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New Labour Policy: "Shut up, peaceniks, or get a punch..."

 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
21:56 / 05.12.01
quote:A Labour MP took the extraordinary step yesterday of complaining to Tony Blair and the Speaker of the Commons, Michael Martin, that he had been "physically and verbally attacked" on parliamentary premises - by other MPs from his own party.

Paul Marsden, the member for Shrewsbury and Atcham since 1997, wrote to the prime minister and Mr Martin after bruising exchanges over the government's controversial anti-terrorism bill on Tuesday night, first on the floor of the Commons, then in the popular Strangers' Bar shortly before three in the morning.

Labour whips dismissed talk of physical violence as absurd. But Liberal Democrats who saw at least some of the exchanges said they were fierce.

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a number of MPs went for a drink in the Strangers' Bar, which stays open during late debates.

With government whips still smarting at the setback, one Labour loyalist allegedly pushed Mr Marsden hard in the back. Another called him "an arsehole". There is a history of resentment towards his independent-minded attitudes.

The climax came, Mr Marsden said, when a government whip "put his right arm across my throat and leant into my face with his face".

"He told me, 'If you don't stop this the whips cannot be responsible for other MPs hurting you'." Earlier the whip had asked him to stop talking to Mr Opik and Matthew Green, two Lib Dem neighbours on the Welsh borders.


As above, so below. Full story here.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
10:13 / 06.12.01
Hmph. Did anyone else hear that the Labour whips were indirectly responsible for the House of Commons going into secret session the other night? Apparently the whips were scouting around the HoC trying to find speakers for the ongoing debate (this was at about 10 pm on Tuesday), and in their absence a Lib Dem MP moved that the house go into secret session - primarily a delaying tactic to hold up the govt's business (in this case this wretched anti-terrorism bill) and without the whips the Labour MPs in the chamber hadn't a clue what to do... the House hasn't been in secret session since WWII. According to Andrew Marr, anyway.

No doubt this was weighing on the minds of the whips at the time. But - what does this say about the intelligence and capacity for independent thought of yer average Labour MP? 'Resentment towards his independent-minded attitudes'??

GRRRRR!
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
11:35 / 06.12.01
I believe it's called 'Private Session' - and I had the impression that, it being a proceedural thing, once the move is on the table it has to be discussed - you can't just get around it - and if it goes through, it just takes a certain amount of time to clear the chamber of observers.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
11:39 / 06.12.01
No, this is different. Actually a secret session - they kick the public out of the galleries, Hansard leaves, they turn all the microphones and cameras off etc. Normally it would have been clocked quite easily, but with the whips out of the chamber the Labour apparatchiks didn't know how to vote on the motion.

At least, I think it is different - this was definitely the impression I got from the report I heard on the matter...

[ 06-12-2001: Message edited by: Kit-Cat Club ]
 
 
The Knowledge +1
11:44 / 06.12.01
I think we need more physical 'arguing' in government, especially if it involves fighting to keep out the anti-terrorism lawas the Americans just foolishly allowed in.

Interesting though. I've always maintained that if I ever got close enough to the prime-minister or the president, or any ex-presidents/prime-ministers for that matter, I would go out of my way to knock them out/headbutt them etc. I hate authority figures.
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
11:47 / 06.12.01
Prescott would lay you out before you even got close...
 
  
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