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Patti Smith- What's worth buying?

 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
16:39 / 25.07.02
Ok, so preparing for seeing her in concert, and wondering which of her albums are any cop. I've gone through 'Horses' which was absolutely brilliant, and 'Gone Again' which I wasn't that taken with to be honest. Based on that, where do I go from here?
 
 
Jack Fear
17:03 / 25.07.02
The first four albums, of which Horses (1975) is the debut:

Radio Ethiopia (1976): the "difficult second album." Not as essential as...

Easter (1978), which is just aces, and features that Springsteen collaboration.

Wave (1979) is, if anything, even better, with both "Dancing Barefoot" and a blazing cover of "(So You Wanna Be A) Rock 'n' Roll Star."

Then the wilderness years, interrupted by Dream of Life (1988), which is by all accounts dire and to be avoided, until the full-on return beginning with the aforementioned Gone Again (her first record following the death of husband Fred "Sonic" Smith), then Peace and Noise, which marked the start of her professional and pesonal collaboration with guitarist Oliver Ray—who brought a deep-blues feel to the proceedings.

Her last, Gung Ho, was a return to the spacy/incantational style of her early work, married to the bluesier sound. Title track is mesmerizing.

Land is a new two-disc anthology of her work—includes some live tracks and the classic single "Piss Factory," which is not on any of the albums. A good place to start, I reckon, as you can pick and choose what period Patti most rings your chimes.
 
 
rizla mission
17:10 / 25.07.02
I am all about Patti Smith at the moment.

Are you seeing her play in London? I soo wish I could go..

Easter is generally regarded as her best album after 'Horses'. It's the most out-and-out unashamedly cock-rocking power ballady album, but contains lot's of poetry and symbolism too, making for a nice mixture. Features the (pretty awful, ihmo) hit single 'Because the Night' and top tunes like 'Till Victory', 'Rock n Roll Nigger', 'Ghostdance' and '25th floor'.
To quote her 'Lyrics, Notes, Reflections' book:
"As we developed the material for Easter, these things were on my mind: the miracle of physical movement, the transmutation of energy through performance, and the idea of resurrection."

Radio Ethiopia has a lot of totally headfucking poetry/jazz improv. stuff along similar lines to 'Birdland', and also some wild guitar playing and intense noise. There's a lot of stuff on it about transcendence through music, overcoming the need for words etc. One of those albums that, if you listen to it enough, will become a masterpiece, but you will completely not get it at first. Takes effort.

Wave I bought recently and haven't had a chance to listen to much. It seems a bit more laid back that the previous albums - not quite so concerned with visceral power and rock n' roll freakout. Lot's of wonderful songs though - 'Walking Barefoot' foremost amongst them. A lot of the songs seem concerned with nationality and the idea of being American.. um, in a good way..
 
 
Shortfatdyke
18:51 / 25.07.02
i would go for 'wave' and 'land', although i must say i loved a lot of 'dream of life'. 'pissing in a river' was for me the best moment from radio ethiopia, but i found 'easter' to be a bit commercial in comparison to her other stuff. she's still the goddess, though.

i saw her live a few years back, and, much as i don't do the hero thing, was fucking happy just to be in the same room as her.
 
 
rizla mission
20:05 / 25.07.02
Just thought I'd pop back to mention that 'Ain't it Strange' and 'Ask the Angels' from Radio Ethiopia are probably my favourite Patti Smith songs. I just listened to it again, It's a great album. Just a hard one.

And, fuck it, I AM going to her London show, I AM. I'm going to buy a ticket NOW, price be damned..
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
11:51 / 18.01.03
Was going to post the following in the '2003' thread, but I wanted to resurrect this one instead, so we can all gush a bit:

Patti Smith's Horses - was enthusing about this with bengalin in platforms t'other night, and I was specifically expounding on "why stuffy rock magazines like Q and Mojo are fucking shit" yet again. Basically, the answer is because they manage to describe 'classic' albums like this one in ways that always make them sound really very boring (as well as ascribing 'classic' status to albums which you then buy and discover have one good track on, and it's the one everybody already knows) - whereas if they'd just say "Horses - it's almost entirely about sex! And a lot of it sounds like sex!", y'know? Yeah, there's an obvious reason why they don't say that, but you know...

'Gloria' is famously ace - god, it really does have the most amazing build up from slow, laid-back, cool-as-fuck sexiness to ecstatic orgasmic "G-L-O-R-I-A!"-ness - wow. 'Free Money' is my new favourite song, for reasons it's hard to explain, but similar to the ones I just mentioned. 'Break It Up' seems to be the perfect encapsulation of the heartache of simply just *fancying* someone - Smith is that rare thing, a genuinely talented lyricist - all that stuff about rolling around on the floor with boys with wings - plus tune-wise it reminds me a little of Bowie's 'Five Years', which can only be good. Another thing that's interesting about this album is the way some of the most upbeat tunes have the gloomiest lyrics - 'Redondo Beach', 'Kimberly'...

What I really like about this album, though, is the way it sounds like the missing link between the Stones at their peak (that's circa Sticky Fingers and Let It Bleed, like you needed telling) and the great girl/guitar bands of the 90s and today.

"People say beware, but I don't care..."
 
 
rizla mission
14:56 / 18.01.03
'Birdland' and 'Kimberly' aren't about sex.

But, yeah, point taken.

Recorded music doesn't get much better.

Actually, I think I'd single out the 'My Generation' bonus track as my favourite bit, but then I suppose I would..
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
12:32 / 19.01.03
Yeah, that was my first favourite, in the way you often get tracks on albums which you like best at first and then end up preferring others. That's kinda like the song that invents Bikini Kill, isn't it? In the same way that Jimi Hendrix probably invented Prince with 'Crosstown Traffic', but I digress. (Do I mean 'conjures'? Yeah!)

"We created it - let's take it over!"

Put that on a t-shirt, Riz.
 
 
Michael Kemp
18:19 / 08.08.05
anyone else thinking of going to the Brighton Dome gig on the 16th?
 
 
Mike Modular
22:18 / 08.08.05
No, but I shall be seeing her on the 14th, in Leicester, at the Summer Sundae festival. Will Rizla be attending?

Saw her read The Coral Sea at Meltdown, which was fine and all, but when she did actually sing I realised just how much I needed to see her with a band (ie her voice was incredible). I reckon she'll be dead good, like.
 
 
Michael Kemp
07:18 / 09.08.05
excellent MM - let us know how it goes down. You just going on the 14th, or the whole shebang?

i got two tickets to see her in Brighton next week (last time i saw her was in, er, 1978, i think, at The Rainbow) but it seems my partner in crime, under house arrest in Beckenham, is unable to attend...
 
 
doctorbeck
09:07 / 09.08.05
my favourites by far are the first single which has 'hey joe' on the a-side and 'piss factory' on the flip (which i don't think has been issued anywhere else), totally totally amazing records, all her youth and raging glory in them, sexy, sharp, crazy beatnick rock and roll music

doen't get much better than that for me really
 
 
Michael Kemp
07:56 / 17.08.05
and what did she kick off with last night in Brighton? Yup, "Piss Factory"...
 
 
mondo a-go-go
11:55 / 17.08.05
If anyone's interested, there's a bunch of reviews of a couple of her Meltdown 20005 gigs (including my own) here.
 
 
Michael Kemp
12:38 / 17.08.05
excellent reviews Anna - thanks for that - brought it all back again - loved the report of the hecklers heckling each other from the balcony ("I'm single" "I'm not surprised" etc) - ha

i feel, er, energised after last night...
 
 
doctorbeck
14:18 / 17.08.05
>and what did she kick off with last night in Brighton? >Yup, "Piss Factory"...

i feel a kind of sickness in me that i missed her perform that, just once in my life, a song that never fails to move me at it's incediary brilliance

did she get off her mustang sally?
 
 
Michael Kemp
14:53 / 17.08.05
>did she get off her mustang sally?

she did indeed
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
15:48 / 17.08.05
Did she read it from the book or has she got it memorised? When I saw her do it a year or two back she had it written down to help her...
 
 
rizla mission
10:52 / 18.08.05
The Leicester show was Stadium Rock-tastic.

Not much poetry or mucking about unfortunately, but all the hits and much fist-pounding and singing along.

We were right at the front and caught a drumstick and plectrum!! Woo!
 
 
Michael Kemp
13:19 / 18.08.05
>Did she read it from the book or has she got it memorised? When I saw her do it a year >or two back she had it written down to help her...

she read it from a book, but then she chucked the book at the drum riser during the climax, which was rather wonderful...
 
 
Michael Kemp
08:06 / 23.08.05
my review/glorified diary note now up at

http://www.lazaruscorporation.co.uk/v4/articles/pattismith.php
 
 
Michael Kemp
08:55 / 23.08.05
sorry (i just got up) - it's here
 
 
Blake Head
23:49 / 16.04.06
I am the spring, the holy ground,
the endless seed of mystery,
the thorn, the veil, the face of grace,
the brazen image, the thief of sleep,
the ambassador of dreams, the prince of peace.
I am the sword, the wound, the stain.
Scorned transfigured child of Cain.
I rend, I end, I return.
Again I am the salt, the bitter laugh.
I am the gas in a womb of light, the evening star,
the ball of sight that leads that sheds the tears of Christ
dying and drying as I rise tonight.


I’ve always liked Horses but I never seemed to get anywhere with Easter. Horses feels like this huge urge towards independence, original gestation, being born out of the surf, that great youthful need to define yourself against your society and your peers. Whether it’s exaltation of the self and its history ‘Gloria’, lust for another liberating the individual ‘Break it Up’ or that plaintive need for self-sufficiency turning into largesse ‘Free Money’; it’s an album where the self is filled up till it’s overflowing into the love for others.

But whenever I played Easter it seemed weaker in comparison, the clarity of that independence was lost, its strengths seemed to draw on a past image and where it wanted to be expansive it felt frail, sometimes morose; I couldn’t identify with this new artist that didn’t seem as happy to stand on her own feet and had latched onto this alien-feeling Christianity. And so I was giving Easter another play today, and I don’t know if it’s the time of year or the distance since I last heard it, but it was subtly, crucially different: it “clicked”. You get a sense of Smith reflecting on the fiery optimism of her past that she could be self-sufficient and self-created, here she’s calling her artistic and spiritual totem figures together, she’s found religion but can say “I have not sold myself to God”, it’s the other way about. The desire for another in Horses has found itself reconfigured in universal terms “You are everything to me / all is in your name”. It’s confident and coherent and multi-layered in a way I’m not sure she’s repeated (though I’d be happy to hear suggestions). I’m still not sure it’s as stark and lovely as Horses, but it definitely rewarded coming back to it.

I’ve never felt that great an urge to explore her later work, I felt that as it moved away from that primal creativity I’d be less interested, plus reading her biography suggested that her own interests were elsewhere and that generally she was far more engaging in her music than in person. But I got a copy of her last album Trampin’ a while ago, and remember that it was hailed as something of a musical and personal resurgence for her (‘cos aren’t we just existing in an era of the recapitulation of our past glories?). However, I don’t know that it worked for me either in terms of re-capturing that ecstatic fervour in her earlier work or really either as a ballsy rock album. Certainly there’s a greater grounding in politics and strident spiritual hopefulness, and I’m quite fond of ‘My Blakean Year’, but it just didn’t cut it overall. Apart from the title track (which is a cover anyway) the songs simply aren’t that memorable. Maybe I just need to give it a few more years.

Also, I found out today that Patti Smith is opening an exhibition of her visual art with a performance in Glasgow on Wednesday (19th April). Needless to say the 100 tickets have sold out. Is anyone going? I’m still gutted that I couldn’t afford to go to any of the Meltdown stuff in London last year, it seemed like a great line-up, not to mention all the Blakean stuff that was being highlighted. To be quite honest, sucker as I am for any work of art even mentioning Blake, I think my interest falters somewhat when Smith comes across as incoherently as she sometimes does when she turns ‘visionary’, even though that’s always been an aspect of her work in some form. Sometimes it works, but at other points…

However, the exhibition in question goes on for a bit longer if anyone’s interested, details below:

Patti Smith – at The Mitchell Library, Glasgow UK.
Start Date: Thursday 20 April 2006
End Date: Tuesday 09 May 2006

An exhibition of drawings, paintings and photographs by the American musician, poet and performer Patti Smith. Smith is widely regarded as one of the most important and influential contributors to music and poetry in the last 40 years. Since the late 1960s she has made visual artworks that contain the emotional and lyrical characteristics of her poems and songs. As a passionate believer in the cathartic and redemptive power of art, Smith invests similar emotional and spiritual energy in her drawings, paintings and photographs as in her written and spoken words. The inspiration for Smith's artwork comes from a variety of autobiographical, artistic, historic, literary and spiritual sources. These range from the work of the 19th century French poet Arthur Rimbaud to the ideas of the British artist and visionary, William Blake (1757-1827), and the friendship and guidance of Smith's late friend, the artist and photographer, Robert Mapplethorpe (1946-89).
 
 
PatrickMM
04:01 / 02.10.06
Anyone else get tickets to Patti's final performance at CBGB's? It's the final performance at CBGB's ever, so there could be some cool guests, or at least a couple of encores. Now, I've got to do a binge on her recent stuff to catch up for the show.
 
 
doctorbeck
12:34 / 02.10.06
aw man i am so jealous you are going to that

looking forward to an indepth review from you
 
  
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