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this'll help you sleep easier.

 
 
shirtless, beepers and suntans
19:35 / 04.11.01
new and improved.

goodbye freedom.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
20:25 / 04.11.01
Fuck. Now that is scary.
 
 
The Damned Yankee
22:51 / 04.11.01
(Walks up to the side of the road, pulls out a cardboard sign marked "CANADA", and sticks out his thumb.)
 
 
moriarty
00:59 / 05.11.01
"Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant: No matter how friendly and even-tempered the beast, one is affected by every twitch and grunt."
Pierre Trudeau

You'll find no haven here, my friend.
 
 
Harold Washington died for you
02:41 / 05.11.01
Isn't this what J. Edgar was doing all along?So now it's legal. While disturbing it has something going for it...

Those terrorists who fucked my tuesday morning had been living in the US for years. Bad people planning a military attack inside the US, with perhaps our laws protecting them. I do not like privacy invasions by MY government, but I'm going to be optimistic and think that they will have their hands full with real threats. Bad people they could not bust under the old rules, leaving them distracted as I continue my low level criminal lifestyle of recreational drug use and petty theft.

I just think I'm not important enough for the FBI to come after me, and I'm cool with that.
 
 
Cherry Bomb
16:00 / 05.11.01
So, Americans, where shall we go to form our own expat colony? Who's with me, now?

Seriously (not that I'm not half-serious with the above), I'm really getting tired of this "We need a new way of thinking," "new normalcy" bullshit these people keep spouting.

WHY??!?? I'm sorry but they told me in school that living in America meant I could pretty much do whatever the fuck I want, as long as I wasn't harming anyone. Whether it was true or not, I cling to it as "evidence." I thought my privacy was protected by the constitution.

I don't know why because those terrorists managed to pull of the WTC bombing we now have a justification for a ridiculous level of paranoid quasi-fascism in the name of "freedom." I swear Bush and his pals fucking LOVE this shit because they can cloak ANYTHING they want in the name of "freedom" and "patriotism." Well, fuck that, jack!

I hate these fuckers. GRR!!!
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
16:15 / 05.11.01
If they need a new way of thinking, why are they thinking in the old ways of 'blame everyone else, order more guns'? [/rhetorical question]
 
 
Ierne
18:40 / 05.11.01
So, Americans, where shall we go to form our own expat colony? Who's with me, now? – Cherry Bomb

Let's go.

(Paris?)
 
 
Cherry Bomb
18:45 / 05.11.01
Believe me, I've looked into Paris. They make it really fucking hard for Americans to work there (legally).

Greenland?

(runs & hides)
 
 
Wize Dragon
18:54 / 05.11.01
Were you ever free or was that concept a meme?
Who watches the Watchmen

While America fights terrorism in the Old World, the IRA still wanna blow me up.
South America thanks teh US for its Schools of America (the names have been changed to protect the ignorant)

OIL, Control, POWER, Guns, MONEY
Sounds like a rap record to me, to me, to me.

PEACE
 
 
shirtless, beepers and suntans
19:22 / 05.11.01
i saw a small story in the New York Times a couple of years ago about an island in the Pacific where the streets literally have no name, and buildings don't have numbers. it sounded like a great place to disappear to. i just may end up going...
 
 
Edgar Barefoot
22:01 / 05.11.01
All joking aside, is it best to leave and start some expatriate community somewhere, or would it be a better idea to stay and try to affect change for the better?

Personally, no matter how bad it gets, I'd rather stay and try to change things. . . .
 
 
The Damned Yankee
22:26 / 05.11.01
(tears up the "CANADA" sign and moseys on down to the Jersey shore. Idly wonders how many strokes it would take to get to England.)

How about Amsterdam? Of late I've been feeling the need to develop a serious drug problem, and when I do, I'd like to be someplace where the hassle is, at least, minimal.

(I'm joking, BTW. Well, kinda . . .)
 
 
gentleman loser
23:05 / 05.11.01
I seconds Amsterdam, or Vancouver maybe. Hear they got some good buds up there.
 
 
moriarty
03:59 / 06.11.01
Holy shit. If it's buds you're after, look no further than the Rose City. Third per capita in North America for drug trafficking behind New York and LA. Dig it.

Welland Buds, Number #1!
 
 
reidcourchie
07:09 / 06.11.01
"Known as the U.S.A. Patriot Act, the law empowers the government to shift the primary mission of the FBI from solving crimes to gathering domestic intelligence. In addition, the Treasury Department has been charged with building a financial intelligence-gathering system whose data can be accessed by the CIA.

Most significantly, the CIA will have the authority for the first time to influence FBI surveillance operations inside the United States and to obtain evidence gathered by federal grand juries and criminal wiretaps."

I miss Hoover.

"I have the names here of 65,000 Muslims living and working in the Washington area."

Or words to that effect. Is this just cyclical, neo-Mcarthyism followed by the reaction to that, laws repealed/reformed, the next scare more neo-Mcarthyism and ever onward.
 
 
Cherry Bomb
12:40 / 06.11.01
Oh, terrorism is the new red devil (communism), definitely. "Rooting out terrorists" can be used as a blanket excuse for discouraging "unamerican" opinions and encouraging searches without warrants.

Exhuming McCarthy indeed.
 
 
tracypanzer
13:52 / 06.11.01
Speaking of communism...
'Bush compares Taliban to Communist regimes' http://www.salon.com/news/wire/2001/11/06/bush_communist/index.html
 
 
rizla mission
14:12 / 06.11.01
Now the words 'stupid' and 'twat' have been used in reference to Bush many times before, but this just takes the biscuit..

quote:
President Bush on Tuesday compared Afghanistan's Taliban regime and its "mad global ambitions" to the totalitarian regimes that enslaved Europe for much of the last century, and asked the region's new leaders to join his anti-terrorism campaign.


%Yeah, look at those Taliban trampling over all and sundry in their unstoppable march towards global domination.. good job America's got plenty of bombs left or we'd all be speaking, er, Arab or something..%

quote:
"No nation can be neutral in this conflict," Bush told officials from Eastern Europe, the former Soviet Republics and the Balkans.


why the hell not?

quote:
"Like the Fascist totalitarians before them, these terrorists -- al-Qaida, the Taliban regime that supports them and other terror groups across the world -- try to impose their radical views through threats and violence."


to para-phrase Nick, the pot and the kettle look on in awe.

quote:
"We see the same intolerance of dissent, the same mad global ambitions, the same brutal determination to control every life and all of life. We have seen the true nature of these terrorists in the nature of their attacks," Bush said.


ok, now can anyone find even the smallest justification for accusing the Taliban - unsavoury as they may be in their own land - of harbouring 'mad global ambitions'?

lord
 
 
Chuckling Duck
16:07 / 06.11.01
quote:Originally posted by Rizla Year Zero:
ok, now can anyone find even the smallest justification for accusing the Taliban - unsavoury as they may be in their own land - of harbouring 'mad global ambitions'?


One of Al-Qaida’s stated goals is to unite Islam into a single caliphate and--forgive the cliché--conquer the world. I doubt most members of the Taliban would disagree with that goal.
 
 
Ierne
19:12 / 06.11.01
I doubt most Muslims would agree that the Taliban are the ones for the job, though.
 
  
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