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Dr. Who & The Invisibles

00:42 / 20.06.02

I want to know some concrete influences of Dr. Who in The Invisibles, because here in Argentina a very good channel is playing the serie.

Thanks

...and sorry my english.

14:07 / 06.07.02

Might as well recycle this thread rather than start a new Doctor Who thread. Anybody else wonder if the guy who plays Giles would just be a re-hash of Colin Baker's Doctor Who? Even if it is, there's no way it could suck harder than the American version of Dr. Who (starring I from "Withnail & I"). >>shudders<<

BBC likes the idea of Buffy star playing Doctor Who

The BBC says it likes the idea of Buffy The Vampire Slayer star Anthony Stewart Head playing Doctor Who.

Buffy producer David Fury claims he is to work as an adviser on a new series of the classic sci-fi show.

But the BBC had denied it is currently making any such plans.

However, the BBC's own website reports the channel's cult team quite likes the idea of Head as the Doctor.

According to the Daily Express, the BBC is planning a new series of Doctor Who to be shown next year, to celebrate the show's 40th anniversary.

Fury said: "They want to do what we do on Buffy, produce 22 episodes a year and sell them internationally.

"I'm helping to take Doctor Who into a new universe."

Our Lady of The Two Towers

18:36 / 06.07.02

Ever since Who was cancelled everyone at the BBC has loved it as a money making show... except for the people that actually spend money on shows. The last series had less total money than an episode of Red Dwarf being made at the time.

As for Doctor Who influences on The Invisibles, I don't think there are any conscious riffs, but if you grow up in Britain at a certain time then you couldn't fail to be aware of Doctor Who. I guess the closest thing is the way that all the different Doctor's have different personalities as well as bodies is sort of similar to the whole fiction suit thing, experiencing something through different people. In an interview the script editor for the final few years of the show revealed that the big mystery about the Doctor that they tried to tease the rapidly diminishing audience with was that he was actually God, come down to experience his own creation.

00:20 / 07.07.02

Actually the God riff came from writer Kevin Clarke and was never considered by the production team. Script editor Andrew Cartmel dismissed the idea in favor of one of his own, which was eventually revealed in the novel Lungbarrow.

The Anthony Head rumors likely originated by the fact that he recently starred as a villain in several new Doctor Who audio plays. You can find more information at www.doctorwho.co.uk. It wouldn't be the first time the UK papers got their facts mixed up.

The series' influence on The Invisibles is like as Misheard said. One story is namechecked outright, and the show is used as shorthand for "strange events are happening" a few times.

I'm such a geek.

04:33 / 07.07.02

Having seen a total of 3 Dr. Who episodes.. (two with the guy with the brocoli and one with the older guy..this canuck hasnt seen a DR.WHo since he was in elementary school) I really like the idea of Rowan Atkinson as the good Doctor. I saw a picture of him in the who outfit and I was taken aback at how good he looked in the part. If he can take on the role without resorting to his comedy schtick he would be so amazing.

And speaking of the invis. anyone have a pic of a younger Anthony Head? One of my friend asy she would have made the perfect king mob when he was younger.

09:28 / 07.07.02

There was that rumour I while back (confirmed actually) that Grant Morrison was writing a Dr. Who 'New Adventures' book.. doesn't look like anything came of it though.. I used to read those books when I was little .. some of them are really good..

11:54 / 07.07.02

Yes, Virgin books were doing some interesting stuff with a whole load of new writers.

But my favourites were the first series of four that started the New Adventures, first one was a tad weak but then came Doctor Who vs the Nazis loads of fun in a parrallel earth. The intelligent church called saul in the last book was also a rather fun and would have fitted the series to a t.

Rowan Atkinson as the Doctor? Hmmm I'd need some convincing that he could do it without too much humour, but Robbie Coltrane managed to do straight acting.

Oh my favourite doctor is Sylvester McCoy, but with Sophie Aldred not the other one

. Favourite episodes oooh now thats difficult, Battlefield because its got the Brigader in, Silver Nemesis becuase of cybermen and time travelling elizabethans and finally The Curse of Fenric, which has nicholas parsons dying horribly

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12:35 / 07.07.02

Grant claims to have written a Doctor Who film treatment recently. He's expressed interest in writing one of the novels but I don't think he's got the discipline ... or the interest in the pathetically small fee.

Rowan Atkinson played the Doctor in a two-part story by Steven Moffatt of Coupling fame. His assistant was Julia Sawalha, with Jonathan Pryce as the Master. The Doctor is killed by the Daleks and regenerates into Richard E Grant, Jim Broadbent, Hugh Grant and finally Joanna Lumley. It was pretty good, actually.

A lot of the final New Adventures were fantastic, especially the one by Queer As Folk's Russell T Davies...

Our Lady of The Two Towers

19:38 / 07.07.02

Laurence Llewelyn-Bowen is my god "Actually the God riff came from writer Kevin Clarke and was never considered by the production team. Script editor Andrew Cartmel dismissed the idea in favor of one of his own, which was eventually revealed in the novel Lungbarrow."

Well, in that case Andrew Cartmel rewrote history then, because in an interview for Doctor Who Magazine he claimed to come up with the idea because John Nathan-fatbeard wanted to revitalise the mystery of the show, and they agreed to it but that they wouldn't ever be able to say that that was who the Doctor was. I don't know who Kevin Clarke is so wouldn't have read any interview of his claiming that.
Secondly, 'Lungbarrow' the original idea (ie; Ghostlight) and then later the New Adventure were both written by Mark 'League of Gentlemen' Gatiss weren't they? So why would Cartmel be involved with either? The only NA's he wrote before I gave up on them were those horrible cyberpunk ones, second in crapness only to Ben Aaronovitch's 'Transit' where the Doctor gets drunk and possibly has sex.

22:17 / 07.07.02

Kevin Clarke wrote Silver Nemesis. Cartmel's idea was basically that the Doctor is the reincarnation of one of the original trio of Gallifreyans who created Time Lord society. This "masterplan" is hinted at beginning in Remembrance of the Daleks and ultimately spelled out in Lungbarrow, which was based in part on a proposal by Marc Platt. The "masterplan" elements of Cartmel's vision were added to Platt's novel; they weren't featured in the television pitch version, which became Ghost Light.

For more information on Cartmel's vision for Doctor Who and details on Clarke's rejected 'God' scenario, check out Virgin's The Seventh Doctor Handbook or The Eighties. I've got the last 150 issues of DWM and don't ever recall Cartmel endorsing the 'God' plan...

Transit is the Invisibles of Doctor Who...

I am such a geek.

09:41 / 08.07.02

and finally The Curse of Fenric, which has nicholas parsons dying horribly

My generation was very young when the Curse of Fenric was on TV. Occasionally, those of us who saw it get together and huddle in corners, weeping. It was that scary.

The last ever storyline though, the one with the cat-people .. what a bunch of wank.. a really undignified way to end the series..