such a project smacks of colonialism; however, with your imaginary selection as grand puba of Iraqi reconstruction, you can try to undo the damage done by colonialism in the first place, being benevolent dictators I know you are. In any case, if the idea of slicing up Iraq is distasteful to you, I invite you to discuss the larger issue of "what is a nation?" ,how nationalism and seperatism play out across the globe, and how one can balance the ideals of self-determinism and multiculturalism within a geographic area.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
18:09 / 23.09.02
The apposite examples would be the former parts of Yugoslavia and our nearly year-old experiment in Afghanistan

Very good point and hardly examples which inspire one with optimism. Has to be said that the Bosnian Serbs are, presently, a bit of a busted flush and that little girls can go to school in Kabul now.

I wonder how relevant the older examples of Japan and Germany are? Both nations which trod a very different path after governmental and military strictures were imposed by the allies, busy making a nation in the wake of that war?
 
 
nutella23
18:58 / 23.09.02
Maybe some sort of radical power-sharing arrangement that involves autonomous regionality and consensus-style decision making via a national assembly instead of nationhood for various minorities. Like an Iraqi "confederation". That way, the Kurds in the north and the Shiites in the south get a bigger say in how the nation would be run, but at the same time they would still be part of an independent Iraq, and not pose tempting targets for either Iran or Turkey. "Strength in Numbers" and all that. Maybe add a UN protective force on the Kurdish regional border for safety's sake. Not sure if purely American-style democracy is neccessarlily the answer, I don't think its a one-size-fits-all solution at this point.

Besides, the US doesn't have a pure democracy. Ask anyone involved in clean-elections/campaign finance reform about this sometime. Nor can we be said to have pure capitalism anymore than the Soviets had pure communism. (Looks good on paper. In practice its a whole other ball game.) Take China for instance. Is that pure communism (or Maoism)? They have a unique set-up whereby they actually have a "Commisar in charge of McDonalds". Works for them I guess...Point being: any form of govt. established will inevitably "mutate" over time, due to both internal and external factors. In the case of the US, its primarily due to the increasing strength and influence of corporations and special interest groups. There is room for reform in the US system, but implementing it is another story.

If a new regime is brought to Iraq, it should ideally be as open-ended as possible in that it would accomodate a variety of scenarios based on population shifts, economics, and other factors that could conceivably have a major impact on the power-sharing arrangement. Maybe have it be comparable to the EU "in miniature"?
 
  
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