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Suede

 
 
NotBlue
18:51 / 19.07.02
Recording of Suede's new album finished last week at London's Townhouse studios. Brett and the boys are working away on a sequence for the songs. all that's left to do is a few nips, tucks and edits. Mastering is scheduled for 1st May and the record is expected to be in the shops in September

a totally revamped website to coincide with September's release of A New Morning

From Suede.net :-) :-) :-)
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
13:20 / 20.07.02
Well, seing as how when Bernard left they replaced him with little Dick and Neil Codling's synths where the best thing about Suede mark II I'm a bit dubious as to what the quality of the band now that he's gone is going to be.
 
 
{unknown user}
18:12 / 20.07.02
I heard the track 'film star' on Eddie Izzard's Glorious video, and I thought it was wicked. Need to listen to more of them...
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
20:13 / 20.07.02
3rd and 4th albums are quite poppy, first two albums all guitary and gloriously melodramatic. Both have their charms but early Suede just edges it for me.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
21:16 / 20.07.02
First album was a slight disappointment in that a huge chunk of it had already been released on singles. Dog Man Star is, for me, the best thing the group have done. It stretched (and tore through) the boundaries of what everyone expected from them.

When they first appeared, the UK indie market was awash with half-arsed DIY gumph (Senseless Things, Ned's Atomic Dustbin, Kingmaker*) where the groups involved were impossible to tell apart from the people in the moshpit. Part of the Suede ethos was to breathe life back into the idea of pop/rock stars. Anderson thought that what had been missing for far too long was the sense of putting on a show, making yourselves stand out, being something special. Ned's fans could easily get drunk with the band (on cider, probably). Suede wanted the fans to scream when Anderson so much as looked at them.

The whole Anderson/Butler relationship was persumably supposed to add to this. It was frequently compared to the Morrissey/Marr partnership, sometimes Bowie/Ronson. Again, the 'star' thing.

Dog Man Star, as Lada says, was all about the melodrama. It completely redefined people's notions of what an 'indie' act could pull off. The two singles, Stay Together (released between albums one and two) and The Wild Ones were absolutely magnificent. Once Butler left the group, the records quickly became far more simple, mostly coming on like a parody of the earlier days.

Check out the B-sides compilation, Sci-Fi Lullabies for proof - the first eleven tracks could quite easily have been released on a proper album (one that would have been far better than the group's first), whereas the ones that follow are - with maybe one exception - completely lacklustre.

Every now and again on the last two albums they'd stumble into a fairly fantastic riff or chorus, but they never even managed to hint at what they'd once been.

Current evidence suggests that they never will, but I remain hopeful.

*I think. Kingmaker may have been one of the groups to follow in their wake, I can't remember exactly.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
21:31 / 20.07.02
Oh god. Sad old fanboy hyperbole strikes again.
 
 
bio k9
00:34 / 21.07.02
Dog Man Star was one of those albums that makes you go out and find everything else the band has done. Sadly, I'd have been better off buying DogManStar and some Bowie records.
 
 
Shortfatdyke
05:49 / 21.07.02
i love the first suede album, but mostly i like their b-sides - 'killing of a flash boy' is one of my favourite songs. i went to a few fan club gigs as my sister was a member (i used to laugh at her until i found out that for ten quid a year she got to go to two gigs in tiny/wierd venues). they'd do suede kareoke before the band came on - audience members singing their fave songs, which was amazingly good fun - but i think they're probably rather off the boil now.
 
 
Nelson Evergreen
22:28 / 23.07.02
I can't help thinking Dog Man Star is a mixed bag; half of it's pretentious tuneless twiddling, the other half is pretentious skyscraping genius. It also bombed, which is why the post-Butler Suede returned to the ring with a deliberately light and fluffy pop album full of big choruses, which did precisely what what required of it and sold splendidly. So well in fact that when the follow up, "Head Music", came out a year or two later, it was adopted as the next in a long desperate line of post-Britpop guitar 'classics' that were expected to restore order to a slumping music industry...but even more so than usual: if you recall, every Virgin Megastore in the UK renamed itself "Head Music" throughout the first week of it's release.

It turned out to be an instant bargain bin job, of course. But it's not bad. The band were fantastic... they actually sounded like four musicians playing beautifully together, rather than a singer and a guitarist showing off while two other guys lurk at the back. None of which counts for anything as the lyrics were so embarrassing as to render the whole affair pretty much unlistenable. Nice one, Brett.

They probably are a spent force, but, well, I'll always have a soft spot, and it'll be interesting to hear the new stuff.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
16:14 / 24.07.02
Are you saying there's something embarrassing about:

"She live in a house
She stupid as a mouse"

Or:

"I feel schizo
Ever so psycho
Kicking at an old tin can"

?

Because if so, you're not wrong...

I still regard Head Music with affection - it does have a couple of classics on there: 'Indian Strings', 'Everything Will Flow', and 'She's In Fashion', surely one of the defining singles of the summer of 1999...

Maybe Suede will end up being seen as a singles band in retrospect: no bad thing. A 'Best of Suede' compilation would pretty much blow almost everything else off your stereo...
 
 
some guy
16:32 / 24.07.02
The infuriating thing about Suede is their inconsistency - for all the embarrassing songs on Head Music there's still the pop genius of Everything Will Flow. But I have a lot of respect for them; following DogManStar with Coming Up took balls, and CU ended up as one of those "every song a single" gems that few bands ever manage (and some of the b-sides from that time are amazing). And however you slice it, having Neil Tennat of all people be the surprise walk on guest during a live show is just class...

I agree with Flyboy that their singles collection will be smashing; I used to play the DVD that came out a while back non-stop as background music at work.
 
 
Nelson Evergreen
18:24 / 25.07.02
CU ended up as one of those "every song a single" gems that few bands ever manage

Which was exactly the point I was intending to make in my last post, until meanderment took hold. It's a gorgeous record. It got me through six dark months of working at the Wrexham branch of Our Price, selling endless Celine Dion CDs to people who frequently stank like public lavatories, and for that I salute it.
 
 
NotBlue
21:47 / 08.08.02
So has anyone heard the new single as played on jo whiley this week, I couldnt force myself to listen 'cos her and her ilk ,make me feel icky.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
06:10 / 07.10.02
A New Morning came out today, and I got it because a) it was only A$20 and b) I'm at work on a public holiday, feeling shite. Some places here are offering "Buy this and get Head Music free" deals - here's hoping I actually DO have a copy of it (I'm sure I do) and haven't missed out the opportunity to get an album for about a pound.

Early impressions: VERY glam. Quelle surprise. Very much a return to the bit-pop of Coming Up, requisite brilliant/ropey lyricism. Some nice, quieter tunes - I'm really quite enamored of "Lonely Girls" at the moment - but nothing that grabs by the throat yet. More upbeat than they've been, really, but that wouldn't be hard, I guess. More when I've had a non-work listen to it, though.

Oh - there's four bonus tracks on my version that I think're exclusive to the Australian release. Anyone know what's on the UK one?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
10:05 / 07.10.02
What in the name of all that's holy has happened to Brett Anderson's voice? He seems to have abandonned his trademark "aaaowww" stylings in favour of this weirdly toneless and oddly macho snarl... Gah.
 
 
some guy
13:42 / 07.10.02
What are the extra tracks on the Australian version?
 
  
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