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New X-men #132

 
  

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Mr Wolfe
19:47 / 19.06.02
 
 
glassonion
21:16 / 19.06.02
oo
 
 
The Dadaist
00:48 / 20.06.02
Great
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
01:05 / 20.06.02
Here's the solicitition information for that comic:

NEW X-MEN #132
Cover by Frank Quitely
Grant Morrison (w)/Phil Jimenez (p)
One year after 9/11, the X-Men confront their own great loss! 12 months after tragedy, Professor X and Storm return to Genosha - the island of mutants obliterated by Cassandra Nova - and discover that everything is not as it seems! Guest-starring - from the pages of X-Treme X-Men - Storm!
32 pgs. with ads/FC/Marvel PG $2.25


Hmmm. Storm. That should be interesting, especially considering that the premise of Claremont's X-Treme X-Men comic is that her group has abruptly abandoned the Xavier Institute, and cannot trust Xavier for some silly reason involving Destiny's prophecies. I wonder what kind of conversation they will have...
 
 
CameronStewart
01:58 / 20.06.02
This must be the "ultimate Magneto story" to which Grant alluded in his original proposal, as seen in the back of the trade paperback...
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
02:45 / 20.06.02
No, it's not. Grant was asked about that in the recent Newsarama article, and said that he dropped that idea before 114 was written - he decided to kill Magneto in Genosha instead. He also mentioned that the plans that he had for Rogue and Gambit have also been abandoned.
 
 
The Natural Way
08:10 / 20.06.02
No, Flux - he didn't quite say that, not about the Magneto storyline.

From Newsarama:

'NRAMA: Speaking of one of those villains of the X-Men’s “family,” is the “ultimate Magneto” storyline still in the works? If so, how? From all appearances, it looks like Magneto was killed in the early moments of the attack on Genosha.

GM: “Yes. Magneto was killed in Genosha but that doesn't mean his influence can't be felt. Che Guevara was killed in Bolivia in 1967 but he still sells T-shirts."'
 
 
The Natural Way
11:04 / 20.06.02
Oh yeah, and I know I say it all the time, but.....that cover: best yet.
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
11:38 / 20.06.02
of course storm is there, what would phil jiminez do if he couldnt draw a woman and make her look just like every other woman he draws.

its sad i say that being a cynic as well as a fan of his WW run...
 
 
Sandfarmer
13:41 / 21.06.02
Phil drew a couple of different women in the Invisibles and pulled it off very well. Yeah, all the Wonder ladies look the same in his comic but that is kind of how WW has always been. They are all Amazons after all. And besided, that one chick that Jiminez can draw, is a fine looking chick.
 
 
The Natural Way
19:13 / 05.09.02
It's out next week.

Go viddy the previews over at www.popcultureshock.com

NOW.
 
 
kid coagulant
19:54 / 05.09.02
Is that guy on page 3 a young-looking Magneto?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
20:19 / 05.09.02
No, that's Magneto's son, Quicksilver.

The artwork looks lovely - I think Phil Jiminez is a really great fit for the book. This issue is kinda like the beginning of the new NXM era of having a true 3 artist cycle - Frank, Ethan, and Phil, all of whom suit the comic well. Thank god! And Frank's return is only a couple months away...and with his return, I'm hoping the story gets fast and compelling again after the past few month's series of smaller stories and vignettes.
 
 
Murray Hamhandler
21:48 / 05.09.02
Yeah. Out next week. One single week after the current issue. I saw my retailer flipping through the promo of 132 and I'm all like, "Do whaaaat?". But in a good way, you know. But does this mean no more New X-Men for a while, then?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
03:15 / 06.09.02
The next issue is set to come out on the third week of October, and from there on the comic will be coming out every month in the third week. The comic's been pretty much on time for a while now. We'll be going monthly til next summer, I imagine.
 
 
LDones
03:31 / 06.09.02
Good God, Jimenez' artwork is insultingly good in those preview images. It's just so damn... information-rich. Colors, also, are pretty. Can you feel the electricity building up behind this one again? Urgh, comic books are rad.
 
 
kid coagulant
12:14 / 06.09.02
No Flux, the other guy on page 3. The one in what looks like Magneto's costume. Magneto's ghost perhaps?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
12:18 / 06.09.02
That's Unus The Untouchable, who is an old-school 60s X-Men villain. He was a member of Magneto's Brotherhood - his power was that he had a special force field which made him, well, untouchable. Clearly, he's not doing so well in this issue.
 
 
kid coagulant
12:30 / 06.09.02
Unus the Untouchable? OK then. Thanks, Flux.
 
 
Professor Silly
18:41 / 06.09.02
Flux wrote "Hmmm. Storm. That should be interesting, especially considering that the premise of Claremont's X-Treme X-Men comic is that her group has abruptly abandoned the Xavier Institute, and cannot trust Xavier for some silly reason involving Destiny's prophecies. I wonder what kind of conversation they will have...".

I admit it, and feel free to mock me if you will: I've kept up on the Clairmont stories over in X-Treme X-Men. While I certainly don't enjoy it in the same way I do NXM, I still find the series entertaining. That said, here's what's happened lately:

Storm and crew broke off from the Institute to search out Destiny's diaries. They wanted a separation from Xavier in case he went all batty again (as sort-of happened with C.Nova). During this last story Rogue proved that the diaries don't predict an unavoidable future, and merely provide a guideline of "what will most likely happen" and stuff. So the diaries have lost their overall value and the whole premise to Clairmont's book has been dumped.

My guess? Clairmont didn't fully expect or understand what Grant would do to the X-Men, and now that he's realized the extent of these 21st century changes he has decided to jump on board...so to speak.
 
 
Seth
20:09 / 06.09.02
Ooh! It's so good to see GM wearing his PJs again! I'm getting Invisibles chills!
 
 
Spatula Clarke
23:04 / 06.09.02
Don't really want to turn this into a Q&A session, but who's the green-haired woman on the banner on the preview page?
 
 
LDones
01:21 / 07.09.02
That'd be Polaris. Similar powers to Magneto, and thought she was his daughter for a time, if I'm not mistaken. (Though I don't know if they ever officially re/debunked that idea)

Here's a profile. (Warning: itty bitty type ahead)
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
12:56 / 07.09.02
I'm sorry but this sort of stuff is exciting me far more than 'The Filth'.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
18:28 / 07.09.02
Well, Lada, that's because Grant's ideas and writing on NXM are far better than what he's doing on Filth. New and exciting vs. re-heated Invisibles - NXM wins. That's what I think, anyway.

Anyway, back to X-trivia, Polaris (Lorna Dane) is not related to Magneto at all, though she was led to believe that for a while. Lorna's had a hard x-life - she's lost her boyfriend Havok several times over, she's been possessed and made evil about three or four times, she's been consistently lied to about her origins.
 
 
Graeme McMillan
18:40 / 07.09.02
"Lorna's had a hard x-life... she's been possessed and made evil about three or four times..."

Hasn't every woman under Claremont's reign (with the exception of Kitty Pryde, but Warren Ellis took care of that in Excalibur)? It's his favourite writing fetish, after all...
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
11:10 / 08.09.02
Oh don't worry, he had Kitty Pryde become a possesed ninja during some crappy mini-series with Wolverine.

Everyone gets to dance with the devil in the pale moonlight.
 
 
glassonion
11:12 / 08.09.02
and sabra and thunderbird? who they?
 
 
The Falcon
13:55 / 08.09.02
Sabra is an Israeli mutant, who works for dubious organisation #1, Mossad. Thunderbird is one of the X-Treme team; don't ask me, I don't read the bloody thing.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
00:19 / 12.09.02
It was pretty good, though I feel slightly let down. I'm not sure why, exactly - I wasn't really digging Grant's strange approach to narrative in this issue. I did really appreciate that Grant was the first x-writer to ever note the connection between magnetism and recorded sound. I wish this issue had come before the previous issue, because after the big cliffhanger of 131, this felt like it just got in the way. I want to get back to the main story, and hopefully the next issue will bring us back to that.
 
 
uncle retrospective
16:08 / 12.09.02
New Xmen is really beginning to annoy me, I loved the last issue, I seem to be far more interested in the soap opera of the team members and the school than Grant's Big ideas, I dunno the big booming voice from the past left me cold.
But on the plus side with the art team of Ethan, Phil and Frank this is going to be one fantastic looking book.
 
 
Seth
17:37 / 12.09.02
I agree that Jean and Scott's relationship is becoming much more interesting than some of the other stories. I've just got a hunch that their relationship is one of the "big ideas," and that Scott's underexplored perspective on things is going to become pretty central to how a lot of the book plays out.
 
 
houdini
20:53 / 12.09.02
I think it's very significant that this book shipped (at least in the US) on September 11th. I remember on the WTC day thinking a lot back to the end of nXm #114 with Xavier saying "All these people... they were drinking tea... making love..." as the MegaSentinels ripped apart Genosha. 12 months ago that looked like a pretty eerie serendipity.

I know that eg. DC are doing a 911 tie-in with a one-page "commentary" from Paul Levitz in the back. Flipping full a book filled with ads for video games (pic: a handfull of 7.62 shells, caption: "It's better to give than to receive") and USArmy recruitment (pic: three grimacing butch boys in low-rez b+w, caption: "I am a United States Marine. My speciality is weapons") I couldn't help but find Levitz's meanderings on the better world that may emerge from the carnage as a bit... surreal. Not ill-intentioned. Not cynical or exploitative. Just that it was really hard to feel that I was on the same page with him. By contrast, reading Grant's revisit to Genosha, I felt a spark of empathy for those 3,000 and some people who were murdered a year ago. And by putting this in such a context I thought Morrison was able to create a genuine emotional reaction without coming off as either a bandwagon-jumper or an exploiter.

Plus, Phil Jimenez is a god and I want to have his children. This is how X-Men would look if it had been reimagined as Kirby's New Gods. It was so weirdly beautiful.... Eldritch.
 
 
Mr Tricks
23:03 / 12.09.02
I totally Agree with the 9-11 factor...

This issue made a far better "tribute" than any of that "we STILL remember!!!" crap.

Phil's art is FAB!!! the inking seemed a bit sketch in some points & the whole story seemed oldly SUPER-HEROish... what with Quicksilver, Sabra & storm buzzing around...

so much for no-more-spandex...
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
04:38 / 13.09.02
Well, those characters had to be wearing their spandex, since they are characters from other comics and it isn't up to Grant to dress them. The contrast between them and Jean/Charles was obviously apparent, which is part of the point. Storm's group will soon be wearing the standard Xavier Institute gear anyway...

Surely I am not the only one who thought the "THIS IS THE VOICE OF MAGNETO!" thing was a bit hokey, right?
 
  

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