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Camper Van Beethoven covers Fleetwood Mac...

 
 
Jack Fear
12:27 / 04.09.02
...and not just a single song, either: they've reinterpreted the entire Tusk album. Full story hither.

What an odd thing.

Other bands have done similar things: I'm not a fan meself, but I understand that Phish has a tradition, at its annual New Year's eve shows, of covering an entire record in a variety of styles—the Beatles' White Album and the VU's Loaded among them.

I think we can all appreciate the beauty of a good cover tune—the idea of reinventing a song, of making it one's own, of finding and exposing hidden depths and meanings—but to cover and entire album, and a not-particularly-cohesive one at that?

If CVB were covering an album with a strong unifying concept or style, that'd be another thing... or would it? Does the simnple proximity of the songs on Tusk constitute a unifying factor? What makes an album cohesive?

In the days of vinyl, before random-shuffle CD jukeboxes, there was a fixed, immutable quality to albums, and part of what gave songs their context was the position in which they appeared: when I first started upgrading my albums to CD, I would occasionally come across one where the track order varied slightly between the vinyl and CD versions—and that minor recontextualization made a difference to how I heard those songs. Proximity = not cohesion, exactly, but one version of it.

Lot of questions raised here. What questions does it make you ask? Is it, at its core, a good idea? bad one? neutral one? been done before? how'd it work out?

Thoughts, please.
 
 
I, Libertine
17:14 / 04.09.02

I was at one of those reunion shows; it was the crux.

I bought CVB's Tusk at the show, and I think it was a "good idea." It's great as a Camper record! (Helps that I heard the complete Camper version first...) In the liner notes they thank Fleetwood Mac for the "blueprint" if that explains anything. Seems like Tusk was the misunderstood album of Fleetwood Mac that is now praised...kind of like Camper's Key Lime Pie was panned on release and later praised by the same critics who lambasted it.

It works because it is not a "shot-by-shot" remake. They do Tusk as a Camper van Beethoven record. I don't think an album with a "strong unifying concept or style" would be the best choice for a remake...such a work would leave little, if any, room for interpretation. That's why Van Sant failed at Psycho...he wasn't trying to re-make it; he was trying to do it just as well as Hitchcock. Which, in my opinion (and I'd imagine the opinion of a few others) isn't possible.

But a scattered, divisive album like Tusk...why not? It's very interesting to listen to...probably more "for the fans" than anyone else. Maybe it comes down to that: if you like a band, it is engrossing to hear them interpret someone else's work. Phish fans love their version of The Beatles, while others say "Huh?"

It should be noted that Camper did it on a whim (according to Victor Krummenacher at the Magnetic guestbook, that "frenzied" weekend was fueled by a hell of a lot of blow), and chose to revive it since the tapes were lying around. What else do you release when the band has been dormant for 10 years?
 
 
grant
17:35 / 04.09.02
More bands should definitely do the same.

Rock lives by reinterpretation: call & response.

And this one rocks me, even though it's partially, well, like listening to rehearsal tapes. Which, in a way, it was.

Oddly (since I don't listen to a lot of music at work), the CD is sitting right next to the computer. I may put it in in a minute.

Unlike Van Zant's PSYCHO (but like Laibach's "Let It Be"), it's also damn funny at first... and then sort of slides into something other and cool and scary and different.
 
 
grant
19:30 / 04.09.02
Oh, and listening to it now, it's worth mentioning that they interpolate OTHER covers into the album. So in the middle of one song, Lowery goes off quoting "Rock Lobster," or in the backing to another, you start hearing one of the other guys chanting stuff from "I Am the Walrus." I'd say synthesis, but it's something more than that.
 
 
at the scarwash
00:46 / 05.09.02
Pussy Galore did that cover of Exile on Main Street, wasn't it? I've only heard bits of it. But then again, Jon Spencer's always wanted to be like the Stones, only with everyone in his band being Keef.

I like the idea of covering an entire album, but it's got to be done a) better than the original, or just very different and good, or b) at a dead spot in someone's career where they really haven't got much else to do.

Isn't that guy from the Stone Roses doing Thriller? Might as well, I guess (see b above), especially since the Nose of Pop's song catalog must be going for fire sale prices right about now.
 
 
I, Libertine
18:43 / 10.09.02

CVB chimes in:

The last words on the cover of Tusk are David Lowery saying, "Ehh...this was a bad idea. (laughter)."
 
 
Murray Hamhandler
22:50 / 10.09.02
Last Halloween, there was a "cover band costume" show here in Bloomington, where pre-established local bands played as other, more well known bands, mixing the respective styles a bit. I think this is a nifty idea, to toss one's own sensibilities into a pre-existing mold and see what comes out.
 
 
tSuibhne
00:56 / 11.09.02
"Other bands have done similar things: I'm not a fan meself, but I understand that Phish has a tradition, at its annual New Year's eve shows, of covering an entire record in a variety of styles—the Beatles' White Album and the VU's Loaded among them."

As the former Phish fan, I guess I should clarify. It was Halloween, not NYE. The idea was the band would put on a "musical costume." Like the CVB it was more a laugh then anything else.

In the end, they did four albums, before getting bored and stopping:

Beatles: White Album
The Who: Quadrophenia
Talking Heads: Remian In Light
Velvet Underground: Loaded.

Apparently, the VU album was a comprimise. Trey (guitar) and Page (keyboards) wanted to do My Bloddy Valentine's Loveless. Trey apparently had this vision of 15-20 guitar amps set up so each was a second or two behind the one in front of it. In the same interview when Trey talks about this, he says that Kevin Shields was his favorite guitarist at the moment. This was in a period where the band was experimenting with full band "free" improvisation.

BTW, the first two albums were decided by a fan poll. This got nixed, I assume because the band was bored with the obvious suggestions. Interestingly enough, that last year people were down right begging for Dark Side of the Moon. A few nights after Halloween, at one of the least attended shows on the tour, the band did most of DSoM. They seemed to be getting off at this period with tweeking fans (the "free" experimentation pissed alot of people off, cause they couldn't dance to it). They'd gone on hiatus a few years later.

Oh, and the Halloween shows where they did this were always three set shows (reguliar shows were two sets), the second set was the album.
 
  
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