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Robot Man Reformed
20:32 / 03.12.01
Published on Sunday, December 2, 2001 in the Toronto Sun
Bush's Inexperience is Showing
Dire Threats Emanating from Washington Have Horrified America's Allies

by Eric Margolis

Crusades are messy, bloody affairs, and it's often hard to tell the good guys from the bad guys.
Exhibit A: Afghanistan, where the United States just suffered a humiliating defeat at the hands of the wily Russians. Happily for the White House, neither the media nor the American public understand what just happened. They continue to cheer on the president, who is mighty thankful he is leading a jolly little war against Muslims instead of having to explain to voters why the economy is nose-diving and hundreds of thousands are losing their jobs.


The Northern Alliance is not a merry band of pro-American freedom fighters battling the wicked Taliban, but a Russian front organization run by leaders of the revived Afghan Communist party. It has also reopened the heroin trade the Taliban had shut down.
The Alliance proclaimed itself Afghanistan's legitimate government last week. Moscow recognized the Alliance, and rushed "advisers" and troops into Afghanistan.

On Sept. 11, Alliance forces were a mere 10,000 men. A month later, it fielded 30,000 with an array of Russian armour and artillery. It's likely regular troops from neighbouring Tajikistan, Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan - all Russian satellite states - were sent into Afghanistan.

OIL AND GAS RESOURCES


Russia now dominates Afghanistan, thus reversing its historic defeat of the 1980s, shutting the U.S. and Pakistan out of Central Asia, and ensuring future Russian control of the Caspian Basin's oil and gas resources. Bush was too busy trying to "smoke out" outlaws Osama bin Laden and Mullah Omar to notice his new best friends, the Russians, had drygulched him and grabbed the lion's share of Afghanistan.

The much ballyhooed Afghan unity conference in Germany last week, hailed by the U.S. and UN as a "breakthrough" and the beginning of a viable "democratic" government in Afghanistan, was a farce.
The U.S., UN, and Europe are waiting to shower tens of millions in aid on a "new," non-Islamic Afghanistan. The Northern Alliance realize they need a few women and some toothless royalists to create the illusion of a multi-party government in order to cash in on western aid. Armed, supplied and guided by the Russian Army and KGB, the Alliance remains the real power in Afghanistan.


Last week, hundreds of Taliban prisoners of war were reportedly massacred in the Mazar-E-Sharif fort by soldiers of communist warlord Rashid Dostam, assisted by U.S. and British special forces, and air strikes by U.S. warplanes. Our side says the prisoners tried to break out and had to die. Some more neutral observers claim the prisoners were murdered en masse. Amnesty International is calling for an investigation. U.S. troops also watched while 140 Taliban prisoners were executed in southern Afghanistan.
The U.S has been using fuel-air munitions that rights organizations claim are inhumane weapons that should be banned.


Last week, bin Laden's holy war syndrome seemed to infect the White House. Bush proclaimed a new jihad against Saddam Hussein, warning Iraq was next on his hit list. Saddam was moved into the terrorist column by Bush for allegedly planning to produce weapons of mass destruction to threaten his neighbours. The president forgot to mention Israel and India, who have also threatened their neighbours with nukes.
While Bush was preaching a new crusade against Iraq, other high administration officials were warning that Iran, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Lebanon, Somalia and even Pakistan might be added to Bush's jihad list. A decade ago, this would have been called warmongering. Now, the frightful Sept. 11 attacks on the U.S. are being used to justify all sorts of adventures abroad, and the curtailment of civil rights and free speech at home.

Bush's anti-Muslim crusading policy is being advocated by a group of Dr. Strangeloves, hardline "neo-conservatives" - the Washington chapter of Ariel Sharon's far-right Likud party. They want to use America to destroy all of Israel's enemies and block peace between Israelis and Palestinians.

RESTRAINT

Sensible Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, and the administration's sharpest mind, Secretary of State Colin Powell, are trying to restrain the Sharonistas, who seem dangerously close to convincing Bush to launch a crusade against much of the 1.2-billion-person Islamic world. They failed with clever Bill Clinton, but are succeeding with the unworldly Bush.

America's European, Asian and Muslim allies are horrified by the dire threats emanating from Washington, but so far no one has dared to publicly break ranks and tell the president to holster his sixguns and simmer down. America is not refighting World War II.

In fact, it is not even at war, since none has been declared by Congress. It is fighting a handful of small but deadly international criminal organizations. This is not D-Day, nor the Alamo, and certainly no reason to launch America on the 21st century's first world war.

Copyright © 2001, Canoe Limited Partnership
 
 
Robot Man Reformed
09:49 / 04.12.01
Brought to you courtesy of Morgana's and Vincewo:

Argentina close to collapse after run on banks

By Jan McGirk, Latin America Correspondent
LONDON INDEPENDENT NEWS

03 December 2001


Argentina edged close to bankruptcy yesterday as people queued at cashpoint machines and bank tellers' windows to withdraw money after a government decree restricting bank withdrawals and overseas transfers.

Passengers on planes and ships were frisked for illegal dollar stashes before leaving the country. The decree sparked fears of an imminent devaluation of the peso, wiping out savings overnight.

The run on the banks was only the latest sign that the financial crisis that has rocked Latin America's third-largest economy for the past four years shows no signs of abating.

It was reported that savers withdrew at least $400mon Friday. Local banks have lost 17 per cent of their deposits worth $14.5bn this year.

Rumours that President Fernando de la Rua would be forced to resign and call early elections after a default on the country's $130bn debt fuelled the crisis. The President's austerity measures have made him deeply unpopular and have proved largely ineffective. Thousands of unemployed Argentine professionals are applying for overseas visas and fleeing into economic exile.

After analysts warned that the financial system might collapse within 10 days, the government capped cash withdrawals at $250 a week for the next three months.

Domingo Cavallo, the economy minister who pegged the peso to the dollar 10 years ago, said the regulations would "defend the interest of Argentines and stop the flight of capital until we can restore confidence". He urged Argentines to keep their cash in the banks and show faith in a massive debt swap even as interest rates soared.

"Deposits and the value of the peso and dollar in Argentina are untouchable and guaranteed. Those who disbelieve or mistrust will end up losing out," he said. In the 1980spersonal savings were converted into government bonds overnight at a poor rate of exchange. Recently, government employees took to the streets in protest after their salaries were paid in bonds.

To counter worries that savings in pesos will be devalued while locked inside bank vaults, officials have promised to permit depositors to convert their peso accounts into US dollars without charge.

Overseas and offshore transfers of more than $1,000 will be severely restricted in the coming months. The government will also forbid new bank loans in pesos, and insist financial institutions lend only in dollars. Business leaders read that as a signal that the government is about to ditch the peso for the US dollar as the national currency. The peso is already considered overvalued, which makes it difficult for Argentina to compete with neighbouring Brazil and Chile. But President De la Rua denied he would tamper with the currency's value or step down.

Union leaders called the banking measures "the hijacking of a nation's savings," and said strikes may be called for next week.
 
 
The resistable rise of Reidcourchie
09:49 / 04.12.01
I must admit I hadn't considered this particular Russian angle.

Anyone have more info on this?

Time for some more Cold War nightmares.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
09:49 / 04.12.01
THOHT, are you making a connexion between the situation in Afghanistan and the financial situation in Argentina> If so, what is it?

This Russian business - probably less worrying than it might appear at first. It sounds to me like geopolitical manoeuvering rather than the formation of an active power bloc - Russia trying to create a buffer zone. I don't think it signals a return to the Cold War - Russia has much better relations with European and American leaders these days.
 
 
The resistable rise of Reidcourchie
09:49 / 04.12.01
I get nervous everytime American and Russian troops are close to each other, I almost shit myself with that airport thing in Kosovo.

Child of the cold war you see.

[ 04-12-2001: Message edited by: The Redcap's futility. ]
 
 
Perfect Tommy
11:15 / 04.12.01
I'd feel a lot better if Yakov Smirnoff were here to guide us through these troubled times.

"What a country!"
 
 
Robot Man Reformed
16:25 / 04.12.01
Dead, fucked babies in South Africa, anyone got a link?
 
 
The resistable rise of Reidcourchie
16:59 / 04.12.01
Apologies for the initial thoughtlessness of my post.

[ 04-12-2001: Message edited by: The Redcap's futility. ]
 
 
MJ-12
17:17 / 04.12.01
http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/africa/12/02/safrica.rapes/index.html
 
 
Robot Man Reformed
17:21 / 04.12.01
Bless you, Darling.

 
 
MJ-12
17:22 / 04.12.01
Don't get me wrong, I still think you're nuts.
 
 
Robot Man Reformed
17:24 / 04.12.01
Yes, I know and wouædn't have it any other way.

For now.
 
 
000
19:53 / 04.12.01
Since a few months, there have been in Holland, news ,very short brief clippings, said once not to be repeated again, babies are being raped, bodies of little children cut up in pieces are being found, and its happening in many more countries as well.

Before the Taliban came to power in Afghanistan , the women and little children were brutally raped almost daily, they were fed heroine and then they were abused, the first thing Osamin did was to stop that, he became very strict and punished those who did so, he made new laws in the first place to protect the women and children, that is why he banned any possibility that could make a man think of sex, and he made sure the women were to be covered so the men could not be tempted. He also closed the heroine roads so that America and allies could not use these roads anymore and so that the number of addicts would not grow anymore.

The ones they put to power now are the same ones who did these crimes, so what does that tell you people? Now the women and children will become victims again, no protection anymore at hand.

Why did he do such a thing you might ask. Well he was taken away from his mother by his father and he never forgot her and the love he felt for her, he did not like his father at all, he did not get the love from his father, as he did from his mother, which he needed so very much, you see he is a very sensitive soul, and old soul as well, he has lived many lives. His harem harbors women who needed protection.

Now here is another part of what the Americans together with the UK has done, remember Iraq?

I have to WARN you, if pictures stay in your head, if you are of the visual kind, and sensitive at heart, and if you cry while looking at movies, this will freak you out.
But if you ask for visual proof of what sort of bad things they are doing, you must look.
http://www.web-light.nl/VISIE/extremedeformities.html

Think before you click, I am not responsible for your reaction.
 
 
The resistable rise of Reidcourchie
19:58 / 04.12.01
Laila where are you getting your inside info on the sensitivity of yet another mass murderer?
 
 
000
20:01 / 04.12.01
"South Africa's infants are under siege. Now is the time for President Thabo Mbeki to break his silence on the abomination destroying not only the country but eating away at our nation's soul," the Sowetan newspaper said in a front page editorial on Monday.”

He will not for he belongs to the new world order gang, that is the only reason he became president, he is working for the world bank. Nelson Mandela has also been seen with them something is fishy about Mandels.

“The sexual abuse of toddlers was thrown into the spotlight by the alleged gang rape of a nine-month-old baby girl by six men”

Now doesn’t want to make you burn these men, you know like they used to with witches, nothing must remain a live from souls like that, they must not be allowed to reproduce ever again. To ashes will they go
 
 
Robot Man Reformed
20:07 / 04.12.01
I agree Laila, it can be gruesome to look at the photos in http://www.web-light.nl/VISIE/extremedeformities.html but people need to fucking see and learn.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
14:39 / 05.12.01
They're back and they're thread rotting...
 
 
000
16:16 / 05.12.01
Lozt cause, shut up and visit another tread if you can not take reality.

This is real and the lies seem to be winning because of the people state of sedation.

The more children will be found the nastier they get.
 
 
000
16:23 / 05.12.01
Does anybody know about the fact, that Switserland has the biggest most powerful army in EUROPE

Lozt cause, this has also everything to do with the topic, for it has everything to do with the 911 aftermath and total control.

(ooops I meant europe)

[ 06-12-2001: Message edited by: Laila ]
 
 
000
16:28 / 05.12.01
Redcap;
"Laila where are you getting your inside info on the sensitivity of yet another mass murderer?"

Well maybe my age combined with the fact that I remember the 70th and the 80th?
It was in the news, and at that time we hade a bit more uncensored news, and I remember the political situations in so many countries and the news.
 
 
Ganesh
17:12 / 05.12.01
Flawless retro-engineering, Laila: as the news rolls in, fit it into the global theory somehow, anyhow. 'Fact' is malleable: squash it to plug the uncertainties, hmm? Who cares about objective accuracy? A good conspiracy will flow readily into any information gap. Evidence and reason be damned.

Beware of 100% certainty, people. Doubt's the thing that stops us all from flying 'planes into skyscrapers...
 
 
Robot Man Reformed
17:26 / 05.12.01
"Who cares about objective accuracy?"

And what is it, Ganesh? You are the psychiatrist, explain objective accuracy to us and base it on countless evidence to back it up.

Humour me.

Then apply it to sexual abuse of children and babies.

Please.
 
 
Not Here Still
17:40 / 05.12.01
Originally posted by Laila:

"South Africa's infants are under siege. Now is the time for President Thabo Mbeki to break his silence on the abomination destroying not only the country but eating away at our nation's soul," the Sowetan newspaper said in a front page editorial on Monday.”

He will not for he belongs to the new world order gang, that is the only reason he became president, he is working for the world bank.


Righty-ho. Well he'd better tell his health minister pretty quickly then.

South African Health Minister Manto Tshabalala-Msimang claims AIDS is an Illuminati plot

The ideas Tshabalala-Msimang refers to are from William Cooper's Behold A Pale Horse (thread in books forum here) which y'all love so much.

[edited for clarity. Try it some time]

[ 05-12-2001: Message edited by: Not Me Again ]
 
 
MJ-12
20:56 / 05.12.01
Interesting. I hadn't previously been aware that SA was largly populated by white men in control of the world power structure. Amazing stuff, really.
 
 
Naked Flame
22:20 / 05.12.01
Hoho. You think the Russians have taken Afhganistan? Hohohoho. You think people don't remember the 80s there? Hahaha. Afghanistan is equally suspicious of the US and the Russians, and I for one hope that they play both sides for every penny of aid they can get. They deserve it.

I promised myself I would stop arguing with the 'greenlanders' but...

quote: the first thing Osamin did was to stop that, he became very strict and punished those who did so, he made new laws in the first place to protect the women and children

Ah... when exactly was this guy supposed to be making laws and running the country again? Last I heard the Taleban law came down from the mullahs... not the guerillas. I don't doubt that bin Laden was pretty influential. Feminist warrior he was not.

As for 'protecting women and children' ferchrissakes think before ya type laila... check out RAWA if you haven't already... exactly how do laws forbidding women from working, learning, recieving healthcare etc. protect them? Sure the veil offered protection... but only from the penalties of not wearing the veil (i.e. death by stoning if I recall aright.) My turn to yell WAKE UP! at you guys, I'm afraid.
 
  
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