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How the Mediamancy works ?

 
 
rorkboy
11:41 / 13.09.02
Hey, in discussion about urban magick , someone mentioned Mediamancy. Does anyone of you have some experience in it, and could give some examples of exercises, or rituals ? I found the idea of magick based on the media very interesting itself - we live in a world where the media are ubiquitous and they infect and influence every aspect of our live; therefore they have a great potential for use in the magick activity. But how to us it ? I have some idea of simple excercises, for example collages from pres & magazines, but a little help in soapopera-CNN-Newsweek-magick enlightement would be very, very useful :-)
 
 
illmatic
12:25 / 13.09.02
There's a TOPY publication called TV Magick which goes on about this.
The only idea I recall is freeform skrying/divination using a remote control flipping at random and see if this answers your questions.
I haven't trie this for more than 20min and this was about 7 years ago so I can't comment on it's effiency or otherwise. Obviously the more channels you have access to the better.
 
 
penitentvandal
15:25 / 13.09.02
I often cut-up and reassemble newspaper reports in a divinatory effort to find out 'what's really going on', if that helps...It's sometimes useful, but I don't like to do it TOO often because it's one of those magick techniques where every so often you resurface from divinatory trance and go 'Oh, hang on - I've became schizophrenic, haven't I? Arse...'

This is why banishing is very, VERY important, children...Otherwise you'd be going around like a schizo ALL THE TIME...
 
 
rorkboy
18:44 / 13.09.02
I have done newspaper cut-ups myself... i also have idea to sample some radio stations to a computer, and made some collages from news reports or commercials - maybe make an audio sigil from mixed up and cutted messages and words from radio ?
 
 
Anathema
19:13 / 13.09.02
As mentioned above:

Television Magick
 
 
Warewullf
23:53 / 13.09.02
That was me what mentioned Mediamancy.

So, yes to all the above techniques. For an easier method, do what I suggested about looking for meaningful words or phrases in shop names and advertisments on billboards, leaflets, new product displays, anything, really.

The premise behind this is that:
1) The universe/God/Gods/Reptilian World-Dominators (delete as applicable) are constantly trying to tell you important things.

2) He/She/It/They use Media images and slogans as a way of doing this.

So, get into the right headspace (ie. calm down and focus on the task at hand) ask a question and look for the answer all around you. But be sure to get it into your head that whatever jumps out at you IS important and IS significant.
 
 
penitentvandal
16:36 / 15.09.02
Having read the TV magick thing a while ago, in Stewart Home's 'Mind Invaders', I recall that one of the suggested techniques is the use of a 'video tarot' when what they refer to as 'shuffling' technology becomes available. Am I the only guy who thinks about DVDs at this point?

You can get recordable DVDs now. A series of recordings of symbolic clips from the telly, and some way of randomly accessing them (even one as unsophisticated as closing your eyes and using the chapter selection buttons - I don't think DVD players have a random button), and bingo! The world's first digital tarot...
 
 
fluid_state
01:57 / 17.09.02
re: velvetvandal's DVD musings - a random clip/media generator is doable. Macromedia Flash (and Director) are Powerful randomness tools, and both play video files. code a few little randomness functions, build a library of short media bursts, and you are, as they say, golden. as soon as the DVD authoring gets to supporting them, you'll have divinatory technique available on DVD (as opposed the current usage of a web browser or exe file). (if anyone knows of a way to get either software to work as a DVD menu, please PM me!)
 
 
penitentvandal
17:49 / 17.09.02
Here's another ickle idea I came up with. When I write it up properly, I plan to call it 'The Invocation of Saint Carol'.

What you need: banishing tools, ritual mood-setters, a television which shows the Channel 4 quiz 'Countdown', and 45 minutes free time.

What you do:
Perform a banishing and set up your temple, i.e. light candles, incense, whatever kethers your ether. Switch on the television, and watch countdown, preferably with the volume down to avoid the inane banter of the fearsome Outer Church Hyper-Mundane Richard Whiteley. Get into a gnostic state using whatever means is permissible to you, drugs, masturbation, funky voodoo dancing, whatever. Then watch the solutions - AND ONLY THE SOLUTIONS - to the anagrams. DO NOT TRY TO SOLVE THE ANAGRAMS! This will only cause your conscious mind to interefere with the working and balls it all up. Write the solutions down, adding any significant numbers which turn up in the solutions to the maths problems as you see fit. When you have a list of random words generated by this method, and the programme is over, re-arrange the words, cut-up style, until you have a coherent message. Record the message, banish again, and go about your business.

I haven't tried this yet, but I intend to...
 
 
paw
00:56 / 18.09.02
anyone know where i can get reasonably priced topy videos or c.d's?
 
 
macrophage
16:47 / 09.05.04
Say you go on a long train journey you collect all the printed media of people. You then scry through it, i.e., flick through it and let pages, certain pictures, certain memes/word viruses, etc... attract your attention. You can then take the stuff to do a collage or do it in your head. I have scryed into TV Static with usually results that may emenate from my subconcious, but I think if you persevered you could build up some sort of pictorial alphabet fer proper divination. I tend to try and use Jungian type symbolist meanings. When scrying/through changing channels on TV or with also DVD/VHS you can manifest strange/surreal juxtapositions. So the art of collaging the printed media can bring about interesting results, if at least highly symbolic to the individual or collective gestalt. Audiomancy is another wierd one where you attempt to go into such a trance/downtime you attempt to scry personal meaning within soundracks themselves.
 
 
Unconditional Love
20:40 / 09.05.04
mental cut ups.

cutting up consciousness is another way to achieve effects.
it requires you having more than one narrative in your mind ie developing multiple voices,streams of thought, visualisations sounds and images and any other senses you can sucessfully cut in.

to begin with you will have to become aware of the whole of your experience ie internal and external experienced holistically the mergeing of object and subject. then you will need to examine each definaite part that makes that experience, ie senosry components and internal narrative

it is then a case of either breaking these down into smaller component identities or mulitplying them, roleplaying alternatives to your own current perceptions can start this process to begin with and maintaining those perceptions alongside your own as many as you can manage
each should have its own discenable identity.

much like viewing a soap opera and being each character in it then internalising them as personas, independent of the central self that remains as awareness,soap operas are illustartive not to be recommended.

once this has been practiced for some time until each becomes a distinct personality within you as an individual, a moment of convergence can then occur, with various senosry data and internal narratives mixing into a new construct a cut up identity modelled on imagination of various selves, creating a new distinct self.

another way to relate to this would be to consider a group you belong too and how you may pick up various traits from differeing members yet retain you own sense of self awareness, this internal process could also be performed with the cutting and remixing of archetypes rather than personas.

the creation of internal identities also lends itself well too multitasking contemplating from a variety of angles similtaneously etc etc.
 
 
Unconditional Love
20:41 / 09.05.04
ah
wrong thread.
 
 
SteppersFan
14:46 / 16.05.04
Re: TV magick etc:-

If you're going to learn from TOPY stuff, maybe first work through the anti-TV ideas -- "Just say no to death TV" etc. -- before opening yourself up to media divination. (Jeez, am I a nagging old maid or what!)

Another comment: Doing a load of programming to get random TV stuff happening sounds like a lot of work, to me.

And a semi-relevant observation -- I personally am not turned on by the idea of people buying old TOPY stuff, cos it wasn't about money. Guess I could be wrong though...
 
 
XXII:X:II = XXX
19:55 / 17.05.04
What's somewhat amusing to me is that years ago there was a parody book published called The Couch Potato's Guide To Life, which featured illustrations by Bill Griffith of "Zippy" fame. (Side: Anyone notice that one of the biggest trends of parodies in the '80's were "guides to life"? Miss Piggy, Max Headroom, and countless others, too. I think that speaks volumes about the era.) In it, there was a section on using TV to predict the future, which included using static snow as a crystal ball or flipping randomly. (I wish I had it at hand to cite it more accurately; if I'm lucky it's in a box in a basement in Pennsylvania.) I don't think these were intended as serious suggestions, but still, they also seemed to be onto something. That, or we're living out what once was parody. I wonder who's the wiser.

/+,
 
 
slutboy
05:24 / 23.05.04
Wow, first post (I’ve finally stopped lurking).

I’ve been messing around with Mediamancy for about a year now. When it comes to TV my method was:

1) Forget every thing you every heard/read/thought about TV. Get in the state of mind where the only thing you see is the people. Don’t consider anyone a character… for the duration of this process they are all people.
2) Try and empathise with people. Have conversations with them in your mind. Talk to the screen if necessary.
3) Attempt to build a structure/model/reality/entity within your mind that relates to everything you see and hear without ever introducing the concept of TV (or fakery) into it. If you see someone (on TV) watching TV this means you must assume that they are following the same rules as you.
4) Skip channels whenever you feel like it. Include a wide mix of what you watch (try to avoid watching films for more than a few minutes though). Change channels during the adverts.
5) The longer you watch the better (I did about 20 hours). Drink lots of coffee. If you smoke cigarettes (I do) then smoke lots. Don’t worry about when you leave the set (for food etc...)

This is somewhat like viewing TV as a giant memepool and playing joint the dots with everything that comes to the surface (the surface being your ego?). I found this the most rewarding experience of TV that I’ve ever had. Near the end of doing this I had the most intense insight/vision where I saw that DNA could be viewed as “The Environment” and what I considered “The Environment” could be viewed as DNA. This is (obviously) a uniquely personal experience but in terms of my own life it was profound (for those in the UK this happened while watching Richard and Judy… make of that what you will!).

I also messed about with magazines (both before and after the TV thing). The whole of this process was based around creating a response/anti-dote to the magazines I read (TV guides/ life style mags/ trade papers/ free magazines based around marketing demographics). This involved taking an existing magazine (a supermarket self-promotion) and covering the entire publication with my own contents – created entirely by cutting up other magazines and sticking them over the contents of the original. This wasn’t a random cut-up but a self-directed one. I brought everything I considered bad/manipulative about magazines into my conscious and parodied it using rearrangements of the original source material (this was a recursive process – while I scanned the magazines for material to help me parody them the more I realised why I considered this necessary and the form it should take). This wasn’t a purely negative parody, some elements where more “Austin Powers” like). Deeply cynical (re)advertisements played a major part in this. So did presentation of poetry I’d previously written using cut-up images to provide a background for it. My favourite page I entitled “Celebrity Fruit and Veg” – apparently Mira Hindley likes Cabbages…

This may be an unconventional way to interpret Mediamancy, but then maybe that’s the point. I think that much of the power of the media lies in how you it “teaches” you to interpret itself. Once you start considering its language/images yours to read how you like it becomes magickal - an entity that you communicate with (rather than one that oppresses you via propaganda?). Think that depressive person on the talk show is a self-obsessed arsehole? Maybe he’s just a fiction suit designed to teach you an important lesson... Why read about Arnold Schwarzenegger and get angry about his treatment of women – instead he’s a feminist warrior turned double-agent to further there cause via grotesque exaggeration... See a cosmetics advertisement and replace it with a cute, fuzzy animal wishing it was beautiful... Find enlightenment watching day-time TV.
 
 
C.Elseware
09:17 / 31.05.04
An idea I had recently: spamancy. Looking for answers in the random pattern of spam you get. (I get around one every minute day in day out). Possibly assigning various significance to the most common; nigerian scam, via*ra, extra 2 inches, cheap meds, drunk straight boys first time, someone think's you're sexy etc.
 
 
macrophage
17:59 / 31.05.04
Interesting you bring up spam (now brush yer mouth!!!) I've seen an artcle by Taylor Ellwod on doing sigils/collages with the critters. Thought it was humourous since recently alot of the newsgroups have came in for alot of spamming. I usually bin my spam straight away. Intersting though - could you make sigls out of them and then send it back to them?! Funnily enough we dwell in such a commercialised society that I sometimes use certain triggers/anchors for certain godforms sometimes, from remembered adverts and products. Reclaiming spam into a potential talisman sounds a bit like my "Pay It All Back" Servitor that I've used, idea shamelessly appropiated from WSB of course.
 
 
Tom Tit's Tot: A Girl!
00:57 / 04.06.04
I -regularly- get spam with relevant words.

Gnostic, Clangers, Get a bigger unit...

See?

-TTT
 
  
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