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Sigils and UFOs

03:21 / 20.06.02

I have been thinking about such things as Valis and Barbelith for a while now. Today, I created a sigil saying something like "I know you're there. Talk to me." and instead of charging it I drew it with chalk on the wall next to the library's entrance. Now, a few minutes ago I saw a UFO! My first. It was like a big strobe light in the sky flying around at odd angles (pretty standard for these things.) the it went behind a large tree in the distance and disappeared.
Could this be first contact? The strobing and flight pattern an unconscious message? I don't know but I'm pretty fucking thrilled and a bit afraid. I didn't expect a response so soon and so dramatic. I don't think I'm ready to get abducted. Fucking A, I hope they're like E.T.!

Thoughts?

06:09 / 20.06.02

Interesting... I wonder if they were aliens? or just higher dimensional beings again, slumming it in 3d.

18:40 / 21.06.02

I hope they're like E.T.!

Okay, everybody has his tastes and expectations, I personally hope they are like Carmen Electra on LSD.

It was like a big strobe light in the sky flying around at odd angles

Got the message: meet me tonight at the disco, I'll be the guy that looks like John Travolta.

Enough said of the above, I think you are definitely in the track. If we assume that they have indeed "talked" to you, then next step would be to ask for something specific, the "show-me-something" part, also via a chalked sigil. Of course, if no specifics come to mind, I would ask "show me something good", and would suggest to leave aside the "show me what I have to do with my life" thing (the self-help book market is definitely overflowed these days, but anyway I do not htink that is your vein). Hell, who knows, you could also ask them to "take me on a safe roller coaster space trip to see the Halley comet".

Whatever, the safest valve for this is to go to bed at night and allow things to occur when you are "asleep". One of the most secure ways to blow your mind is to live through the end of the universe and then wake up mind boggled in your warm bed sheets right out of a panic attack, the Sun coming through the window, and the birds chirping outside.

Wrecks City-Zen

22:54 / 21.06.02

Pimpulsivelad...look this up.

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And then we can combine the cattle mutilations thread with this one..har!

(Wait! I'm not supposed to be here )

07:44 / 22.06.02

"If we assume that they have indeed "talked" to you, then next step would be to ask for something specific, the "show-me-something" part"

Granted, but what did they tell me? Maybe my next sigil should be "specify!"

20:27 / 22.06.02

but what did they tell me? Maybe my next sigil should be "specify!"

Yep, considering your first sigil was "I know you're there. Talk to me." it just looks that they "talked to you" and thats it, "you spotted us, you acknowledged us, we are talking to you". Bear with me -or with them- on this, because this is like talking to, well, aliens. Imagine talking to an octopus while doing scuba diving. You can only make banal gestures with your hands and spurt oxygen bubbles (blublublu), and all these if we consider that the eyes of the octopus see what our eyes see.

The only thing I suggest is not to ask them to be specific, cause history and esoteric lore and journalism has proved that most times a human being goes into this ramble with chaps from the other side they start receiving messages of how great and knowledgable they are, "WE-HAVE-BEEN-AROUND-ZILLIONS-OF-YEARS-BEFORE-YOUR-
SPECIE-EVOLVED-STOP-EATING-AT-MACDONALDS-CAUSE-IT-
RAISES-YOUR-CHOLESTEROL-WE-KNOW-THE-CURE-FOR-CANCER-
WE-HAVE-SEEN-THE-END-OF-YOUR-RACE-SPACE-TIME-IS-A-RIDDLE-
WE-HAVE-SOLVED-DEATH-DOES-NOT-EXIST" (and now its obvious that even myself could go on forever).

Nothing wrong in asking them to start the talk, but the sanest thing I've ever read about this approach is that Crowley said you should do it but with at least three different types of entities, you contact one, listen to it, and then invoke the second, talk and listen, and then the third. By the third encounter you have probably heard so much crap and inconsistency that you are ready to admit to yourself that nothing is TRUE, no matter what cardiologists say about cholesterol. This is summarised in Cosmic Trigger by RAW. Just in case, take three minutes to read the prologue here.

So, again, the most exciting thing for me is just to go for the "show me______" and you fill in the blank. ("I wanna see Episode III and Spiderman 2 NOW!!!"). Its worth trying.

23:02 / 22.06.02

yeah, your absolutely right. To ask them to specify would be counter productive. I already know everything

BUT I don't have a 5th Dimensional shuttle so I should ask them to hook me up.

No really, your "show me blank" is a good idea... now I have to think of what I want to see.

20:02 / 28.06.02

Basically, a large part of the UFO lore is subjective and many alleged UFO events are actually the products of a complex hallucinatory process, particularly in the contactee and CE III-type reports. The same process stimulated religious beliefs, fairy lore, and occult systems of belief in other centuries.

Quoted from Keel, John A.(b. 1930)

So, Imp, as UFOs roam in my country over cattle, any reports from you?

23:19 / 28.06.02

Last night I drew up a sigil containing the message, "Help me understand how the universe works." or something like that... and chalked it up. No response yet.

Was that too ambitious?

02:36 / 29.06.02

Uhmm, well, lessee, you have bees, and you have birds, and a mommy deer and a daddy deer, and then one puts a little seed in the belly of the other and a baby Bambi is born.

No, I do not think it was ambitiuos. You are in for the big trip thing, and the chaps usually take you literally. What I would expect is that it will take some time to concoct, but who knows anyway. I have implanted magickal desires, so to speak, years back, that are now dancing in front of my eyes. Others took less time, but those that took more are the most impressive and literal. Some of them were so extraordinarily powerful when felt, that now I can consider that their own fullfilment was creating a force of attraction from the future, which for certain perspectives is also a valid point.

Whatever, what I wanna learn from aliens is just how is it they come in and out of space-time as I go in and out of the restroom, and that trick on leaving people with blank amnesia is quite cool also. For all contact experiences I've read about, it is they who always appear as managing the whole show, unless, of course, we speak of the ol'magickians of yore, and thats what we are here for, right? Now, if your cosmogony throws any light on this once revealed let me know.

I'll continue to follow the little pieces scatered around and put them here.

19:32 / 18.07.02

fucking balls! i tried contacting the 'aliens' but got zero results. i've been drawing my sigil all over the place, but got zilch. do i have to charge the sigil first? doh!

Higher than the sun :)

23:35 / 18.07.02

Well I'm just about to watch communion. Honestly.

06:45 / 19.07.02

After my second sigil I saw the UFO again... but that's it. No further contact.

Higher than the sun :)

10:58 / 19.07.02

Perhaps they've put memory blocks in your head. Check your anus.