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UK TV show, 27th Aug.

 
 
Bill Posters
13:01 / 27.08.02
On C4, called Teenage Kicks, it's all about why kids these days are getting seduced by the occult...
 
 
Bill Posters
13:05 / 27.08.02
Oh, and it's at 23.05, duh! Mustn't post and eat dinner at the same time...
 
 
Bear
13:27 / 27.08.02
Oh yeah I saw that this was on, should be quite "funny" - I think its going to be all Raven Wolf but it should still be quite interesting.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
13:36 / 27.08.02
Yuk Raven Wolf... dislike Fiona whatsherface more. I should video this, I'm sure I'll hate it though, witchcraft needs a major upheaval.
 
 
Little Mother
15:17 / 27.08.02
Swa a trailer for this one, it involved a thirteen year old in a lot of black and a tall pointy hat.
Mind you, those progs about teenagers always scare me, they always seem so much more worldly (fluffy willow wannabes aside) than I am now, let alone was at 13
 
 
Warewullf
21:42 / 27.08.02
Watching it. The girls get most of their ideas from movies. Rarely a good thing. The prog started with girls trying to put their blood into a glass of wine to drink. Bad start. I've never come across any need for blood in witchcraft. But they think it would work. (they chickened out and used their spit instead. Ew!)

My main complaint is the inclusion of Vampires in a prog about Witchcraft. I've said so on the Channel 4 message boards. http://www.channel4.com/forums/c4_forumframeset.cfm?forum=reach4

(Look for topics-"The witch Craze" and "Teen Kicks-Blaming Buffy")
 
 
Tryphena Absent
22:56 / 27.08.02
I watched this programme, where do I start? I don't even know anymore. I suppose that because I'm actually very anti-wicca I have a bad starting point for this kind of TV; they mention the 3 times 3 rule and the circle and all the other weird little things that I don't use or believe. Kids who'd bind themselves with blood without realising what it entails, whether you're talking power or health, playing at rituals and spells without knowing who they're calling to. I get this desparate urge to talk to them and in a way I guess it might be talking partly to myself at that age but... not. Where's there calling to witchcraft? I truly believe that you need to be called to it, to feel some kind of pressure towards it, otherwise it's never going to work. I hate the fact that TV and shops and people in general make a mockery of it when it can be so interesting. I hate the fact it never becomes interesting simply in passing because you only get a beginners aspect of it. I hate that Fiona Horne advises new witches to invoke Kali in her book... mostly I hate the popularisation of it all.

The most interesting 'pagan' TV I've seen - well two programmes actually - the Aleister Crowley show, part of a series, on channel4 and something on BBC1 a long time ago with a shaman featured dancing on a hill to Mari Boine.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
00:26 / 28.08.02
Fiona Horne is worthy of your hatred. For crimes against music, also. I am a little depressed that most of the magickal stores here seem to stock *stacks* of her stuff... it's giving magick the whole %yeah, life's just like on Charmed% smell, and it's a bit craptastic.
 
 
Sebastian
02:48 / 28.08.02
An aside question, anybody here actually ever got to drink a full cup of blood? I think it would give you an awfully nauseating smelling black colored diarrhea. I just want to know if I am right.
 
 
solid~liquid onwards
09:45 / 28.08.02
i would imagine it would be quite hard to gain a cup of blood... mabye a shot glass would be better for your health.
 
 
Stone Mirror
14:00 / 28.08.02
I'm at a loss to understand why anyone would want (or need) to drink a wine-glass (or a shot glass) of blood in the first place.
 
 
Naked Flame
14:31 / 28.08.02
For teenage kicks, obviously.

Blood. What's the phrase? the 'rose of mysterious union'? I know that comes from a Doors song but I'd bet my arse Morrison stole it from somewhere else.

It shouldn't surprise anyone that a TV special on teenage magic wouldn't be exactly revealing. What are the odds of finding bona fide teen magicians that would both agree to participate and know what they were doing?
 
 
Little Mother
15:43 / 28.08.02
It's like those reality tv historical recreations, there are people who would survive just fine in the iron age etc, but they are not the sort of people that go on reality tv. Plus all the witches I know that have had any media involvement say never do ritual on tv as it never comes across right.
 
  
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