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Audiogalaxy replacements.

 
 
uncle retrospective
22:25 / 20.06.02
Well the Audiogalaxy dead thread doesn't quite fit the bill.
The question is simple can you suggest a replacement?

I thank you.
 
 
Red Cross Iodized Salt
23:37 / 20.06.02
I was getting a lot of results for MP3s and cracked software with WinMX (Windows only), but couldn't connect the last time I tried to log on, so I'm not sure if they're having problems or not...be warned that they'll try to put spyware on your PC, so download and install AdAware if you decide to use it...

There's also Kazaa (which I haven't used) and Limewire (which is crap, but was the only one I could find that would run on OSX).
 
 
Thjatsi
01:22 / 21.06.02
I am using Bearshare. I like it.
 
 
The Strobe
07:44 / 21.06.02
Kazaa all the way, especially when I remember to delete the spyware.

Not so good on rare stuff, but still pretty handy.
 
 
sleazenation
09:56 / 21.06.02
Limewire works and is gnutella powered so effectively unstoppable as long as people keep using it...
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
12:26 / 21.06.02
I really hate Kazaa. It's just awful, it's disorganized, and the collective database only ever has the most popular music, so if yr looking for anything obscure, yr totally fucked.

I haven't found anything as wonderful as Audiogalaxy, but I have been using SoulSeek, which is pretty good. The steady influx of former AG users added to a database already rich in obscure electronic music is the most promising hope to recreate the breadth of the AG database. I'm there, you can my stuff there. So's Nikon Driver, and some other record-collector types that I know. I strongly recommend that you all join in, cos we've got to work together to create a strong database of songs.

Note: as of this writing, SoulSeek is temporarily down, they are upgrading their services to accomodate the huge number of new users.
 
 
Grey Area
12:59 / 21.06.02
Why not start a Barbelith Music Collections database? It doesn't quite solve the sending files back and forth problem, but seeing as a lot of people on this board share the same music tastes, at least we could try and distribute the files amongst ourselves.

Most of us have access to file storage on the web in one form or another. You just have to arrange to upload files and rename them in a pre-arranged way in order to circumvent the anti-MP3 mechanisms employed by some (if not most) of the companies and ISP's that provide web-space. I'm just firing this into the ether off the top of my head, but with some careful planning, it might work as an alternative for those of us who still want to share our music but cannot use the other p2p mechanisms out there (I know my uni has blocked access to SoulSeek, Filetopia, Gnutella, Kazaa, and most of the other alternatives).

The way it could work:
1. Use winamp to generate an html playlist of every song you have on your harddrive.
2. Upload this to a central location managed by volunteers from the board.
3. People can scan the lists (or even search them if the volunteers have enough web-programming savvy) and then contact the owner through the board or e-mail to request a copy of a song.
4. The song gets uploaded by the owner to their own web-space and downloaded by the person who requested it.
5. Deletion of the file is up to the owner's discretion.

Any thoughts on this? Could it work?
 
 
tSuibhne
14:59 / 21.06.02
Anyone know what's up with Soulseek? Their site's down. Just maintence, or have they gotten taken out?

Also, Kazaa went bankrupt a few months ago. Officially it was the pressure from the RIAA and MPAA. The fact that they were getting torn apart in the press for a ton of really shady shit, probably didn't hurt though. I'm with Flux, the interface wasn't that good. And when you factor in all the shit they tried to pull, it was just never worth it.
 
 
bio k9
16:14 / 21.06.02
Try this:

Run a find file in the folder where your windows is installed for a file called "hosts". if you can't find that, look for "lmhosts" instead. once you find it, open it in a text editor and map www.soulseek.org to IP address 195.74.211.135. there should be textual instructions in the file that explain how to map a domain to an IP address. should be something along the lines of just adding a line with the IP address then the domain:

195.74.211.135 www.soulseek.org
 
 
Thjatsi
17:16 / 21.06.02
I know my uni has blocked access to SoulSeek, Filetopia, Gnutella, Kazaa, and most of the other alternatives.

How does someone block access to the Gnutella network? I was under the impression that it was a pretty loosely organized system of users without a central server.
 
 
tSuibhne
15:14 / 24.06.02
Bio:

Run a find file in the folder where your windows is installed for a file called "hosts". if you can't find that, look for "lmhosts" instead. once you find it, open it in a text editor and map www.soulseek.org to IP address 195.74.211.135. there should be textual instructions in the file that explain how to map a domain to an IP address. should be something along the lines of just adding a line with the IP address then the domain:

195.74.211.135 www.soulseek.org


Or I could just use the ip address instead of the name. Plus, the above creates a problem if soulseek ever has to change it's IP address (if they change hosting companies, or if the hosting company makes changes).
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
15:27 / 24.06.02
SoulSeek has been working fine since two days ago. It was down because they were modifying the servers to accomodate the increased traffic. If it's not working on yr computer as of this writing, something is wrong with your computer.
 
 
Spaniel
14:48 / 07.09.02
Back to the top!

Can't get soulseek working. Is it buggered? Are there any good alternatives? Kazaa really ain't that great.
 
 
Jack Fear
15:46 / 07.09.02
Kazaa is a slow, crashy piece of shit.

Limewire is okay, but not great--it's caused me some crashes, the search function is pretty flaky, and the selection depends on the alignment of the planets. But the interface is easy to use, and the search-voyeur feature is amusing.

I keep hearing good things about summat called SongSpy. Anyone have any firsthand dirt?
 
 
gozer the destructor
15:48 / 07.09.02
Yep, kazaa is crappy and winmx seems to have died.

For fucks sake...
 
 
videodrome
16:32 / 07.09.02
Well, going to www.songspy.com gives you most of the info you need. Will try it later.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
17:44 / 07.09.02
If yr having troubles with Soulseek, go here, download the new version, and you'll be okay.
 
 
tSuibhne
12:11 / 09.09.02
Two things

1) If you can't connect to WinMX, go download the new version (3.3) That solved my problems (the new version also has a few improvements that make the system a little easier to work with)

2) Another option to throw in the mix, Furthur Network.

Now, before you go running off, this network has several differences from other P2P that need to be noted.

The biggest difference is intent. The Further Network was set up by the "live tape trading" community (people who trade "tapes" [now ussually CDs] of live performances) for the purpose of spreading live recordings. As such it only allows for two formats, mp3 and shn. It also contains no officially available material. I'd imagen that all of it is made up of live performances, but there may be some random demo tapes floating around as well.

The "live tape trading" community tends to revolve around the Grateful Dead/Phish/jamband scene. And those areas are deffinetly well represented, but there is also a small representation of bands that many here would dig (Bjork, Godspeed You Black Emperor, Flaming Lips, Sonic Youth, Jicks, Wilco, and a few others).

And for those who are worried about the quality of these recordings, know that this community is notorious for anal retentive tapers. (tapers=people who record the shows) I'd say over 90% of the serious tapers I've met will simply not spread a show that doesn't sound good. And thier definition of sound good is a lot stricter then yours (many can litterally hear the sound degredation caused by mp3s) So while everything might not be mint, the signal to noise ratio is going to be better then any other P2P network.

And an added bonus is it's probably the closest thing to bullet proof that the P2P movement has. None of the material on the site is available for official release, which cuts down on the "stealing" arguement. And almost all (if not all, I don't know) of the bands represented have given permission for the trading of these recordings (as long as money doesn't change hands). So, with the possible exception of may be one or two bands, the entire network is completly legal.

Um... what else (I gave up on sleep last night about an hour before I had to be at work, so forgive the rambling)

For information on the shn format (including software for transfering it to CD) check out etree.org

Oh, and Flux, if you're still looking to check out some Lake Trout, they've got a strong representation. Anything from 'cortex' (basically the band's archivsts) should sound great. And speaking of sounding great, I've heard really good things about the recording of the Reliegh, NC Sonic Youth show from this last tour. The guy who submitted it was 'datgeek' who's also a really good taper.

Um, I think that's it.
 
 
No star here laces
08:01 / 10.09.02
Anybody ever seen a soulseek client for MacOS 9.x? I'm informed the debian linux client works on OSX intermittently, but I need to upgrade and until then I'm stuck with Limewire...

But seriously, shouldn't the mp3-trading community all be getting behind Gnutella or Freenet in a concerted effort? Because they are properly P2P and un-shutdownable it makes much more sense than pissing around on soulseek and suchlike. Plus I want all the good tunes off soulseek...
 
  
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