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iconoplast
10:31 / 28.04.04
One of the most disturbing Starbucks stories I've heard has to be that in some city here in the US, there is a Starbucks... right across the street from a Starbucks.

Astor Place, New York City.

Yes, if you are meeting someone at "The Starbucks on Astor Place," you have to qualify, "Which Starbucks on Astor Place?"
 
 
Loomis
12:37 / 29.04.04
That's part of their long-term strategy. They purposely put more than one in the same small area so that even though each store makes less, it increases the odds that customers will go to a Starbucks, thus taking money from other stores which will eventually shut. Once the competition has gone, they can close one of the Starbucks if necessary.
 
 
Baz Auckland
15:42 / 29.04.04
...but oddly enough they don't seem to ever close their stores. Even when they've completely taken over an area, they just keep expanding more and more. (shudder)

I guess they think it's worth it to prevent a coffee shop from opening in the newly vacant space.
 
 
Cheap. Easy. Cruel.
14:52 / 06.05.04
Apparently, some people are violently opposed to their expansion. linky
 
 
diz
12:22 / 11.05.04
One of the most disturbing Starbucks stories I've heard has to be that in some city here in the US, there is a Starbucks... right across the street from a Starbucks. I can't remember where, though, so if someone could back me up/verify this, it'd be appreciated.

there's an intersection in San Diego near where i used to live where there are four Starbucks locations. two of them are franchise operations (one in a Barnes and Noble big box bookstore and the other in a supermarket), but still, four at one intersection.
 
 
diz
12:45 / 11.05.04
...but oddly enough they don't seem to ever close their stores. Even when they've completely taken over an area, they just keep expanding more and more. (shudder)

I guess they think it's worth it to prevent a coffee shop from opening in the newly vacant space.


that's not it. there was a big report that came out last year, actually, that seemed to suggest that the presence of a Starbucks actually helped local coffeeshops. most places that feared going out of business have actually reported a slight upsurge. the theory is that widespread availability of Starbucks creates a culture of coffee consumers, who then patronize other places as well as SBUX.

anyway, the reason they're all over isn't about competition, it's about distribution. Coke understands this, and that's why it consistently whoops Pepsi. you can spend all the money on Super Bowl ads that you want, but the best way to make sure that the customer picks your product is to always make sure that it's Right There In Their Face All The Freaking Time. Starbucks will continue to do well as long as you never, ever have to go out of your way to find one.

oh, but, anyway, i used to be very anti-Starbucks, until i started noticing that they were generally much better places to work than most jobs at their rung. in general, most of my friends who are in college or just out of college have found that Starbucks is by far the most attractive job option, since they pay reasonably well, have an outstanding benefits package for jobs at that level, and are much more mellow about schmoozing customers to buy shit than any retail place i've ever seen. the schedule issue kind of sucks, but they are retail, and that's pretty much par for the course in retail and food service.

on some day-to-day level, you kind of have to approach this as a realist, and stop asking "are they a worse place to work than they ideally could be, in some socialist/anarchist/take-your-pick fantasy world?", but rather "are they a better place to work than virtually all of their competitors?"
 
 
Cheap. Easy. Cruel.
16:50 / 06.08.04
After reading this article, I think that they are the devil.

I can understand their need to protect their trademark, but I don't really see how someone would mistake Star Bock for Starbucks. BTW, the author made a mistake on the name, it is two words.
 
 
Baz Auckland
18:55 / 07.08.04
There's also the Haida Bucks lawsuit, as well as the awful Consumer Whore lawsuit against a Sbux parody... (the link's on the top right of the menu)
 
  

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