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WWE Gay Wedding??? Wha??

 
 
Ethan Hawke
16:33 / 13.09.02
Wrestlers Going to the Mat For Gay Rights? Not Exactly. (Washington Post)
Let me preface this by saying I don't watch the WWF (WWE I mean...E!) so I don't know how accurate the above linked article is. But apparently there's been for quite some time an overtly homoerotic tag team, featuring these two gentlemen, Billy and Chuck:

They were supposed to get "married" on WWE Smackdown last night. I didn't see it, but from the description in the article (which contains spoilers, if you haven't seen it) makes the thing sound as entertaining as the Anna Nicole Smith show. And just as gay.

From the article:
It was a whirlwind engagement: In front of God and everybody last week in an arena in Green Bay, Wis., Chuck got down on one knee, pulled a diamond ring from his tights and popped the question. Billy wept with joy, and accepted.

Two and a half millennia after the Greeks first grappled with the curious homoerotic aura of wrestling, Billy and Chuck have spent the current WWE season overtly flirting with one another -- delighting the audience and taunting their opponents with their blooming togetherness.


I don't really have too much to say about this, except "wow" and "what's the deal?"
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
19:44 / 13.09.02
Vince McMahon is an incredible businessman, a fact that can only be slightly more easily denied than the fact that he is an asshole.

He has a complete lack of prejudice other than against the poor as he cannot make money from them. Beyond that everyone is considered fair game. While there has been a lack of gay characterisation in wrestling he has never witheld push from a gay character on the grounds that they are gay.

Billy, aka Billy Gunn, aka the One Billy Gunn, aka Mr. Ass is not gay. He is only gay in this incarnation and despite a very poor modicum of wrestling skills is receiving a big push. This kind of tacky sensationalism is no suprise to observers of the wrestling world. Mr McMahon will try anything for a dollar and clearly thinks this will work.

The upside to this deal is that a bunch of otherwise meanly less tolerant people will be exposed to homosexuality in a manner with which they can cope and identify. The WWE is inadvertantly breeding greater tolerance and understanding.

Who would have thunk it?
 
 
bio k9
20:03 / 13.09.02
The upside to this deal is that a bunch of otherwise meanly less tolerant people will be exposed to homosexuality in a manner with which they can cope and identify. The WWE is inadvertantly breeding greater tolerance and understanding.

Until they get their heads bashed in, live on PPV.
 
 
Harold Washington died for you
22:58 / 13.09.02
A lot of the detractors of pro wrestling enjoy calling all the baby-oiled, muscle-bound, body-shaven participants "fags." The introduction of Chuck & Billy is a brilliant defense. "You see, these two guys are G-A-Y gay. Everyone else, by comparison, is so straight he has 10 beautiful female groupies waiting at the hotel he didn't even have the time to fuck. We have located the homosexuals, all is well."

Personally, speaking as a heterosexual male WWE fan, I am pleased. Hopefully Chuck and Billy will get the face-turn they deserve (they have owned the tag team division since they came along) and some of the haters will realize that, at least in the fantasy world of WWE, gay people are just like you and me.
 
 
Harold Washington died for you
23:01 / 13.09.02
And those aforementioned haters will carry this knowledge into the real world.
 
 
Harold Washington died for you
23:28 / 13.09.02
Did I mention the wedding was a stunt? Anywho, it is another testament to Vinnie Mac's genius.
 
 
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12:34 / 14.09.02
Of course, the WWF has a long history of cross-dressers, but I guess that's another story.
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
05:06 / 15.09.02
GLADD is upset about how the gay wedding turned out (It didn't happen due to the wrestlers saying, "It was just a publicity stunt!" and two bad guys taking them out in a sneak attack)...and they publically endorced the wedding and even sent a gravy bowl.

The thing that baffles me is that Vinnie Mac has been trying to do this storyline for a good three years (first with Too Cool), and this was the payoff? You'd think if someone had THREE YEARS to work on a story, they'd have a better one.

But it got ratings up for that night. We'll see if it lasts.
 
 
rizla mission
13:44 / 16.09.02
I saw this whilst flicking 'round channels on saturday morning .. so incredibly fucking weird.. maybe I should watch wrestling more often..

Something I found particularly brain-boggling was the pimp-wrestler guy striding in halfway through with a harem in tow, demanding that the gay wrestlers see sense and "engage his services".. and then just buggering off again without starting a fight or anything.. does that kinda stuff happen often?

It was pretty scary the way the audience booed all the way through the wedding ceremony and then cheered when one of the wrestlers said "hang on a minute, I'm not really gay.."

Pretty challenging stuff for a Saturday morning..
 
 
penitentvandal
15:36 / 16.09.02
'We have located the homosexuals. All is well.'

Great Monty Python sketches that never were, episode one...
 
 
Mourne Kransky
16:45 / 17.09.02
All very interesting. I have rarely watched WWF/E or whatever but have often had a fine time surfing all the gay wrestling and wrestling erotica webrings /sites to be found online. From the business they seem to generate, there must indeed be a buck or two in it for somebody.

I'm not surprised at the unease of the audience though, Rizla, as I know a lot of fairly unreconstructed macho straight men who enjoy watching wrestling and are either immune to the homoeroticism or well aware of it but very uncomfortable when I bring it up. My dear old Dad, for one.

In fairness, my main interest in it would be the sexualised over- and undertones, but I know from their posts that's not what Bear or Solitaire Rose get from it. There is clearly the showmanship but also a lot of skill in executing the standard moves and throws etc.

Obviously there must be guys in professional wrestling who are gay and, as in any other sphere of life, I'd like them all to declare themselves, for the sake of their own peace of mind as much as anything, though big burly macho role models for those struggling in the closet would be a plus too.

Being gay men would then have to be part of their public personae but I'd like to think their wrestling ability would be what bounced viewing figures up rather than the "freak show" aspect. That was the deal in the original naked-Greek-boys-tussling-together set up, after all. The gay stuff was there, because sexual attitudes in general were very different then, but secondary to the skills required to win the bout or contest.

There was an interesting "Faking It" in the past year, on C4 in the UK, where a ballet dancer got a wig and some lycra and spent a month learning the basics, then launched himself very convincingly on the pro wrestling circuit. None of the experts identified him as the fake at the end.

The most interesting thing was that he really got into it, enjoyed it a lot when he got the bug, but was articulate and self-aware enough to be able to describe how his personality had changed. He behaved differently around other men in general and found himself slipping into a much more aggressive and macho posture in everyday life. This came at the cost of being able to talk freely about the things which had previously enthused him, such as his years of study and appreciation of the ballet.

It will come, the day when two gay men who wrestle can get "married" in the ring for real, but acceptance is going to take longer in the arena of full contact sports than in most other areas of life.
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
21:12 / 17.09.02
There was an interesting "Faking It" in the past year, on C4 in the UK, where a ballet dancer got a wig and some lycra and spent a month learning the basics, then launched himself very convincingly on the pro wrestling circuit. None of the experts identified him as the fake at the end.

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That's because he wasn't any more "fake" than The Big Show or Booker T...he learned the moves, learned how to sell and worked on the indy circuit. The minute he got paid he became a pro-wrassler. Wrallin's a weird world, and once you are involved in a promotion of any kind, you are part of it...

I'd love to read more books like Mick Foley and Booby Heenan's that go into what it is like to do that job over years...it's really about the only remaining carny circuit left.
 
  
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