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Astral Projection: Another return ^_^

solid~liquid onwards

22:42 / 29.08.02

pah!
i havent been here for a long time...probably 3 months (exams, then working 50 hours a week) but one week and 2 days from now, i will be a free man for a month! i intend to reaqaint myself wit astral projection...and thats why ive got this thread going..i used to practice astral projection to an extent but in the past 2 months ive had some interesting experiences.

2 totally spontaneous projections, with no effort on my part...i just kinda sliped out while lying in bed in the morning (you have a dirty mind) the first one i sorta bobbed around my room...observed the itemson my desk (messy) to see if they were the same when i *woke up* and then i clumsily floated over to my wardrobe, and went strait through it(it was dark inside)then i heard my someone coming up the stairs, and that kinda startled me into being plled back

and then woke up...i know!

number two was a similar situation, early morning and i felt sorta detached while in my bed, so i *pushed myself out* with great ease...but it was a bit differnt, i experinced blindnss fo a few seconds after *leaving* and heard sounds, what seemd like garbled radio...i thought mabye a car had its radio on really loud outside orsomething similar, but as i regained sight the breif noise vanished.

90% of the time when i attempt to OBE, i put in loads of effort and thought to get myself into the right state for projection, but it always seems kind of forced...like im fighting to get away from mybody, wheras these spontaneous ones seemed so easy and natrual.

any thoughts, comments or experiences of your own?

06:34 / 30.08.02

My attempts at this are very novice-like and basic, I'd like to go further, but I think it will take a lot of time: I've got as far as feeling one arm 'slip' out of its physical self. I don't know what's next - shuold I just go for it, or do it bit by bit? I have to say, it was easier just after having an orgasm, but I doubt that's much of a surprise to anyone here....

solid~liquid onwards

09:07 / 30.08.02

aggh.

my sucess rate is very low, and i doubt im at all qaulified to give advice. But. The more you practice in a short period of time, the easier it gets...i seem to have had best results in the morning, soon after waking up. M@d ass relaxation, not necesserily meditation, altough i supose it would probably help..my first OBE occured on a winters day, when i had the house to myself. i spent the entire day reading 3 of the preache books that had just arrived in the post and dozzing in front of a fire. if i hadnt had sucess on my first attempt, i would have probably of given up then and there. ive got a fan heater in my romm, and ive tried leaving that on while i relax, cos it makes you feel warm and sluggish.

as for techinique, ive tried a few, and what i use is a sort of mixture of various techiniques iv used and have *felt good*. theres loadsa sites with collections of techniques and advice, the woman at astralvoyage.com (anne?) seems to know what shes talking about...i think she runs a orum too but ive never been on it. spirit-online has a libary of submited techinniques. its got a forum that used to be quite active but last time i went on it, no-one had been on the astral projction forum for weeks.

good luck, for most of us astral prjection doesnt come too natrually and we really need to sort of become obsessed by it...oh yes, one thing ive noticed is that your ability seems to be ike a muscle, the moreyou practice, the stronger you become and he easier and quiker it is to preforman action, but if you stop practicing for a while your ability appears to revert back to is origional state.

solid~liquid onwards

20:50 / 01.09.02

things seem to be falling into place, today i met another person who has OBEed for the first time...in person not on the interweby

man i love synchronicities (SP?)

solid~liquid onwards

23:27 / 02.09.02

heh, heh heh...things did fall into place...this morning i had the weirdest fucking OBE...ive never done it with my eyes open before...seeing something that resembled a limb, twist out of my leg, then outa the other...god, that still does my head in, a good 13 hoours later.

i then somewhat floated away, but i felt the pull of my body, and i was like a small fish swimming up a really big river, untill the effort became too much and i got jerked back.

i see the magick forum is still extremely busy as it was when i left it (or mabye nobodies interested in my experiences *sob)

The Return Of Rothkoid

03:06 / 03.09.02

Exp would be a good one to ask about this. He's actually read a copy of Astral Dynamics - I've got it at home and keep meaning to, but seem to be bogged down at present. I am, however, interested in hearing how your plans to get hooked up with it again go - if only so I can nick the workin' bits of your routine and try to apply it myself...

Actually, I did feel a bit of a reaction doing the exercises Phil Hine recommends to "feel your arms moving when you're not actually moving them" - are these helpful or indeed similar to OBE feelings?

21:53 / 03.09.02

He's actually read a copy of Astral Dynamics - I've got it at home and keep meaning to

Read it, it's fab. the N.E.W meditation is excellent. That said, I haven't actually had an OOBE but then I didn't really stick with it, although I do still use a variation on the N.E.W.

Foust is SO authentic

01:30 / 04.09.02

So I'm curious. Any of you ever try for proof of your experiences? Like, say, having a friend place a book you've never seen on top of your bookshelf. When next you have an OBE, read the title of the book. Simple, no?

solid~liquid onwards

20:45 / 04.09.02

heh, "simple, no?" thats about right.

i wonder what parts of us we disacosiate ourselves with when projecting... im sure if you wanted to go to stalk out changing rooms, you wouldnt do it if you managed to project, (i dont think astal bodies have balls)...i know i wouldnt be-able to prove that i did OBE in test conditions...yet.

when i first started, i tried mrditation techiniqes to project, it took hours to prepare, and i would rarely get full seperation, let alone a full blown OBE. the way ive had all my most resnt and succesful is just cathing myself between asleep and awake(the state of mind the mediation techiniques help you acheive, so you can project)...its just much, much easier.

by that, i mean waking up, and having a lie in... again yestrday i almost had an OBE in the morning, i could feel it, but got disturbed by my mum coming in with ironed clothes... but nothing this morning, despite the last 3 days being...productive. lets see what tommorow holds.

i still cant get over how fucking weird it was when i did it with my eyes open, the feeling of my face, leaving my face, everthing twisting out to the right (always before ive just floated straight up)... i think i can appreciate how easy it is to lose your mind.