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the terror of anti-terror

 
 
sleazenation
07:24 / 19.12.01
And so it begins...

The first arrests under the UK's new anti-terrorism laws took place this morning in a series of dawn raids... is it me or is this a little scary?

[ 19-12-2001: Message edited by: sleazenation ]
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
21:32 / 19.12.01
There was have been some great articles on the Herald Tribune about this stuff recently. I'll type a few highlights in later if I have time, but in general, pick it up if you can. The anti-war/anti-mad takeover by the NSA/military editorials and commentaries are great.

I also read the Torygraph over breakfast and Charles Moore's editorial is...ghastly. Infantile in its politics and craven in its morality.
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
14:54 / 20.12.01
quote:Herald Tribune: Fear Drives the Making of a Secret Government

"...fear and a thirst for revenge...are not reason enough to betray America's traditions of liberty. They cannot be a rationale for treating the Constitution and Bill of Rights as if they are mere scraps of paper.

Nearly 1200 noncitizens have been detained by the Department of Justice, by presidential order - an order that violates the Fourth Amendment which states: 'The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue but upon probably cause.'

...John Ashcroft has refused to disclose the identity of more than 500 people still being detained. Many have been shuffled from one jail to another, across state lines, so that they cannot contact attorneys to represent them...

...Mr. Ashcroft told the Senate Judiciary Committee that its authority to oversee the Department of Justice was limited and that he would only answer those questions he wished to answer...

Congress has in effect given up its constitutional duty to keep the presidency in check...


See http://www.iht.com/frontpage.htm
 
 
Naked Flame
18:54 / 20.12.01
noncitizen.

Nice neologism. what next? sexcrime? doublethink? oh, wait, we've been using that one for years.

The meme-manipulation machinery grows ever more transparent, doesn't it?
 
 
rizla mission
15:34 / 21.12.01
more than A LITTLE worrying, i feel.

I mean, the government(s) OPENLY being bad guys and infringing civil liberties..

..what's happened to all the people who normally kick up a fuss?
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
20:47 / 21.12.01
Flame - the Trib article is extremely anti-gov, and addresses the issue of non-person vs. noncitizen etc.
 
  
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