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Magick and Politics: The Three Pillars

 
 
illmatic
14:49 / 18.09.02
Hi all
I thought I would stick up a link to this article in the hope of stimulating a bit of discussion. The Beast Bay site from which it was taken has now been archived, following some kind of crash. I used to like it because amongst all the tedious arguments about what kind of chewing gum Crowley used while receiving THe Book of the Law, you'd often find unexpected links to all kinds of libertarian ideas and philosophies. I thought this might make a nice adjunct to the New forms of Magick thread, broadening this out from more, erm, "technical" issues to the social role of magick and emerging new religons. I don't consider myself a thelemite (much) but we're all contributing to the ideas discussed here by generating our own practices. How about it? Any thoughts on the three pillars, thelema or the social and political implications of these wacky beliefs? I personally think spiritul practice informing political ideas, and vice-versa is omething to be welcomed.
 
 
Seth
12:50 / 22.09.02
"We are, I think, on the verge of a new global paradigm of spirituality, akin to when the Roman Empire introduced the unification of Christianity. So lets bring what's valuable from the world's traditions to the table. Whatever name our new spiritual worldview takes, we need to make the Three Pillars of Thelema a part of it. "

Great article.

Up to now I'd been thinking that I needed to rediscover a more syncretist Christianity, allowing freedom of sacred expression and lifestyle. I still think this is necessary, as strong dialogue needs to be maintained with those within organised religion: I believe reformers committed to reviving and changing institutions from within are needed as much as radical theorists who operate outside institutions. Maybe I'm misguided. We'll see.

A while ago I believe either Jack Fear of grant (apologised to my esteemed fellow for my lack of memory) posted a topic in the Conversation forum on codes of conduct. The above article posits some very good elements that could be included in such a code. I The American Constitution was mentioned in a conversation I had yesterday, a document that forms the basis of some of the observations in the linked article. It would be extremely interesting to draft a code of conduct informed by such concerns, ignoring all that are not universal, in as concise a format as possible.

Would anyone be interested in having a go at this? Purely as an exercise, nothing that we have to nail our colours to.
 
 
illmatic
14:09 / 23.09.02
Thanks for your response, Exp. I agree with you about establishing links with those within established traditons. I think this could be one of the most challenging parts of any programme as perhaps it's harder to work within a tradition than to break, and form another seperate group. Thinking along these lines gives me a new insight into the commitment people may have to their own traditions and the trauma of breaking with them.
One interesting thing that comes out of consideration of the issues is that of personal religous experience versus the social role of religon. How are the two to be balanced? This takes ideas like magick from a personal, hermetic path to something more social and implies the idea of "service" I suppose. I don't have any answers to this, I'm just pondering out loud.
As to the code of conduct thing: The above article is interesting in it's brevity, I thought, rather than get bogged down in complexities it seems to be making things as focused as possible. Perhaps Crowley went one further with his reduction of everything down to "Do What thou Will" or his "Liber Oz" (which has never "scanned right" for me for some reason). Hmmm, well I feel quite daunted by the idea of attemptong to draft my own but it's certainly worth attempting as an experiment.
 
 
illmatic
14:10 / 23.09.02
And re: that quote: I hope he's right!
 
 
Seth
18:54 / 23.09.02
The interface between one's personal experience and the social aspect offered by religion is a much grayer area than I generally see posted round these parts. For example, the majority of the people in my old church had a personal experience of their God, which usually tied in to the experience of those around them and the consensus belief. It's easy to have an individual relationship with the sacred that closely mirrors that of the congregation if you restrict the amount of alternative sources of learning to things which are purely Biblical. However, that certainly doesn't mean their experience is any less personal and affecting, or any less sacred.

If we're to be honest, how many people actually want a uniquely personal, individual experience of the numinous, unlike anyone elses? Most people seem to be happy with just any sacred encounter, formulaic or otherwise.

If we're to look at society as a whole, then I think the role played by the shaman in the community is a good model. The shaman is a specialist like any other, comparable to a plummer or electrician, called in for specific tasks. Not everyone is called to do that kind of work, but everyone recognises and respects that it's important to have a fireman around when things catch fire... or if a cat gets stuck up a tree. Moreover, the shamans worked alongside the religious community, in a recognisably different role to the priest (although there are probably exceptions to this). In a perfect world, practitioners of magick would be able to do the same. In fact, in some areas it's already occuring, with some Christian groups working alongside witches in cases of psychic phenomena, exorcism and the paranormal (I can't remember the title of the book I read about this, but it was written by investigators of the paranormal based in Anglican churches - I think - and is sold in your average Christian bookshop. It had some fabulous guidelines for dealing with cases of possession).
 
 
Seth
19:00 / 23.09.02
Hmmm. Did I just use the phrase, "my old church?" It's actually my current church. What a revealing slip... I'm going to have to tread very carefully if I'm to maintain any kind of reforming role in that community. Or maybe I'm just too far removed now for other Christians to be able to relate to?
 
 
illmatic
10:29 / 24.09.02
I find it interesting that you write that most people in your church have had some sort of personal experience of God. In my ignorance, I'd assumed that that didn't really happen that much in churches. I'd never taken that further to consider why people might be going to them. Myself, I too would be happy with any encounter or lived understanding of the texts I read and am interested in. I think the moment this happens for you, it's argueable away from the "formulaic", whatever occurs. One smidgin of direct experience being worth a thousand books and arguements.
 
  
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