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JENNIE ONE: More of this, less of that shit you like

 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
17:42 / 10.08.02


Brian Wood & Becky Cloonan. January 2003.

"This original graphic novel is about the protagonist of Channel Zero before she became Jennie 2.5, before the Clean Act turned America into a right wing Christian police state, and Jennie was an art student just starting out. I never really dealt with her as a character, as an individual, and I certainly never explained how she got to the point she was at in the beginning of Channel Zero. I felt it needed to be told.

"It's the summer of the Clean Act. The city is in chaos. There are daily protests and riots. The police are corrupt and ineffectual, and City Hall is a whorehouse. It’s reached the breaking point, literally, and Jennie sees an opportunity in all the madness.

“Jennie One is written by myself and drawn by NYC indie artist Becky Cloonan. Her work includes the self-published comics Social Unrest and Something Perfect, as well as a slew of ‘zines and other punk rock artifacts.”


LOVE THEIR WORK.

Nobody mention POUNDED, okay?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
17:58 / 10.08.02
Well, what's it about?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
17:59 / 10.08.02
I just added that by moderating my post. Should appeat as if by magic in a work.

But really, who cares? Just LOVE HER WORK.
 
 
Axel Lambert
10:59 / 11.08.02
It locks great. Do you have any more info about becky?
 
 
Grey Area
11:20 / 11.08.02
Becky Cloonan's Site

Not much background info but it has a big gallery section.
 
 
rizla mission
14:30 / 12.08.02
I would go all "once bitten, twice shy" on this, but..

..it looks sooo cooolll...
 
 
The Natural Way
08:11 / 13.08.02
The high concept (all that police state vs underground resistance business) doesn't sound much more exciting, original or interesting than that crap I like (possibly less so). And after hearing how crap this guy's last thing was...well....I'm not sure. The art's very, very nice though. Might check it out.
 
 
Jack Fear
13:23 / 16.08.02
I'll pass, thanks. And not just because POUNDED flundered so badly at the end, but because I've pretty much gone off Brian Wood as a whole.

That POUNDED ended up celebrating and affirming all the macho a-man's-gotta-do-what-a-man's-gotta-do-bullshit that it seemed primed to satirize—and that Wood bristled so hard at any critical suggestion that the story was less than 100% successful because of that—leads me to believe that the man's "progressive" credentials consist entirely of a knee-jerk distrust of the cops.

Confession: I started this thread after an afternoon lurking on Wood's Delphi forum. Lauded as a genius for what appears to me to be a perfectly pedestrian design sense, locked in a perpetual circle-jerk with Larry Young (whose constant shilling has grown both tiresome and obnoxious), seemingly unable to promote his own work without trashing the work of others—Brian Wood seems everything that Warren Ellis has ever been accused of being, but without Ellis' leavening of irony.

This is a man who thinks it's clever to silence debate by posting a picture of a man slapping the shit out of a woman (Steve McQueen smacking Ali McGraw in The Getaway, if you care)—because, see, it's funny! Cos only bitches whine about stuff, right? Punk-ass bitches. Yeah.

But he's keeping it real, he's down with the kids, right? Like the real, authentic punk rock that spoke to the kidscame up rough in the bad parts of town, he's making art that means something. Never mind that he grew up in bucolic Vermont and vacations at Lake George: the standards of "authenticity" are his, not mine.

That's the personality. Okay. But what about the work?

Haven't read the allegedly-brilliant CHANNEL ZERO, and based on this...

... the Clean Act turned America into a right wing Christian police state...

I liked that story better when it was called THE HANDMAID'S TALE.

[In CHANNEL ZERO] I never really dealt with [the protagonist] as a character, as an individual...

This seems like a huge flaw in a work of "genius." A story without a character isn't a story, it's a manifesto.

This original graphic novel is about the protagonist of Channel Zero before she became Jennie 2.5... [when] Jennie was an art student just starting out

An art student? Like, say, a young Brian Wood? Gosh! WHat a triumph of imagination! Semi-autobiographical wish-fulfillment ahoy!

Frankly, I just don't think he's all that bright, and his politics are a self-serving sham. Freedom = my freedom to not be hassled by The Man. How nice for me.

The emperor has no clothes, and a teensy pecker to boot.

The Flyboy should be along momentarily to kick my head in.
 
 
Jack Fear
13:28 / 16.08.02
Wood, this week, on the Strokes:

lead singer, son of celebrity parents, attended a Swiss boarding school. "saviors of rock" my ass. just typical rich kids doing the indie thing because its the trendy thing to do these days. fuck them. do you really want your rock and roll sung by a fucking Swiss boarding school child of privilege?

oh, and half of the indie comics scene is the same way. Ivy-league grads slumming in Williamsburg with the right clothes and the right hair, using daddy's cash to publish their little publishing enterprises. makes me ill.

-b, in a mood today
 
 
The Natural Way
13:32 / 16.08.02
Yeah, that's just it. I think I preferred the Handmaids Tale, too.

Wood's thing seems a bit "They pushed Offred a bit too far....a babymother on the edge..."
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
15:02 / 16.08.02
The Flyboy should be along momentarily to kick my head in.

Why fucking bother? You've already admitted that you're prepared to entirely dismiss a graphic novel you haven't read on the basis of a couple of tidbits of information, one of which (interestingly given your assetion that Wood cannot take criticism) is the author himself addressing the limitations of the work and his subsequent need to do this 'prequel'. You hardly need me to undermine the credibility of your argument any further. Have you read Couscous Express? If not, then you're only familiar with less than a third of his published work to date, and a piece which, although I was hugely disappointed by, Wood seems to regard as relatively throwaway.

Your argument against his work thus breaks down to "I don't like aspects of the persona he presents online". If this were a good reason to avoid someone's work, I'd never read anything by Warren Ellis, Grant Morrison, Brian Michael Bendis or Mark Millar again (and while unlike some people I'd still have something to read, I do think that would be a loss).

I don't like the macho posturing of which Brian Wood, Larry Young et al are sometimes guilty - although to claim that Ellis has ever been any less guilty of this because of his sense of 'irony' leaves me agog with disbelief - you're talking about a man who once said "If you are a writer, women will show you their breasts", and has an entirely dubious relationship with his (younger) female audience in general (still, like I said above, that doesn't stop me thinking he's right about other things or buying his work). However in your dismissal of Wood's politics as self-serving, you seem to have missed his outspoken views on the Middle East, or US foreign policy, and the fact that he has a section on his forum specifically devoted to reports from alternative news sources and discussion of the arising issues. I seem to recall that Ellis has a tendency to close any thread that strays too far into close analytical discussion of geopolitical issues.

Confession #1: the Brian Wood Forum is the other online message board I visit (as yet just to lurk). Confession #2: I also value the fact that he has better music taste than Ellis too. Confession #3: runce - I never get tired of "police state v. underground resistance" stories - hell, it's not like the market's swamped.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
11:34 / 26.08.02
Come on Fear, you great bag of shrimp.

On a related note:



More of THIS. Less of... y'know.
 
 
Jack Fear
12:10 / 26.08.02
I've said my piece, Fly.

You like what you like, and there ain't nothin' I can do about it.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
14:59 / 12.10.02


"They did it again? Haterz no like..."
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
16:53 / 12.10.02
Wood just isn't where its at.

man.

Americans can't do this kind of stuff without looking naive and preachy. (genralisation, ah ken but I'm right aren't I?: Yanks don't do state v. the indivdual so well, me thinks)

I picked up Channel Zero when it first came out, It was an image comic if I remember and I was surprised and impressed on first glance. Then I tried to read the fucker.

I come from a design backround; hey I love my DR, so it wasn't the website/poster art aesthetic that got in the way. It was the piss poor dialogue and plotting.

There's something about that Couriers cover that grates too. For a start it's a trainspotting (the film) rip off - the pose and expression are identical to Diane's stance on the promotional posters. And even then, back in 1996, that aesthetic which Trainspotting chose was tired and overused: crissake, it'd been kickin round since Reservoir Dogs rebooted it for the nineties. Okay - maybe it's not Wood's art but surely he's directed the graphics used?

Post Filth it also screams: looky here, clever comic reader types!

Now, someone tell me he's Canadian and shut me up.

And another thing: Intelligent girl rebels with tatoos and attitude are as big a comic book cliche as Witchblade and her bitches and post Watchmen vigilantes. So fuckin passe.

Tank Girl is not a good influence to have.
 
 
CameronStewart
18:06 / 12.10.02
That Couriers cover bugs the shit out of me, because it doesn't appear to be "homage" at all - just straight plagiarism.

I like that Cloonan girl's art, though.
 
  
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