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Magic mirror?

 
 
ciarconn
14:03 / 02.09.02
What is the magic mirror in the invisibles? It popped on a refference to New x-men, and I do not understand it
 
 
penitentvandal
14:13 / 02.09.02
It's sort of like ectoplasm. But it's also the basic material of the universe itself...Some characters in the Invisibles can sort of puke out this magic mirror stuff and achieve magickal effects with it, Lord Fanny and Jim Crow in particular.

It's also God, an alien, and the human soul.

It's...complicated.
 
 
Papess
14:26 / 02.09.02
Wow, that is cool.

*cough*

I think I am smoking the stuff.


My girl and I used to call it Wacky mo-mo.

~MT
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
14:39 / 02.09.02
As far as I'm aware, 'Magic Mirror' or 'Le Mirroir Fantastique' in The Invisibles is Grant Morrison's riff on something which Michael Bertiaux writes about in the infamous and out-of-print 'Voudon Gnostic Workbook'. I think this original concept has probably merged with some of the material from Grant Morrison's abduction experience on its way to appearing in the comic, and I'm not sure how much of the stuff about magic mirror in The Invisibles still relates to the Bertiaux version of the 'substance' and how much it has diverged into something else. The best place to read about the abduction stuff is probably Morrison's travelogue piece 'It was the 90's' which appeared in a book of travel writing a couple of years back, can't remember the title of the anthology off-hand.
 
 
Seth
20:48 / 02.09.02
It's also clearly linked to the prima materia in alchemy: the formless, chaotic substance from which everything is eventually formed and transformed. I had a dream in which I saw it and its effects recently (please excuse the Star Trek references. I frequently get them in my dreams, and they say all sorts of fun occult stuff, but I'm aware they may seem a bit odd for anyone who's not a semi-Trekkie like me. When I say semi-Trekkie, I mean that the whole of Voyager, and half of Next Gen and the Original Series are irredeemable shite) - the following is the relevant excerpt from my dream journal:

My whole nuclear family is now in some kind of future New York/San Francisco. There are snakelike train tunnels that curl around a giant central structure, protruding out over the city towards the sea in one place like a huge beak. We are watching/involved with a new Star Trek movie, and it's unlike anything I've ever seen. All the characters are inside the central structure, for reasons unknown - they may be just visiting. Some kind of anomaly exists here, and the characters venture inside it one by one, to bathe. It has transformative properties - to the outsider it looks as though it is a swirling mass of multi-coloured energies, encompassing anyone who ventures inside. However, it looks like more than just energy, like clouds of congealed baileys as it curdles when pured into other spirits, or oil poured across water forming rainbows, or the Aurora Borealis. It seems to be utterly unknowable, defying all attempts to explain the centre, as though it conceptually contains far more than it visually contains, and it visually contains more than is describable in words. For now it is a localised phenomena, appearing on the upper level of a lounge/office area, and can be entered. After waking, the area in which it occupied reminded me of Venus' open clam. Female characters bathe in its waters, and are covered in soap, an amusing reference to Marvel comics bathing scenes, in which the bubbles and steam obscure the nudity. This is not a sexual image, primarily - although it has a primary essence that encompasses all sexuality. As characters bathe they are transformed, and it has an enebriating effect, slowly transforming them into something other. I have many rememberances of a drunken Picard, trying to explain/defend the anomaly. At one stage, two more characters arrive on the floor below the office: in the office we hear a knocking sound from below, and then sddenly a panel in the shape of a semi circle (dvided into two quarter circles) gives way under his feet, and he tumbles into the floor before. Data becomes entirely bald in its waters, and seems to develop characteristics of that unknowable other (he seems to develop mystic properties). One character enters to become a living lake in human form, a being made of pure water, with fish swimming inside him (I do not remember which character). Finally Wesley and one other character (forgotten who) arrive to save the day (typical shitty Star Trek narrative - I hate Wesley Crusher). They encounter Picard before they arrive, and his transformation is amazing: he is becoming a living tree, with branches protuding out of him at crazy angles, an untidy knot of them protruding from his forehead. He has a three meter long branch instead of a tongue, which interferes when he tries to speak. This section of the dream ends with the giant "beak" opening in a rush, and the energy/anomaly it contains sweeping in a huge arc over the future city, the Enterprise flying alongside it (dwarfed by it's size), and a voiceover (Picard) saying that this may be the final stable wormhole known to man.
 
 
salthigh
14:45 / 17.09.13
It may be these things and more and yet the Magical Mirror God more closely matches a metaphor for Artificial Intelligence. Inevitable result of the first computer, pariah of the Intelligence Agencies mirrors. It is therefore also a golem.
 
 
salthigh
15:33 / 17.09.13
In the same vein the head of John the Baptist comes to light as the Differential Engine of Babbage.
 
 
Photonics
12:15 / 29.01.14
The primordial substance...
 
 
shamansun
18:20 / 09.02.14
I'm new here and came to check out the replies. All of them make sense. I'd like to think this is based on Morrison's own experiences at Kathmandu, but could easily be based on his voluminous research into the occult. Love the alchemical reference by a previous poster. Quicksilver. Mercurial. Yes, this seems to be partly right.

From what I remember, Morrison references it in the comic as... a 5th dimensional liquid? A kind of portal outside of our sliver of time.
 
 
ima_goner
00:59 / 27.02.14
The lasting impression i got was that it is the amniotic fluid of the universe, of all dimensions, that which we can and can't (yet) perceive.
 
 
LykeX
21:05 / 16.11.14
I seem to vaguely recall something about a sweat-like substance extruded by amazon shamans, and this being connected with this concept. Can anyone confirm this?
 
 
Atridr
09:23 / 25.01.15
Based on my own experiences I would say that the Magic Mirror described in The Invisibles is equivalent to the Double described in the works of chaos magick, and in several other occult sources. Basically, it's the manifest quintessential energy that makes up existence and takes the form willed by magician. "The bricks and mortar of the Universe" as Jim Crow it calls.
 
  
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