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San Francisco: anyone know anything?

 
 
Lilith Myth
08:15 / 13.09.02
I'm doing some copywriting and have to write about SF (and that's not science fiction) and the client's given me shit to go on. Apart from the golden gate bridge, and starsky and hutch and being "the gayest place on earth"... anyone got any ideas; must-see places, movies that were filmed there? anything, really. and my audience is middle-aged men, btw.

ithankyou.
 
 
sleazenation
08:17 / 13.09.02
Alcatraz.
 
 
Rage
08:23 / 13.09.02
I heard there was some shit going on around Haight Street in the 60's, but I could be wrong here.
 
 
jUne, a sunshiny month
08:26 / 13.09.02
maybe buy any Armistead Maupin's book, it's a pretty good view of this town, i guess (even if yeah, its pretty gay-focusalized, but it's damn good for any good taste hetero, too).
and see Bullit (arrhhhh... it's in SF, right ?)
 
 
Lullaboozler
09:26 / 13.09.02
Fisherman's Wharf and the fire, Coight Tower (shaped like a fire hose nozzle), Chinatown, Trams, Marin County to the North and the Californian wineries, oh and The Presidio (military base and film of same name with Sean Connery in it).
 
 
invisible_al
09:46 / 13.09.02
Armistead Maupin didn't have much geography in from what I remember, but it does give the mood quite well.
Eddie Izzard comments on the fog in a big way as well as the lack of taxis.
Wasn't there a Herbie film set in SF as well...

We're a bit pants really aren't we . Are there actually any Barbelithers in SF at all?
 
 
Rage
09:53 / 13.09.02
There are some killer bookstores in the area. Check out The Anarchist Collective on Haight Street, and while you're in the location check out Amoeba Music (best music store ever) and Golden Gate Park. (famous as fuck- still lots of hippies around) The Fillmore is a great place to catch some shows.

You should also go to North Beach. City Lights bookstore is worth the trip alone.
 
 
Rage
09:56 / 13.09.02
And make sure you listen to people bitching about how Amoeba Music took the place of the bowling alley that used to be there.
 
 
Lilith Myth
11:14 / 13.09.02
thanks everyone. this was not pants, it was way more than I knew, and sent me of in the right direction.
 
 
Persephone
11:30 / 13.09.02
There are Barbelithers in SF, but I'd imagine they're still sleeping.

What I *really always* want to contribute to these threads about SF is that Ted Rall cartoon about how the people in SF are such total zombies about how much they love the City. Zounds! The last time this came up, I scoured comic shops and bookstores looking for that cartoon. I'll pay someone to post that cartoon...
 
 
Shortfatdyke
12:32 / 13.09.02
I've been to SF three times and I love it. I felt at home the minute I got there. It's a city of steep hills, but still a place to walk around. Best advice I ever had was to take a tram (the 'F' streetcar that goes down Market Street is a beautiful vehicle, from the 1930s I think), get off at a place you like the look of, and just walk. I love to wander around the Mission district, gaze in awe at the beautiful Mission Dolores church and then take a tram from Church and Market all the way to the ocean. One dollar for a ride, including a transfer, you can't ask for much more. I went to the Women's Building for a gig and there was a sign inside saying what to do in the event of an earthquake. SF will fall into the sea one day. First time I went there was for a queercore festival - for one of the gigs we had to find the industrial area, cross the railway line and find some wasteland by the Bay. A PA was set up and Sparkmarker, Behold The Prophet No Lord Shall Live and Tribe 8 played, among others. That was a day to remember.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
15:00 / 13.09.02
Tony Bennett left his heart there.

As for movies? Dirty Harry or, more favourably, Vertigo. That fucking ROCKS.

Just remember- every cop chase movie needs a scene involving Lombard St. I actually have a friend who's reversed down it. At 3am. While drunk. SHE fucking ROCKS.

Christ. Must not post post-pub.
 
 
grant
15:29 / 13.09.02
the sutro baths were featured in a run of "house of secrets". both in their former glory and their current condition.

Musee Mechanique has moved from near the Baths to the touristy Wharf, where out-of-towners buy creamy clam chowder in sourdough bread bowls, and feed the hordes of fish-stinky sea lions.

There are electric buses everywhere (they run along wires hung over the street), and people use them despite frequent transit worker strikes and breakdowns. Same for the BART trains.

Rents are ASTRONOMICAL, so even young professionals have housemates. Food, on the other hand, isn't that bad - once I went out to a Chinese place (very Chinese - had trouble translating the menu) with four friends and spent $30 for all five of us. Berkeley and Oakland are to SF as Hoboken and Union City are to Manhattan. I'm not sure what the corresponding cities would be in London, but the deal is they're close enough that you can say "I live in San Francisco" to someone from out of town, but it'll take you more than half an hour to actually get across the bay into town.

Paradoxically, it's my impression that places near the Pacific Ocean are more affordable and less "hip" than places inland, closer to the city center. I have a friend with a nice place in Sunrise that would probably cost at least twice as much in the Haight.

The Mission District is run down, being gentrified (constantly) and the best area to get Mexican food.

There are a *lot* of bicyclists. I think the "Critical Mass" thing started in SF - it's certainly the first place I heard of/saw one. (It's an event when a huge number of cyclists congregate and ride together down a set route in the middle of the city, reminding motorists that bicycles use the streets too.)

There are a LOT of hills, and watching fog roll in over the "twin peaks" is fairly dramatic.

If you go north over the Golden Gate Bridge, you'll wind up in Sausalito (think 20-foot sailing yachts, nouvelle cuisine bistros) and then in Muir Woods, one of the most mystically dramatic places on the planet.
 
 
grant
15:31 / 13.09.02
Oh, and since you asked, Return of the Jedi was filmed in Muir Woods.

Here are other films done in the area.

Tony Shaloub's new (really fun) TV detective show, "Monk," is shot in SF.
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
19:35 / 13.09.02
For down to earth reference info on the area pick up a copy of The Rough Guide. I think that there is a mini city edition for SF but otherwise go for the Cali version.

Alcatraz should be visited on an early morning with a camera loaded wityh pushed B&W film for the best effects.
 
 
De Selby
02:03 / 14.09.02
hehe Bullit was shot there.

go Steve!
 
  
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