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The Silver Hand: Disability and High Office (with particular reference to the US, probably)

 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
16:25 / 17.09.02
This thread about Christopher Reeve mentioned the possibility of Reeve becoming president., and sparked discussion of whether this could happen while he was stil paralysed. Discussion then moved in to Dole and McCain downplaying their varius infirmities, FDR's polio, and whether somebody with a declared physical defect of this kind could ever hold high office.

If so, why?

If not, why not?
 
 
Not Here Still
19:33 / 17.09.02
Point one; your abstract is unclear. Can the disabled hope to attain high office? Ask our Home Secretary. Or his fuckin' guide dog.

(Quick aside; The shadow home secretary once recalled the one and only time he ever seemed to catch Blunkett off-guard politically. He sat down, thinking he had at last made a good point and had Blunkett looking stupid, only to be told Blunkett wasn't uneasy because of what had just been said, but because his guide dog had just been sick in the House of Commons)

If so, why?

Why fucking not? You argue in the other thread about the prejudices of voters, but I don't think this is the case. Certainly hasn't harmed Blunkett.

Politicians seem, in many cases, to think less of the public than necessary. I see no reason why a politcian in a wheelchair - and if you meant this, say it next time - should not be voted an American president in the future.

Unless he's black, of course....
 
 
Persephone
21:15 / 17.09.02
I probably need a nap. I don't know why this seems so confusing to me...

FDR definitely avoided being seen in a wheelchair for the clear reason that he did not wish to be perceived as disabled. Conventional wisdom is often misguided, but I believe that conventional wisdom casts the FDR story squarely in the past --i.e., people may not have been accepting of a disabled person as president fifty years ago; but knowing that FDR performed his presidential duties as ably as any other person, we no longer have this prejudice... which could be poppycock. His statue in the FDR Memorial depicts him in a wheelchair --but the wheels are mostly obscured by folds of robe and very tiny, more like casters.

Also, the way that I'm remembering the Dole campaign is that his disability wasn't hidden. I don't mean that they constantly showed his withered arm on the news, just that he talked about it freely enough. I didn't know the thing about John McCain losing his grip, though --or I thought I did, but I wasn't thinking literally at the time. Then again, they didn't get elected.

So I'm trying to figure out this: today knowing the example of FDR, would voters still reject a candidate who was disabled? And taking it as a given that the media would not be as accommodating as they were back then. Have attitudes toward the disabled not really changed in the intervening years, despite a fairly full-court press by the ADA? Are we just conscious about we're supposed to say in public about the disabled just being "differently abled," but we stick to our subconscious guns in the voting booth?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
04:20 / 18.09.02
Why fucking not? You argue in the other thread about the prejudices of voters, but I don't think this is the case. Certainly hasn't harmed Blunkett.

Perhaps the example is better suited to America, and also to elected posts. Blunkett was elected to be one of several hundred MPs. He was subsequently raised by Prime Ministerial fiat to his "high office". You fucking moron.

Gosh, this fuck talk does does help a well-argued point. Fuckety fuck fuck.
 
 
Shortfatdyke
09:44 / 18.09.02
As a point of interest, I have seen at least one cartoon in the press equating Blunkett's vision impairment with stupidity ('the blind leading the blind'). And it was also used by the media to attack the National Union of Teachers' activists who 'terrorised' him and his guide dog by protesting loudly when he turned up at their conference a couple of years back. I wouldn't have thought we'll ever see a head of state with a noticeable or severe physical disability, because it it perceived as weakness.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
15:21 / 18.09.02
But would someone who has been disabled by chance and dealt with it 'bravely' (pace; every news report on Reeve since the accident) stand a better chance than someone with the 'cripple' gene? Because, obviously, they're the wrong sort of person, where as Reeve is the ubermensch brought low.
 
 
grant
15:53 / 18.09.02
Does Cheney's stent count?
 
 
Fist Fun
07:56 / 19.09.02
I remember an arictle during the presidential election comparing the fitness regimes of the two candidates. Apparently, they both jog, keep fit, and are very unlikely to have a heart attack during a key trade negotiation. So there was a very obvious focus on physical wellbeing and capability there. How would a disabled person fit into that sort of analysis? Perhaps it was just a throwaway news feature...

Similarly I watched Popstars the Rivals last weekend. They had a visually impaired lad trying out for a part in a boy band. Voice wise he rocked and the panel put him through to the next round - but with the warning don't get your hopes up, there is a lot of movement and dancing involved, it isn't just about singing. I don't think there is anyway he could be a part of a full on take that style dance routine band (or could he? is that prejudice on my part?), but presumably the format of the band could change to make best use of his talents.
 
  
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