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Blatant plea for hugs

 
  

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Goodness Gracious Meme
18:54 / 09.08.02
says it all really.

Have a feeling I've been doing this alot recently, but I feel like six shades of shite at the moment. Am desperately hoping it's early PMT that's making me feel like a gigantic bag of crap, and making pretty much everything feel utterly pointless and worthless. If it isn't, I'm scared. And am aware that it probably isn't, and that this will pass, all moments being ephemeral, part of the process etc etc, but at the moment, it's bloody frightening. Have been trying to look after myself, doing things reasonably 'right', and yet still feel rotten. grr. Can see myself enacting all sorts of behaviours that are bad for me, and can't be bothered to do anything about them.

So give me hugs and appreciation, pleeeeease... or I'll have to delete my post in the 'things that make you go mmm' thread about how nice and supportive you all are...
 
 
bitchiekittie
18:57 / 09.08.02
*hug hug hug hug hug hug hug hug hug hug hug hug hug hug hug hug hug*

having never met you, I still feel confident saying that you are fantastic, on many levels. *MWAH*

hope things get better soon, sweets.
 
 
bitchiekittie
19:02 / 09.08.02
these were my two favorites of the kittens that I was caring for:


lookit them - they loooooove you
 
 
uncle retrospective
19:04 / 09.08.02

That's shit Plums, I hope this is just a crappy moody swing. Get some friends round, get a bottle of wine and have a nice relaxed evening.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
19:06 / 09.08.02
You got all the hugs I can squeeze out, and then some.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
19:15 / 09.08.02
Ta people,I really appreciate your hugs and words. You are all lovely. Am in too much of a feeble state to call friends, but think i'll chill out at home with a glass of wine, some airbrained telly and a very old teddy bear.

Just popped back to mention that I Googled 'self=help''depression' and the first four sites had no info or resources but plenty of books and tapes for sale. Grr. And I can't remember the code for angry emoticon. Grr.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
19:20 / 09.08.02
Just blew in from the Windy City and about to catch up on the backlog of hugs with scrawny speccy boy when he gets in from food shopping but for the next five minutes I'll be doing virtual hugs right atcha, Plums. It will all look better sooner than you think. And, if not, don't disillusion me, it's only that thought that keeps me going some days...

{{{{{{squeezing....RIGHT NOW!}}}}}}
 
 
Ariadne
19:20 / 09.08.02
Well, I have met you, and you're great. One of the coolest people I know. I appreciate you for:

Being so friendly to me when I first met you
Being even lovelier each time since. You have a huge and brilliant smile.
All the work you do for the rape centre and whatever you're doing now
Your intelligent posts that tend to leave me in silent awe
And your gorgeous hair

So look after yourself, and sooner or later things will perk up, I'm sure.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
19:31 / 09.08.02
Thank you. it occurs to me that I could use this thread for more than hugs, it's really interesting as a reality check/contrast to the headstate I'm in right now to read nice things said about me, and note the almost instant irrational inner voice saying 'naah, they don't mean it'. which is not more trolling for hugs (seeing as I'm doing pretty well!) but is a really clear demonstration of how overpowering this kind of headstate is, and how far it can take me from any kind of consensus reality...

have other people had this kind of experience?
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
19:31 / 09.08.02
oh , and *ouch*. *gasps* you can stop squeezing now, hon...
 
 
Grey Area
19:36 / 09.08.02
I experience that pretty much every time I get something good or nice said about me...there's an annoying gremlin in my mind that keeps on whispering "they don't mean it!". It's taken about ten years to get to the stage where I can ignore this little voice, and do the mental equivalent to beating it senseless with a stainless steel two-by-four with a nail through it (also made of steel).

Two (2) imperial tonnes of hug-type vibes are being sent your way.

Addendum: The remedy that works for me is to put on some really happy, loud music and dance like no-one's watching.
 
 
Ariadne
19:38 / 09.08.02
I do have real 'plunges' every now and then, not obviously hormone related, where I just can't get a grasp of anything good. It's not that I hate myself, particularly, but just that it all seems utterly pointless. Like Kit Kat Club's "buttoning and unbuttoning". Is that what you feel? It can just be like a big porridgey undertow to everything I do.
There's not an awful lot I can suggest, other than believing it will pass - and, I suppose, recognising if it's not passing and finding someone to talk to.
And *hippy cringe* Bach flower remedies oughtn't to work, but do for me. The Mustard remedy helps dig me out of a hole.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
19:59 / 09.08.02
gah. just lost a long reply. but was going to say, am feeling a lot better having made contact with people, and think i was saying taht for me at least, Barbelith can be a kind of halfway house for this, in that if i'm in too bad a head to ring friends or deal with 'real' people, typing into a keyboard is a lot less scary and still provides response and interaction. REally like this. Small steps, and all that.

Can still feel it hovering, but while i've been enjoying and appreciating the contact and responses, I've been checking out some depression resources and groups, to continue this process. As a lot of what's made me feel a lot better is the feeling taht other people can come throuhg this stuff to the point of being able to give hugs, as well as having spoken about things having been a beginning of taking control. when I feel that bad, it's the total feeling of powerlessness which makes things feel pointless, i think

getting kicked out of netcaff. but thanks all.
 
 
sleazenation
21:08 / 09.08.02
i came to late to offer hugs that are of any help but there here from you anyways - and yeah - people are thinking of you even when you not there.
 
 
that
21:12 / 09.08.02
Huggles, plums. Been having a similar downturn meself lately. I suggest borrowing someone's dog for the day (or more), walking it, playing with it, letting it give you lots of doggy love. Hang in there, you know, 'cause it'd be crap if you didn't. Really really crap and awful. More huggles, and doggy huggle vibes from my Border terrier. Take care, huh?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
21:31 / 09.08.02
There is a planet of hugs for the Pumsbitch. I add my own hillock, which though late and inadequate offers fine views over the harbour of Plumsbitchia.

Schnoogles.

On the other side, I imagine that my position is pretty clear given the "look, should I just fuck off now?" threads every six months or so. I am incapable of believing that anyone whose opinion I actually value might actually like me, rather than a more credible option like concussion or the brain machines of Doctor Klorg. But I'm working on it. I hope everyone is. Because there is a reason that you think they are so fabulous that you can't imagine why they want to be near you, and that reason is generally because they see something fabulous in you as well.

Ahem. Drunk. Why do you ask?
 
 
Ganesh
21:52 / 09.08.02
You are a lovely, huggable, valuable human being. And so is Plums.

Stop self-undermining and adapt.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
22:25 / 09.08.02
I am with Dr Ganesh on this one, rather than the Dr Klorg option...

And as for you, Plums, well - as far as I know you have never been anything other than fantastic, and that goes for first-hand and second-hand opinion. So nah. And hugs too, and lots of them.
 
 
Shortfatdyke
06:15 / 10.08.02
Now that I'm back firing on all cylinders, I can give you big, butch hugs that'll hurt your ribs. In a way, Plums, you're right - life has been made to be pretty pointless (work really hard all your life and you can own a house!). But that doesn't make it meaningless - if you can see through the bullshit life can be a blank canvas to do whatever we want.

PMT, though, can make you go pretty mad for a while - I go from wanting to machine gun anyone who gets in my way, to weeping when someone smiles or cries. Don't underestimated its effect! There are ways of dealing with it (try aromatherapy - a mixture of lavender, bergamot and geranium has had a magical effect on me) so don't lose hope.

From what I've read on Barbelith, you seem to do some great work. And I'm meeting you soon and really really looking forward to it.
 
 
Cavatina
07:53 / 10.08.02
I'm very late catching up with this, and I hope you're feeling your energy and cheer returning by now, Plums. Virtual hugs & lots of bubbles of good wishes coming your way from Down Under.
 
 
Cat Chant
10:08 / 10.08.02
ditto! hugs! you are a fantastic, stylish, interesting, engaged human who generates a high proportion of the total "good thing for the planet"ness within a ten-mile radius of yourself at all times. The aliens whose job it is to calculate these things will be arriving with extraterrestrial hugs soon.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
13:49 / 10.08.02
You got me into Patti Smith and the Boredoms, and listened to me talk bollocks on the beach. You deserve an OBE for that, even if the BE doesn't actually exist any more.

But this whole 'they don't really care about me, they think I'm an arse', I can relate on that, as I normally get it about 15 minutes before arriving at a Barbemeet, if I arrive and no-one's turned up yet or really scarily, while I'm at a Barbemeet. (Barbemeet can be replaced with any similar gathering of friends) My declaration earlier this year about the effort of 'pretending to be me' certainly comes out of a semi-desperate 'love me, love my T-Shirt' need.

And it seems like quite a few people feel the same. Is this a) a fairly common state of humanity, b) a fairly common state of modern Western twenty/thirtysomethings, c) a fairly common state for the sorts of people that end up posting heavily on message boards?
 
 
Ganesh
13:57 / 10.08.02
d) All of the above.
 
 
Ellis says:
14:06 / 10.08.02
Hope you feel better Plums, you're fabulous.

Hugs.
 
 
Lurid Archive
14:39 / 10.08.02
Its a bit sad to hear people talking like this. Why do so many of us feel that 'they don't really care about me, they think I'm an arse'? Its such a waste of energy and all too often it comes from people who really deserve to feel better about themselves. But I know full well that reason doesn't always help very much. So,

hugs to plums and everyone else.

*huggles*
 
 
Mazarine
15:33 / 10.08.02
-bag of hugs-
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
17:51 / 10.08.02
LOVE YOUR WORK.

Hugs.
 
 
Persephone
22:49 / 10.08.02
*cheerfully*

It's like a pomo version of Pascal's wager... which would be worse and more humiliating to be wrong about, thinking that everything's jim dandy and everybody loves me? Or that everybody's plastic and we're all going to die?

That gets me through the day, sometimes.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
23:17 / 10.08.02
A big shedload of hugs, Plums.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
23:20 / 10.08.02
Hugs and a pint, plums.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
00:37 / 11.08.02
Hugs to you. With some more vegetarian dim sum dishes that don't suck.
 
 
Ganesh
00:39 / 11.08.02
Hugs to Rothkoid. Because he's on the other side of the world. And just because.
 
 
Cherry Bomb
02:04 / 11.08.02
Cool things about the plumsbitch:

She has kick ass hair.

She'll hold my hand at pride parade.

She always has something interesting to add to the conversation.

She's gorgeous and sexy.

She's supersmart.

I could go on and on, but really, how could anybody not like you? You're the fucking BOMB! Big superduper hugs.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
08:33 / 11.08.02
Persephone
*cheerfully*
It's like a pomo version of Pascal's wager... which would be worse and more humiliating to be wrong about, thinking that everything's jim dandy and everybody loves me? Or that everybody's plastic and we're all going to die?


OK then, just explain to me how to think this and I'm there.

Plus you'll probably find all the psychiatrists in the world putting a contract out on your life...
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
08:50 / 11.08.02
Hugs to the PB. Knowing you're coming to my birthday party makes it all worthwhile. Don't really care about the rest of yez (insert ironic smiley here).
 
  

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