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I feel a bit sorry for "American Taliban" kid

 
 
Yankee Doodledandy
00:37 / 25.01.02
I know most of my fellow yanks are screaming for his head, but . . . I can't help but feel somewhat sympathetic towards him. Why?

Well, all my life I've heard that old garbage about "America - love it or leave it." Okay, Walker LEFT it. And he's not coming back begging for readmission - WE WENT AND GOT HIM AND BROUGHT HIM BACK. And now we want to prosecute him for leaving in the first place. How does THAT work?

So I guess the moral here is if you don't like America, you'd better like getting your arse kicked?

-yankee
 
 
Hieronymus
03:14 / 25.01.02
Yep. Pretty lousy huh? This whole bullshit about 'treason' really raises my hackles. It's like they brought Tailgunner Joe back from the dead. Bastards. Have you read the polls? The public would be happy to see him strung up by his thumbs just for happening to fight for 'the wrong side'. And the attacks on his parents and even his town as a 'breeding ground of liberal parenting' just reeks of so much narrow-minded patriotic tripe.

Why not simply prosecute him along with the other prisoners of wa----excuse me--- 'unlawful combatants' <makes masterbatory pantomines>? Singling him out because he's a Yankee is just so much special treatment/ fodder for another O.J. media carnival. Yay.


Why don't they just wheel out HUAC and the flogging posts again? Grrrrr. Nationalism. Grrr.
 
 
Hieronymus
03:16 / 25.01.02
Yep. Pretty lousy huh? This whole bullshit about 'treason' really raises my hackles. It's like they brought Tailgunner Joe back from the dead. Bastards. Have you read the polls? The public would be happy to see him strung up by his thumbs just for happening to fight for 'the wrong side'. And the attacks on his parents and even his town as a 'breeding ground of liberal parenting' just reeks of so much narrow-minded patriotic tripe.

Why not simply prosecute him along with the other prisoners of wa----excuse me--- 'unlawful combatants' <makes masterbatory pantomines>? Singling him out because he's a Yankee is just so much special treatment/ fodder for another O.J. media carnival. Yay.


Why don't they just wheel out HUAC and the flogging posts again? Grrrrr. Nationalism. Grrr.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
10:30 / 25.01.02
and he does look quite hunky with his new hairdo.

watch this boy.

he'll become a huge celeb.

I'm sure of it.

oh, and the unwitting leader of a new cult.
 
 
netbanshee
12:56 / 25.01.02
yeah...I think even if he did more than defect to the other side and officially became a national in the Middle East, he'd somehow be facing similar charges. He representational and most people thrive on that...never emerging too far behind the presentation...

I don't like the fact that he had his hand in the chaos that has emerged, but he leaned that way prior to any conflict. It seemed to just be mostly bad timing on his part in general.
 
 
kid coagulant
13:22 / 25.01.02
Heard on NPR this morning that Walker/Lindh has reportedly been asking for a lawyer from the get-go, and only got when they moved him to VIrginia. And that his 'confession' may be thrown out because he was denied due process. This guy could walk.
 
 
netbanshee
13:56 / 25.01.02
Would be funny...but I bet a pickup truck full of hicks he won't make it to the quickie mart...
 
 
Haus about we all give each other a big lovely huggle?
14:03 / 25.01.02
Why "American Taliban"? Are there many of him? Like Madrox, the Multiple Man?
 
 
Haus about we all give each other a big lovely huggle?
14:07 / 25.01.02
Why "American Taliban"? Are there many of him? Like Madrox, the Multiple Man?
 
 
kid coagulant
14:19 / 25.01.02
Have yet to see any 'Free John Walker' t-shirts, but I imagine they'll eventually pop up. Talk about an anti-hero.
 
 
netbanshee
14:25 / 25.01.02
quote:Have yet to see any 'Free John Walker' t-shirts, but I imagine they'll eventually pop up.

I like the idea of subversion, but I fear I don't have the balls to try that one out. Have u been outside lately...of course this is an american speaking...
 
 
sleazenation
14:49 / 25.01.02
I figured anyone who saw a free john walker sign would immediately demand free whiskey...
 
 
Molly Shortcake
03:52 / 26.01.02
American Taliban....

add that to my list of rap names that can never be used: Uncle Adolf and Big Daddy Farakahn.
 
 
Tempus
23:17 / 26.01.02
quote:Originally posted by invix:
... Walker/Lindh has reportedly been asking for a lawyer from the get-go, and only got when they moved him to VIrginia...


The whole idea of trying POWs like criminals is a hornet's nest of ugly things just aching to happen. Due process simply can't be made to occur in the normal sense (i.e.--there are no Public Defenders in Afghanistan, so there's
no way Walker can have a lawyer until he gets either to the US or somewhere reasonably close), so you have to come up with something like this ill-advised military tribunals idea which may or may not be constitutional (spent awhile on this in Constitutional Law a week ago--it's quite murky), and will undoubtably be perceived by the world at large as unfair. An international tribunal, like that at Nuremburg, would be the best bet, but the US doesn't want to share its "justice"--ironic because, as it stands, whether it will be justice at all with only the US handling it is highly questionable.
 
 
The Damned Yankee
06:17 / 27.01.02
You gotta feel sorry for this guy. He's just a kid, for God's sake. He got himself in deep over his head and now he could spend the rest of his life in jail for happening to be in the way of an American bombing camaign.

Besides, if anyone whould be called "American Taliban", it's Jerry Falwell and his fellow fundies.
 
 
Mystery Gypt
22:47 / 27.01.02
i kinda think the kid rocks, i'm hoping he launches a gramscian book writing career in prison. when more kids start thinking the osama crew is cool -- like "satanists" walker will have his infamy.

it is sad that he just wandered off to pursue a life of being totally not an american and then winds up being nailed because of the shitstorm.

HOWEVER, it is also said that he knew about the attack 3 months prior to september 11. and that's a real sticking point ofr me on making the guy a hero.

also, this whole, "he just a baby" business -- christ, he's 20 years old! when are americans going to grow the fuck up?
 
  
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